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Thumper

Joined: 24 Aug 2008
Posts: 46
Location: Oakland TN.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: Video of flying the Mississippi

This is from a flight last weekend to Arkansas then back to Tennessee. I flew some along the Mississippi on the way home.  Hope this video will load, I haven't loaded a video to this site before.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOejtqgnPg0

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Oakland TN
2000 Aeroprakt A20 Vista Cruiser, 2016 A22LS Aeroprakt
Previously Kolb Mark IIIC, 94 Firestar, 84 Ultrastar.
1200+hours since 1/1/2009

russkinne(at)mac.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject: Video of flying the Mississippi

Dennis

That was one great flight! -- and I'm jealous. What a fantastic  

flying experience!

But it was also most illegal, and you could get written up for it.  

That would spoil your whole day/week/month/year.

You don't need that.

You may know that the FAR's say no closer than 500' to any "person,  

vehicle (includes tugs, barges, bikes, beach buggies) or structure  

(includes fences, phone poles, doghouses, etc) on the surface  

(includes water, land, and that halfway in-between stuff)

And you never know where some clod with binoculars may be.

Good luck

Russ K



On Sep 29, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Thumper wrote:



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 This is from a flight last weekend to Arkansas then back to  

 Tennessee. I flew some along the Mississippi on the way home.  Hope  

 this video will load, I haven't loaded a video to this site before.



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOejtqgnPg0



 --------

 Dennis Long

 Oakland TN

 Kolb Firestar Owner





 Read this topic online here:



 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314176#314176

slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: Video of flying the Mississippi

Russ, I could see that he was at least 501' away.

BB

On 29, Sep 2010, at 8:01 PM, russ kinne wrote:

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 Dennis

 That was one great flight! -- and I'm jealous. What a fantastic flying experience!

 But it was also most illegal, and you could get written up for it. That would spoil your whole day/week/month/year.

 You don't need that.

 You may know that the FAR's say no closer than 500' to any "person, vehicle (includes tugs, barges, bikes, beach buggies) or structure (includes fences, phone poles, doghouses, etc) on the surface (includes water, land, and that halfway in-between stuff)

 And you never know where some clod with binoculars may be.

 Good luck

 Russ K

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russkinne(at)mac.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:53 pm Post subject: Video of flying the Mississippi

My eyeballs read the same way whenever I'm flying!

But I have been writ up. And survived. barely.

RK



On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:29 PM, robert bean wrote:



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 Russ, I could see that he was at least 501' away.

 BB



 On 29, Sep 2010, at 8:01 PM, russ kinne wrote:



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> Dennis

> That was one great flight! -- and I'm jealous. What a fantastic  

> flying experience!

> But it was also most illegal, and you could get written up for it.  

> That would spoil your whole day/week/month/year.

> You don't need that.

> You may know that the FAR's say no closer than 500' to any  

> "person, vehicle (includes tugs, barges, bikes, beach buggies) or  

> structure (includes fences, phone poles, doghouses, etc) on the  

> surface (includes water, land, and that halfway in-between stuff)

> And you never know where some clod with binoculars may be.

> Good luck

> Russ K

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> On Sep 29, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Thumper wrote:

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>> This is from a flight last weekend to Arkansas then back to  

>> Tennessee. I flew some along the Mississippi on the way home.   

>> Hope this video will load, I haven't loaded a video to this site  

>> before.

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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOejtqgnPg0

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>> Oakland TN

>> Kolb Firestar Owner

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>> Read this topic online here:

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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314176#314176

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Richard Pike

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 1671
Location: Blountville, Tennessee

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Video of flying the Mississippi

[quote="russkinne(at)mac.com"]Dennis

That was one great flight! -- and I'm jealous. What a fantastic  

flying experience!

But it was also most illegal, and you could get written up for it.  

That would spoil your whole day/week/month/year.

You don't need that.

You may know that the FAR's say no closer than 500' to any "person,  

vehicle (includes tugs, barges, bikes, beach buggies) or structure  

(includes fences, phone poles, doghouses, etc) on the surface  

(includes water, land, and that halfway in-between stuff)

And you never know where some clod with binoculars may be.

