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WurlyBird

Joined: 16 May 2008
Posts: 207
Location: North Pole, Alaska

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:59 am Post subject: Smooth cowl on Model 3

I remember reading a few things but several list searches have turned up nada.  I would like to fit my Model 3 with a smooth cowl and I am trying to figure out the best method.  



I have heard that a smooth cowl for a Model 4 can be made to fit.  I am still waiting to hear back from the McBs as to whether these are still available or not.



I have gotten with Brett from Airdale and he has a really nice looking cowl for an Avid Mk 4 that he says should fit with little work.  I am just not sure as to the fit and overall dimensions.



So has anyone had any experience with either of these approaches?  Any other ideas come to mind?  I should also note that the smooth cowl would be the cherry on top if I go ahead and switch to an HKS engine, which will have a slightly higher thrust line then a 582.

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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the 582 swapping for HKS 700E and Avid Cowl.

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:40 am Post subject: Smooth cowl on Model 3

James-

Granted that mine is a model IV, but I used a Skyfox cowl (an  

Australian knock-off of a Kitfox) that I bought from my Jabiru dealer  

in Tennessee, Pete Krotje....Jabiru USA. I don't know if they are  

still available, but they fit with a bit of work (the area that meets  

up with the windshield is the biggest problem). Also, Dave Jalanti at  

Jabiru Power Solutions.com ((www.jabirups.com)) was the guy who first  

did this cowl adaptation, and wrote an article (and has a DVD  

covering that work) in Kitplanes Magazine back in 2001, I think if was.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying...1054 hrs (since 3-27-2006)



On Sep 23, 2010, at 8:59 AM, WurlyBird wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <james.t.trizzino(at)us.army.mil>



 I remember reading a few things but several list searches have  

 turned up nada.  I would like to fit my Model 3 with a smooth cowl  

 and I am trying to figure out the best method.



 I have heard that a smooth cowl for a Model 4 can be made to fit.   

 I am still waiting to hear back from the McBs as to whether these  

 are still available or not.



 I have gotten with Brett from Airdale and he has a really nice  

 looking cowl for an Avid Mk 4 that he says should fit with little  

 work.  I am just not sure as to the fit and overall dimensions.



 So has anyone had any experience with either of these approaches?   

 Any other ideas come to mind?  I should also note that the smooth  

 cowl would be the cherry on top if I go ahead and switch to an HKS  

 engine, which will have a slightly higher thrust line then a 582.



 --------

 James

 Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70&quot; IVO 2 blade GA

 50 hrs on the Fox in between deployments,

       now she lies in wait





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313472#313472

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

WurlyBird

Joined: 16 May 2008
Posts: 207
Location: North Pole, Alaska

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Smooth cowl on Model 3

Hey Lynn, do you have some pictures of your plane, specifically the front, that you could either post or email me?  Thanks.  Let me know if you want my email address.

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James
Kitfox 3 / 582 / 70" IVO 2 blade GA
50 hrs on the 582 swapping for HKS 700E and Avid Cowl.

Lynn Matteson

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: Smooth cowl on Model 3

James-



I just sent two pics to your "(at) us.army.mil" address. I can post here  

if they don't show up soon. The file was about 1.5 Meg, so I didn't  

want to post here if not necessary. I also have a few pics of the  

cowl-to-windshield area, that I took during the "surgery", which  

requires the most work needed to make it fit a non-Skyfox application.



Lynn Matteson

Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

Jabiru 2200, #2062

Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

Electroair direct-fire ignition system

Rotec TBI-40 injection

Status: flying...1054 hrs (since 3-27-2006)



On Sep 23, 2010, at 10:41 AM, WurlyBird wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <james.t.trizzino(at)us.army.mil>



 Hey Lynn, do you have some pictures of your plane, specifically the  

 front, that you could either post or email me?  Thanks.  Let me  

 know if you want my email address.



 --------

 James

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Lynn
Kitfox IV-Jabiru 2200
N369LM

thesupe(at)hotmail.com
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:56 pm Post subject: Smooth cowl on Model 3

I picked up an Avid MK IV cowl for my Kitfox 4.  It is a lot lower over the prop than the round cowl and has to be easyier to see over on landing.  It will need to be added to in order to meet the windshield and back to the doors, but I've done some fiberglass work before, ( built a complete cowl)  so I'm not afraid of modifieing it.  Not sure if the Jabiru cowl would do what you need with the 582 or not.  The MK IV cowl was designed for the 582 to begin with.   Firewall width on my MK IV and the Kitfox 4 are the same, so all of that should work.  Kitfox's smooth cowl for the Kitfox 4 would be the least work I'm thinking, but at times I've seen MK IV cowl for $200-$250 used.  I paid Brett $225 for mine and it has the large opening below the prop for the radiator to mount there with the 912 engine.  Take care,  Jim Chuk  Avids, Kitfox 4 (building, all fabric painted and set to the side)  Mn

 

 > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net

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		   Subject: Re: Re: Smooth cowl on Model 3

 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:31:03 -0400

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

 

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>

 

 James-

 

 I just sent two pics to your "(at) us.army.mil" address. I can post here 

 if they don't show up soon. The file was about 1.5 Meg, so I didn't 

 want to post here if not necessary. I also have a few pics of the 

 cowl-to-windshield area, that I took during the "surgery", which 

 requires the most work needed to make it fit a non-Skyfox application.

 

 Lynn Matteson

 Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger

 Jabiru 2200, #2062

 Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)

 Electroair direct-fire ignition system

 Rotec TBI-40 injection

 Status: flying...1054 hrs (since 3-27-2006)

 

 On Sep 23, 2010, at 10:41 AM, WurlyBird wrote:

 

 > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "WurlyBird" 

 > <james.t.trizzino(at)us.army.mil>

 >

 > Hey Lynn, do you have some pictures of your plane, specifically the 

 > front, that you could either post or email me? Thanks. Let me 

 > know if you want my email address.

 >

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