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bretttdc

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:29 am Post subject: Zenith701801-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/04/10

I know this is not the 750 list buty I neeed a little advice and that list is dead.  Not sure why they have thier own any way.

  

 I am building a 750 with a 0-200 Continental.  Any one on the list have a recomendation for a prop.  I will be tied down outside part of the year so wood is out of the question.

  

 Brett



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     1. 06:38 AM - Riveting wing skeleton  (Ryan Vechinski)

     2. 07:20 AM - Re: Riveting wing skeleton  (MacDonald Doug)

     3. 07:33 AM - Re: Riveting wing skeleton  (BobKat)

     4. 10:05 AM - Re: Riveting wing skeleton  (bryanekholm)

     5. 01:42 PM - Re: Riveting wing skeleton  (ruruny(at)aol.com (ruruny(at)aol.com))



________________________________  Message 1   _____________________________________

Time: 06:38:04 AM PST US

From: Ryan Vechinski <brothapig(at)hotmail.com (brothapig(at)hotmail.com)>

Subject: Riveting wing skeleton

I would just like some confirmation as to when to rivet the wing skeleton t

ogether.

Currently=2C I have the right wing skeleton 99% done=2C and am ready to mov

e onto the skins.  I believe I am able to rivet the skeleton together at th

is point=2C and this would be my preference=2C because I believe the rivets

hold stronger than clecos.  However=2C is there anything to watch out for 

if I did this?  Anything that would become a problem in the future while do

ing the wing skins if the skeleton is riveted together?



I have gotten by yearly "kick in the butt" to get going on my airplane agai

n.   Seems that always happens after AirVenture                            



________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________

Time: 07:20:41 AM PST US

From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)>

Subject: Re: Riveting wing skeleton



Ryan, it's been a couple of years for me but I think you are right about ri

veting your wing skeleton before heading on to the skins.- I don't remebe

r any gotchas doing it that way.

-

Doug MacDonald

CH-701 Scratch builder

99.99999% done

NW Ontario, Canada

-

Do Not Archive



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From: Ryan Vechinski <brothapig(at)hotmail.com (brothapig(at)hotmail.com)>

Subject: Zenith701801-List: Riveting wing skeleton

Received: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 8:37 AM

I would just like some confirmation as to when to rivet the wing skeleton t

ogether.

Currently, I have the right wing skeleton 99% done, and am ready to move on

to the skins.- I believe I am able to rivet the skeleton together at this

point, and this would be my preference, because I believe the rivets hold 

stronger than clecos.- However, is there anything to watch out for if I d

id this?- Anything that would become a problem in the future while doing 

the wing skins if the skeleton is riveted  together?

-

I have gotten by yearly "kick in the butt" to get going on my airplane agai

n.- Seems that always happens after AirVenture 

=0A=0A



________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________

Time: 07:33:16 AM PST US

From: "BobKat" <bobkat(at)btinet.net (bobkat(at)btinet.net)>

Subject: Re: Riveting wing skeleton



Good job, Ryan.  Just going from memory here, but I think you have to 

rivet the wing skeleton together before you lay out and mark the skins.  

Rivet the skeleton, then put on the bottom skin, then the tank or 

tanks, then the requisit wiring and pitot tube hardware with slat and 

flaperon hangers,  then lastly the  trailing edge skins, leading edge, 

then the top wing skins.   Something like that,  anyway. 

If you try to rivet the skeleton while fighting the wing skins you will 

likely have a heck of a time riveting in those small spaces.  

From: Ryan Vechinski 

Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:37 AM

Subject: Riveting wing skeleton

I would just like some confirmation as to when to rivet the wing 

skeleton together.

Currently, I have the right wing skeleton 99% done, and am ready to move 

onto the skins.  I believe I am able to rivet the skeleton together at 

this point, and this would be my preference, because I believe the 

rivets hold stronger than clecos.  However, is there anything to watch 

out for if I did this?  Anything that would become a problem in the 

future while doing the wing skins if the skeleton is riveted together?



I have gotten by yearly "kick in the butt" to get going on my airplane 

again.  Seems that always happens  after AirVenture 

________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________

Time: 10:05:28 AM PST US

Subject: Re: Riveting wing skeleton

From: "bryanekholm" <ekholmbk(at)lakedalelink.net (ekholmbk(at)lakedalelink.net)>

I just completed my right wing.  The only parts you need to worry about not attaching

permanently to the wing skeleton are the front strut attach point and

the tie down ring.  It just makes it a little easier when you are strapping on

the leading edge skin.



Bryan Ekholm



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________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________

Time: 01:42:06 PM PST US

Subject: Re: Riveting wing skeleton

From: ruruny(at)aol.com (ruruny(at)aol.com)

My fuel tanks, main and aux on each wing, had a lip where the welding was

done. It was a pain to remove and install them.

You can rivet the entire skeleton, but I left clecos in the rear channels

behind the tank and the channels that are right behind

the tank/tanks. Just made things easier.



Brian

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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:23 am Post subject: Zenith701801-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/04/10

Brett;

         Have you tried asking  Zenith? I believe that is one of the engines they recommend so they should have  a suggestion for a suitable prop.

  

 Regards,  John



CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300



Cell: 719-494-4567

Home:  303-648-3261   

  In a message dated 8/5/2010 5:29:40 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  bretttdc(at)yahoo.com writes:

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		                               I know this is not the 750 list buty I neeed a little advice and          that list is dead.  Not sure why they have thier own any way.