Good luck

Russ K



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Brings to mind a story from years back - Being a retired controller, you collect a lot of those.



My trainer/supervisor when I first got to TRI  (he's dead now) told the story on himself of vectoring a Southern DC-9 for a left turn into final not realizing that the west sector controller was also vectoring one for a right turn in, and they ended up just about parallel holding hands, and the dialog as it was told to me went something like this:



APCH: Southern 833, traffic is a Grumman at 3 o'clock and three miles, will be following you in.

SO833: Traffic in sight, and - uh- he looks a lot closer than 3 miles.

APCH: Roger, contact tower 119.5.



At this point the Sup gets somebody to take East Radar and goes up to the tower to get the Ground Controller out for a break. Consequently, he is at the right place at the right time a few minutes later when Southern 833 makes the following inquiry...



SO833: Ground, SO833, got a question.

GC: SO833, go ahead.

SO833: How far away is that airplane at the end gate?

GC: 3 miles.

SO833: That's what I suspected...



Richard Pike

MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)

Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1047
Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:07 am Post subject: Video of flying the Mississippi

Actually it's "person, vessel, or structure on the surface"... not that it matters.  At that height binoculars wouldn't even be necessary.



 In today's paranoid society people seem to have 911 on speed dial on their cellphones, and cellphone cameras in case they missed the N-number.  And there has been a lot of discussion recently,  I forget whether it was on this list or elsewhere, about self incriminating flying videos on youtube leading to FAA enforcement action.



 But in an ultralight there's no 500' rule; it would be completely legal... I love my UltraStar!



 -Dana



 At 08:01 PM 9/29/2010, russ kinne wrote:

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 Dennis

 That was one great flight! -- and I'm jealous. What a fantastic  

 flying experience!

 But it was also most illegal, and you could get written up for it.  

 That would spoil your whole day/week/month/year.

 You don't need that.

 You may know that the FAR's say no closer than 500' to any "person,  

 vehicle (includes tugs, barges, bikes, beach buggies) or structure  

 (includes fences, phone poles, doghouses, etc) on the surface   

 (includes water, land, and that halfway in-between stuff)

 And you never know where some clod with binoculars may be.

 Good luck

 Russ K



 On Sep 29, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Thumper wrote:



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 This is from a flight last weekend to Arkansas then back to  

 Tennessee. I flew some along the Mississippi on the way home.  Hope  

 this video will load, I haven't loaded a video to this site before.



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOejtqgnPg0



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 Oakland TN

 Kolb Firestar Owner



 



 

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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:22 pm Post subject: Video of flying the Mississippi

How far are you from Jonesboro?  I am in SE  Missouri about a hour north of Jonesboro. We they having a fly in at the  experimental strip?

 Jerry

 [quote]   This is from a flight last weekend    to Arkansas then back to  

Tennessee. I flew some along the    Mississippi on the way home.  Hope  

this video will load, I    haven't loaded a video to this site before.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOejtqgnPg0



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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:38 am Post subject: Video of flying the Mississippi

But in an ultralight there's no 500' rule; >>

 Really? There certainly is in the UK.  The `no flying over crowds  towns etc` has been waived and is now the same as for normal GA aircraft but the  proximity rule still holds for everyone

  

 Pat

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Dana

Joined: 13 Dec 2007
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Location: Connecticut, USA

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:43 am Post subject: Video of flying the Mississippi

At 07:34 AM 10/1/2010, Pat Ladd wrote:

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		  But in an ultralight there's no 500' rule; >>

 Really? There certainly is in the UK.  The `no flying over crowds towns etc` has been waived and is now the same as for normal GA aircraft but the proximity rule still holds for everyone 	


 Nope.  True ultralights here are subject solely to the two pages of Part 103 which, while it does have the prohibition of flying over towns and crowds, has no minimum altitude or proximity.  Of course, they can get you for "creating a hazard" which is sometimes seen as a rule against "impolite flying"...



