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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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 Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: problem reply |
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Thanks to all for their input. Perhaps it's Dee's experiences I'm
thinking of. Basically, contact them to get the information they think
you should have.
The reason I want to get feed back from the FAA early in the process is
that I am planning on building a one off aircraft using proven wings and
tail with a fuselage of my design. I'd like to find out what is
required to convince whoever does the inspection that it is airworthy.
If adhering to industry standards is enough of if I need an FEA of every
joint. I'd hate to get to the inspection and find out I had to start
over from scratch.
Any thoughts on whether it would be better to work with a DAR or an FAA
inspector?
Thanks again to everyone for their input.
do not archive
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
On 08/19/2010 08:40 AM, DeWitt Whittington wrote:
[quote] Bruce and all,
More than once I've heard reps from our local FSDO urge local builders
to contact their office before starting a project. I don't think
there is any regulatory requirement, just that they have found when
the project is finished some builders are not aware of the proper
documentation, records and procedures they should have followed. They
really do want to help. We have a particularly friendly FSDO office to
homebuilders here in Richmond.
Dee
At 06:34 AM 8/19/2010, you wrote:
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>
> Never hear of that one. There used to be a requirement for an FAA
> preclose inspection for the wing and HStab, but that's handled by the
> EAA technical counselor program now.
>
> No, there is no requirement to notify the FAA of anything except your
> final inspection.
>
> The FAA has a special Advisory Circular about this topic. A call to your
> local FSDO office will result in an information bundle of AC's and
> forms.
>
> Bruce
> www.Glasair.org <http://www.glasair.org/>
>
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Kellym
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: problem reply |
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In this case you do need buy in from the FAA upfront. Using parts of a
certified plane complicates approval, as you will have to show that 51%
of the plane is from non-certified sources that you assembled. All of
the wing build tasks and tail build tasks will be subtracted from the
overall percentage. So you need the FAA to agree what you propose will
meet the homebuilt requirement of 51%.
On 8/19/2010 8:25 PM, rayj wrote:
[quote]
Thanks to all for their input. Perhaps it's Dee's experiences I'm
thinking of. Basically, contact them to get the information they
think you should have.
The reason I want to get feed back from the FAA early in the process
is that I am planning on building a one off aircraft using proven
wings and tail with a fuselage of my design. I'd like to find out
what is required to convince whoever does the inspection that it is
airworthy. If adhering to industry standards is enough of if I need
an FEA of every joint. I'd hate to get to the inspection and find
out I had to start over from scratch.
Any thoughts on whether it would be better to work with a DAR or an
FAA inspector?
Thanks again to everyone for their input.
do not archive
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
On 08/19/2010 08:40 AM, DeWitt Whittington wrote:
> Bruce and all,
>
> More than once I've heard reps from our local FSDO urge local
> builders to contact their office before starting a project. I don't
> think there is any regulatory requirement, just that they have found
> when the project is finished some builders are not aware of the
> proper documentation, records and procedures they should have
> followed. They really do want to help. We have a particularly
> friendly FSDO office to homebuilders here in Richmond.
>
> Dee
>
> At 06:34 AM 8/19/2010, you wrote:
>>
>> <bgray(at)glasair.org>
>>
>> Never hear of that one. There used to be a requirement for an FAA
>> preclose inspection for the wing and HStab, but that's handled by the
>> EAA technical counselor program now.
>>
>> No, there is no requirement to notify the FAA of anything except your
>> final inspection.
>>
>> The FAA has a special Advisory Circular about this topic. A call to
>> your
>> local FSDO office will result in an information bundle of AC's and
>> forms.
>>
>> Bruce
>> www.Glasair.org <http://www.glasair.org/>
>>
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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: problem reply |
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The wings and tail are from experimental aircraft and will be built by
me. Still, I think it would be a good idea to start talking to the FAA
early.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
On 08/19/2010 11:20 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
[quote]
<kellym(at)aviating.com>
In this case you do need buy in from the FAA upfront. Using parts of
a certified plane complicates approval, as you will have to show that
51% of the plane is from non-certified sources that you assembled. All
of the wing build tasks and tail build tasks will be subtracted from
the overall percentage. So you need the FAA to agree what you propose
will meet the homebuilt requirement of 51%.
On 8/19/2010 8:25 PM, rayj wrote:
>
> Thanks to all for their input. Perhaps it's Dee's experiences I'm
> thinking of. Basically, contact them to get the information they
> think you should have.
>
> The reason I want to get feed back from the FAA early in the process
> is that I am planning on building a one off aircraft using proven
> wings and tail with a fuselage of my design. I'd like to find out
> what is required to convince whoever does the inspection that it is
> airworthy. If adhering to industry standards is enough of if I need
> an FEA of every joint. I'd hate to get to the inspection and find
> out I had to start over from scratch.
>
> Any thoughts on whether it would be better to work with a DAR or an
> FAA inspector?
>
> Thanks again to everyone for their input.
>
> do not archive
>
> Raymond Julian
> Kettle River, MN
> On 08/19/2010 08:40 AM, DeWitt Whittington wrote:
>> Bruce and all,
>>
>> More than once I've heard reps from our local FSDO urge local
>> builders to contact their office before starting a project. I don't
>> think there is any regulatory requirement, just that they have found
>> when the project is finished some builders are not aware of the
>> proper documentation, records and procedures they should have
>> followed. They really do want to help. We have a particularly
>> friendly FSDO office to homebuilders here in Richmond.
>>
>> Dee
>>
>> At 06:34 AM 8/19/2010, you wrote:
>>>
>>> <bgray(at)glasair.org>
>>>
>>> Never hear of that one. There used to be a requirement for an FAA
>>> preclose inspection for the wing and HStab, but that's handled by the
>>> EAA technical counselor program now.
>>>
>>> No, there is no requirement to notify the FAA of anything except your
>>> final inspection.
>>>
>>> The FAA has a special Advisory Circular about this topic. A call to
>>> your
>>> local FSDO office will result in an information bundle of AC's and
>>> forms.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> www.Glasair.org <http://www.glasair.org/>
>>>
>>> --
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