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rickofudall
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 Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:27 pm Post subject: Do I follow the 100 hr or Annual Condition Inspection times |
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Roger, you fail to address those who use their aircraft for training or hire. Then the 100 hr. inspection is due at 100 hrs and it doesn't matter if it's two weeks, two months, or a year. The flying club where I got my private ticket had a couple of 172's that were the student's favorites. On average they had a 100 hour inspection every month.
Rick Girard
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On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Roger Lee <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com (ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
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Hi All,
Many have ask and many more are confused about the time tables for inspections. Do you follow the 100 hr. time table set by the engine and aircraft Mfg or do I follow the FAA and Mfg Annual condition Inspection time table?
The simple answer is both and neither. You may say not so fast here pal, but here is the straight scoop from all authoritative entities.
First the FAA doesn't care how often the Annual is rest so long as it is addressed and done. Flight Design and Rotax have both 100 hr. and Annual inspections. They don't care so long as they are done and addressed and both the annual and the 100 can be done at any time and the time table for each can be reset.
So what does this mean for me and you? If you only fly 50 hours a year then you will be doing the Annual Condition Inspection most of the time. An example is: you have 50 hours on the plane in one year and the Annual is due. So the Annual and 100 hr inspection is the same. You do the Annual and sign off in the log that both have been addressed. Your next Annual is 12 months from then and the next 100 hr. is at 150 hrs. If the Annual comes around again at let's say 110 hrs then you will do the annual and also address the 100 hr inspection. Now the Annual is again in 12 months and the 100 hr. is due at 210 hrs. and so on. So if you are a low time pilot (less than 100 hrs a year) then you will do more Annual condition time table inspections.
What if you are a 100+ hr a year pilot. Let's say you fly 175 hrs or 225 hrs a a year. Then you will be doing more 100 hr time table inspections and addressing and resetting the Annual time table. So lets say your first year you put on 100 hrs. before the annual was due. Now you do the 100 hr. inspection and reset the Annual which then would come due in 12 months from that date. Now you put on another 100 hr. before the annual is due again. You will do the 100 hr. inspection and reset the annual again for 12 months down the line.
This type of schedule give pilots some flexibility for inspection times. You must make sure you write in the logbook that you have done both or you may be doing two inspections separate from each other.
I know it is clear as mud, but that's it in a nut shell.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Do I follow the 100 hr or Annual Condition Inspection t |
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Hi Rick,
Your right, I didn't get into all the other regs that apply to commercial use, just the recreational pilot and a lot aimed at SLSA.
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Thom Riddle
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:30 am Post subject: Re: Do I follow the 100 hr or Annual Condition Inspection t |
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Roger,
Since you are dotting the I's and crossing the T's you should make the distinction between the terms Annual Inspection and Condition Inspection. Using the correct words is important to the FAA guys who make their living by looking for arcane semantic infractions, and insurance adjusters looking for justifications not to pay claims.
The Inspection for an experimental aircraft (most of the readers here) that occurs within the last 12 months to be legal, is called a Condition Inspection and the sign off must be worded that way, along with "safe operation" in the appropriate place.
The similarly timed inspection for type certificated aircraft is called an Annual Inspection and must be signed off that way including the phrase "airworthy condition" in the appropriate place.
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rickofudall
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: Do I follow the 100 hr or Annual Condition Inspection times |
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All too true, Thom. Good call.
Rick Girard
LSARM 3178721
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com (riddletr(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
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Roger,
Since you are dotting the I's and crossing the T's you should make the distinction between the terms Annual Inspection and Condition Inspection. Using the correct words is important to the FAA guys who make their living by looking for arcane semantic infractions, and insurance adjusters looking for justifications not to pay claims.
The Inspection for an experimental aircraft (most of the readers here) that occurs within the last 12 months to be legal, is called a Condition Inspection and the sign off must be worded that way, along with "safe operation" in the appropriate place.
The similarly timed inspection for type certificated aircraft is called an Annual Inspection and must be signed off that way including the phrase "airworthy condition" in the appropriate place.
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Thom Riddle
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Do I follow the 100 hr or Annual Condition Inspection t |
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Roger,
We are not tough, just careful readers  . No harm, no foul, but since you started this hair splitting thread, I thought I might join in and split the hair splits a bit finer, so to speak.
It is all done for our mutual benefit and/or amusement. Those who don't care to/for split hairs can choose to ignore it.
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