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 Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:49 am Post subject: Kolb-List... "gotime 242... |
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Congratulations on owning a KOLB.
Say, I deal with Aircraft Spruce and they are great people but when it comes to fabric, covering, etc I deal with Jim and Dondi Miller at Aircraft Technical Support. The reason is that Jim and Dondi are available 6 days a week and encourage folk with questions to call them. They are very professional but very personable and take the time with customers. 1-877-877-3334. They sell the poly-stits materials at very reasonable rates. I think they are close to AS's prices if not better.
Personally, I would take the areas needing patches down to the fabric using MEK. Be careful about "sanding" The top coats (poly-spray and poly-paints) do take sanding but the poly-brush does not. It is easy to sand into the fabric at some point. If your coating has a good base, a good dose of poly-brush and 3 cross coats of poly-spray, I would not remove it all over the plane. A lot depends on the finish coat... poly-tone or poly-urethane. You can tell poly-tone from poly-urethane... ploy-tone is softer and can be removed with MEK. Poly urethane is glossy and does not respond to MEK as readily. Ask Jim or Doni but I am pretty sure that on poly-tone you could probably prep for repainting by washing and then wiping with the "cleaner" (C-2200) followed by wiping with a "tach" cloth. Depending on the age of the coatings, there is also a rejuvenator (RJ-1200) that can be used to rejuvenate the paint.
Best advice is call Jim and Dondi. They are glad to answer questions and can send you a booklet telling about all you need to know. I have worked with poly-stats on my Mark III but also on patching my Aeronca Champ. Great stuff.
As always... this is just my opinion. Everyone needs to do what they think best.
Bob
Time: 11:33:01 AM PST US
Subject: Complete re-paint of Kolb.
From: "gotime242" <dylanshine(at)gmail.com>
Hello again...
My kolb is currently in need of some patches and paint in quite a few areas. Its
to the point where it would be nice to just repaint the entire airplane.
Its done with the poly process. I just ordered a patch kit from ac spruce (will
be my first time working with fabric...hope it goes well).
What would be the best way about repainting the entire airplane? Is it necessary
to completely remove the paint down to the fabric? Or would just a light sanding
do the trick? The fabric itself (other than the holes, bad touch ups and
lots of hanger rash lol)....is in good shape. I just want it to be pretty again.
Thanks!
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rickofudall
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: Kolb-List... "gotime 242... |
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Bob, I agree with what you say although I've never done any business with Jim and Dondi. Many people on this list recommend them, too. Here in Kansas we have a Polyfiber distributor at Mound Ridge. I can drive there and get my supplies, ask questions and save the shipping costs. That being said I've not seen anyone remind this fellow (it would be nice to know your name, rather than a computer moniker, by the way) that the very first step should be to test the fabric to see if it is worthy of the effort of doing anything with it. If it won't pass the test described in Appendix F of the Polyfiber manual the fabric is junk and should be replaced. The test is bone simple. The manual calls it the "Hang it on the Wall Test".
Quoting the manual "If the fabric breaks, it fails. Time to re-cover.
It would be a shame to go to all the trouble to repaint, rejuvenate or do anything to junk fabric. Do the test first.
Rick Girard
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org (bgreen(at)bimi.org)> wrote:
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Congratulations on owning a KOLB.
Say, I deal with Aircraft Spruce and they are great people but when it comes to fabric, covering, etc I deal with Jim and Dondi Miller at Aircraft Technical Support. The reason is that Jim and Dondi are available 6 days a week and encourage folk with questions to call them. They are very professional but very personable and take the time with customers. 1-877-877-3334. They sell the poly-stits materials at very reasonable rates. I think they are close to AS's prices if not better.
Personally, I would take the areas needing patches down to the fabric using MEK. Be careful about "sanding" The top coats (poly-spray and poly-paints) do take sanding but the poly-brush does not. It is easy to sand into the fabric at some point. If your coating has a good base, a good dose of poly-brush and 3 cross coats of poly-spray, I would not remove it all over the plane. A lot depends on the finish coat... poly-tone or poly-urethane. You can tell poly-tone from poly-urethane... ploy-tone is softer and can be removed with MEK. Poly urethane is glossy and does not respond to MEK as readily. Ask Jim or Doni but I am pretty sure that on poly-tone you could probably prep for repainting by washing and then wiping with the "cleaner" (C-2200) followed by wiping with a "tach" cloth. Depending on the age of the coatings, there is also a rejuvenator (RJ-1200) that can be used to rejuvenate the paint.
Best advice is call Jim and Dondi. They are glad to answer questions and can send you a booklet telling about all you need to know. I have worked with poly-stats on my Mark III but also on patching my Aeronca Champ. Great stuff.
As always... this is just my opinion. Everyone needs to do what they think best.
Bob
Time: 11:33:01 AM PST US
Subject: Complete re-paint of Kolb.
From: "gotime242" <dylanshine(at)gmail.com (dylanshine(at)gmail.com)>
Hello again...
My kolb is currently in need of some patches and paint in quite a few areas. Its
to the point where it would be nice to just repaint the entire airplane.
Its done with the poly process. I just ordered a patch kit from ac spruce (will
be my first time working with fabric...hope it goes well).
What would be the best way about repainting the entire airplane? Is it necessary
to completely remove the paint down to the fabric? Or would just a light sanding
do the trick? The fabric itself (other than the holes, bad touch ups and
lots of hanger rash lol)....is in good shape. I just want it to be pretty again.
Thanks!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307949#307949
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