 Remember, here an ultralight is not like your UK microlights which are still registered aircraft.  Here, a true UL (single seat, under 254#, etc.) has no registration, inspection, or pilot certification requirements.



 For registered aircraft, of course, the usual minimums (1000' over town, 500' away elsewhere) still apply... but a recent change exempts even N-numbered powered parachutes and weight-shift aircraft from the 500' rule.



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Thumper

Joined: 24 Aug 2008
Posts: 46
Location: Oakland TN.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Video of flying the Mississippi

It is a UL airplane here in the USA so swooping I will go.  I want to put larger tires and brakes on it so I can takeoff from some of the sandbars.  



Jerry

     Yes it was at the classic airstrip and there were 34  planes on the field with lots of flying going on.  It was one of the busiest I have been at this year.  There is a lot of interest in the Ultralights again it seems.

In November they are having a parachute fly-in but I don't have the date.  E-mail me off line at dlong1957(at)yahoo.com and You might want to be on my MUSG e-mail group to keep everyone notified of events in this area.  I might fly up your way just for the adventure, I have been thinking of flying up that way and visit Lambert's for lunch anyway.  I am always looking for Kolbs to fly with and compare planes.  I just sold my Ultrastar and bought this 90 Firestar KX.  Dennis Long

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:56 am Post subject: Video of flying the Mississippi

<< … leading to FAA enforcement action.  But in an ultralight there's no 500' rule; it would be completely legal... I love my UltraStar!  -Dana >>  

   

   

Dana, and Kolb Friends –  

   

To most of the people in the world, ALL our Kolbs are “ultralights.”  This became evident to me when I first began flying my Mark-3 in 1992.  Everywhere I’d go, people referred to my aircraft as an ultralight … even other pilots.    

   

Parked at the ramp at any given airport, other pilots would come over to inspect my Kolb, usually with a greeting like, “That’s sure a cute little ultralight!”  

   

In the pattern – I’d call on Unicom, “Light Sport Kolb niner three delta kilo, turning left base …”  Invariably, the other fellow in the pattern in his Cessna/Piper/Mooney would answer, “I’m Number two behind the ultralight.”  

   

Even at airports with control towers, after identifying myself (as above), as soon as the tower controller sights my Kolb, he’ll come back with, “Ultralight three delta kilo, cleared to land.”  Sheesh!  (In the famous words of Bugs Bunny, “What a maroon!”)  

   

So instead of fighting the system, I eventually gave in, and began referring to myself on the radio as “Ultralight niner three delta kilo.”  But when I had this conversation with John Williamson a few years ago, in his wisdom and perpetual quest for correctness, he recommended I NOT identify myself as “ultralight,” but rather continue to use the correct nomenclature, like “Experimental Kolb 93DK,” or “Light Sport 93DK.”  

   

“Do it the right way,” he told me.  I’ll always remember that.  

   

Dennis Kirby  

Mark-III, N93DK, “Magic Bike”  

Sandia Park, NM  

   

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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: Video of flying the Mississippi

Dennis K/Gang:

  

 John W also corrected me in properly identifying my  MKIII.

  

 -Initial contact with a control tower:   Experimental Kolb 101AB.

  

 -Subsequent transmissions:  Kolb  1AB.

  

 -Initial non towered airports:  Kolb  1AB.

  

 -Subsequent transmissions:  1AB.

  

 Most folks that fly experimental aircraft use:   Experimental and the tail number.  However, John W said that could be  a 65 mph FS or a 180 mph RV.  

  

 john h

 mkIII

 [quote]    So instead of fighting the system, I    eventually gave in, and began referring to myself on the radio as “Ultralight    niner three delta kilo.”  But when I had this conversation with John    Williamson a few years ago, in his wisdom and perpetual quest for correctness,    he recommended I NOT identify myself as “ultralight,” but rather continue to    use the correct nomenclature, like “Experimental Kolb 93DK,” or “Light Sport    93DK.”

      

    

“Do it the right way,” he told me.  I’ll always    remember that.   

    

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