          

         I am building a 750 with a 0-200 Continental.  Any one on the          list have a recomendation for a prop.  I will be tied down outside          part of the year so wood is out of the question.

          

         Brett



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                1. 06:38 AM - Riveting wing skeleton  (Ryan            Vechinski)

     2. 07:20 AM - Re: Riveting wing            skeleton  (MacDonald Doug)

     3. 07:33            AM - Re: Riveting wing skeleton  (BobKat)

                4. 10:05 AM - Re: Riveting wing skeleton             (bryanekholm)

     5. 01:42 PM - Re: Riveting            wing skeleton  (ruruny(at)aol.com (ruruny(at)aol.com))



________________________________             Message 1  _____________________________________

Time:            06:38:04 AM PST US

From: Ryan Vechinski <brothapig(at)hotmail.com (brothapig(at)hotmail.com)>

Subject:            Riveting wing skeleton

I would just like            some confirmation as to when to rivet the wing skeleton            t

ogether.

Currently=2C I have the right wing skeleton 99%            done=2C and am ready to mov

e onto the skins.  I believe I am            able to rivet the skeleton together at th

is point=2C and this            would be my preference=2C because I believe the rivets

hold            stronger than clecos.  However=2C is there anything to watch out            for 

if I did this?  Anything that would become a problem in            the future while do

ing the wing skins if the skeleton is riveted            together?



I have gotten by yearly "kick in the butt" to get            going on my airplane agai

n.  Seems that always happens after            AirVenture                                                             



________________________________  Message 2             _____________________________________

Time: 07:20:41 AM PST            US

From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash(at)yahoo.com (dougsnash(at)yahoo.com)>

Subject:            Re: Riveting wing skeleton



Ryan, it's been a            couple of years for me but I think you are right about ri

veting            your wing skeleton before heading on to the skins.- I don't            remebe

r any gotchas doing it that way.

-

Doug            MacDonald

CH-701 Scratch builder

99.99999% done

NW Ontario,            Canada

-

Do Not Archive



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From: Ryan Vechinski <brothapig(at)hotmail.com (brothapig(at)hotmail.com)>

Subject:            Riveting wing skeleton

Received: Wednesday,            August 4, 2010, 8:37 AM

I would just like some confirmation            as to when to rivet the wing skeleton t

ogether.

Currently, I            have the right wing skeleton 99% done, and am ready to move on

to            the skins.- I believe I am able to rivet the skeleton together at            this

point, and this would be my preference, because I believe the            rivets hold 

stronger than clecos.- However, is there anything to            watch out for if I d

id this?- Anything that would become a problem            in the future while doing 

the wing skins if the skeleton is            riveted together?

-

I have gotten by yearly "kick in the butt"            to get going on my airplane agai

n.- Seems that always happens            after AirVenture            

=0A=0A



________________________________  Message            3  _____________________________________

Time:            07:33:16 AM PST US

From: "BobKat" <bobkat(at)btinet.net (bobkat(at)btinet.net)>

Subject:            Re: Riveting wing skeleton



Good job,            Ryan.  Just going from memory here, but I think you have to            

rivet the wing skeleton together before you lay out and mark the            skins.  

Rivet the skeleton, then put on the bottom skin, then            the tank or 

tanks, then the requisit wiring and pitot tube            hardware with slat and 

flaperon hangers,  then lastly            the  trailing edge skins, leading edge, 

then the top wing            skins.   Something like that, anyway. 

If you try to            rivet the skeleton while fighting the wing skins you will 

likely            have a heck of a time riveting in those small spaces.             

From: Ryan Vechinski 

Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010            8:37 AM

Subject: Riveting wing            skeleton

I would just like some confirmation as to when to            rivet the wing 

skeleton together.

Currently, I have the right            wing skeleton 99% done, and am ready to move 

onto the skins.             I believe I am able to rivet the skeleton together at 

this point,            and this would be my preference, because I believe the 

rivets hold            stronger than clecos.  However, is there anything to watch            

out for if I did this?  Anything that would become a problem            in the 

future while doing the wing skins if the skeleton is            riveted together?



I have gotten by yearly "kick in the butt" to            get going on my airplane 

again.  Seems that always happens            after AirVenture 

________________________________             Message 4  _____________________________________

Time:            10:05:28 AM PST US

Subject: Re: Riveting wing            skeleton

From: "bryanekholm" <ekholmbk(at)lakedalelink.net (ekholmbk(at)lakedalelink.net)>

I            just completed my right wing.  The only parts you need to worry            about not attaching

permanently to the wing skeleton are the front            strut attach point and

the tie down ring.  It just makes it a            little easier when you are strapping on

the leading edge            skin.



Bryan Ekholm



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Bryan            Ekholm

Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307496#307496

________________________________             Message 5  _____________________________________

Time:            01:42:06 PM PST US

Subject: Re: Riveting wing            skeleton

From: ruruny(at)aol.com (ruruny(at)aol.com)

My fuel            tanks, main and aux on each wing, had a lip where the welding            was

done. It was a pain to remove and install them.

You can            rivet the entire skeleton, but I left clecos in the rear            channels

behind the tank and the channels that are right            behind

the tank/tanks. Just made things easier.



Brian

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