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rbutterfield(at)mebtel.ne
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: Enco rivet gun on sale

A shipment came in today from Enco Tools, and the flyer in the box 

mentioned a pneumatic riveter on sale:

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=801-1250&PMPXNO=950023&PARTPG=INLMK3

(or http://tinyurl.com/z3nlh )

Click on  the master catalog page for a picture (regular price $4.



I have _not_ seen or used this item, so cannot make any claims as to 

whether, or how well, it works.

Regards,

RonB

randy(at)shadycreekoutlaw
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: Enco rivet gun on sale

Has anyone bought a similar tool and tried grinding the concave on the tip 

for the Avex countersunk rivets?  To me that seems like it might be a bit 

difficult to get right...



Randy

N344RB





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frank.hinde(at)hp.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject: Enco rivet gun on sale

Really need a lther and a ball end mill to do it right ..>At least that

was the way I did it...Or simply send your riet tip to ZAC who will

concave them for you...I wold get two sets done, spares are always

needed.



Frank 



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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: Enco rivet gun on sale

I don't know that I got it exactly right, but close enough for me.  I have 

ground four of them for different rivet pullers. I just heated up the nose piece 

to a cherry red and let it cool.  Then it can be ground with any number of 

tools.  I have used a Dremel with both round cutting heads and round grinding 

heads.  I think the metal ones give a smoother result.



Jay in Dallas -  601XL half done with second wing.



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n4546v(at)mindspring.com
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:16 pm Post subject: Enco rivet gun on sale

For a short article on the easy way to form puller heads using Dremel

tool, go to the archives for a short article I offered.  It is message

#11121  or use the search word: "gottem" and it is the only message that

will come up.

Regards,

Randy L. Thwing, 701 plans



Subject: RE: Enco rivet gun on sale

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 Really need a lther and a ball end mill to do it right ..>At least that

 was the way I did it...Or simply send your riet tip to ZAC who will

 concave them for you...I wold get two sets done, spares are always

 needed.



 Frank

Tim Juhl

Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Enco rivet gun on sale

Zenith will grind your nosepieces for $8 apiece.

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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: Enco rivet gun on sale

I have taken to making my own nose pieces for riveters.



I bought the set from ZAC and used it for a while.  The problems I 

have had with their design included poor looking finished rivets (the 

A5 nose piece left gouges on one side of the rivet head) and a 

tendency to set the rivets at an angle which I always wanted to drill 

out and replace.



My latest set of nose pieces is a lot easier to use.  I have a much 

wider nose on each one so it is easy to see when it is parallel 

(perpendicular?) to the work piece so the rivet is set straight.



I make my nose pieces from round stock on a metal lathe.  The basic 

cup shape is cut with a round nose milling cutter mounted in the tail 

stock.  After determining the correct cup depth with a few sample 

rivet tests I round the edges on the front of the nose piece and 

polish it all up with a dremel tool and rubberized abrasive thingies.



I hope this helps someone.



Paul

XL wings.

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		  Zenith will grind your nosepieces for $8 apiece.

Larry Portouw

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 17
Location: Sierra Vista/Ft. Huachuca, AZ

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Enco rivet gun on sale

I just bought a pneumatic gun on ebay and send the nose pieces off to ZAC. What I got back pulls better rivets than the factory supplied hand riveter. My recomendation is to send 'em off to ZAC.



Larry Portouw

H. Stab 601XL Kit

Atlanta, GA

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Ron Lendon

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 685
Location: Clinton Twp., MI

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Enco rivet gun on sale

To modify the noses pieces: 

3/8 Drill motor, Bench Vice, Die Grinder, Acorn shaped carbide bit.



Make sure you have centered the nose piece in the chuck by spining it. Put some color on the nose piece before begining the grinding. It lets you see better where the tool bit touches. 



Start the drill motor and lock it on, start the die grinder and touch off in the center. Use a light touch and stop to see if it is really centered. If OK continue to shape untill it is about right, then test it.  Once the tests prove good, use sandpaper and red scotchbrite to polish out the tool marks.



It really is easy and if you go to deep just grind it flat and start over.  Using the carbide burr no heat is required.

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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: Enco rivet gun on sale

I've found if you go too deep you can fix it by taking a little bit 

off the flat part of the nose piece with a normal file.   You can 

test the result by setting a rivet and cutting across it to see if 

the internal layer is flat to the surface of the piece being riveted.



Paul

XL wings



At 08:08 PM 4/26/2006, you wrote:

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		  It really is easy and if you go to deep just grind it flat and start 

over.  Using the carbide burr no heat is required.

randy(at)shadycreekoutlaw
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject: Enco rivet gun on sale

Since I didn't already have a pneumatic rivet gun, and deciding about 1/2 

way through building my HS that I would have one before I started my wings, 

I ordered one of these Enco riveters today...  I believe I'll try the 

methods described here to grind my own tips as well...  My cousin who is 

building a 601HD grinds his own, I'll get him to help me out on the first 

set...



Thanks for all the input and help!



Randy

N344RB

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