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glastar(at)gmx.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:43 am Post subject: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

Thanks a lot Bob, exactly what I did need.



Now looking at rudder trim, anybody has the internal (system) trim and 

can tell how good it works?



Cheers Werner



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 Try iflyrv10.com



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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:52 am Post subject: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

Mine works very well. Would not fly without it. Putting one in my 8A now.

http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-10/RudderTrim.aspx

Robin

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On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Werner Schneider <glastar(at)gmx.net> wrote:

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 Thanks a lot Bob, exactly what I did need.

 Now looking at rudder trim, anybody has the internal (system) trim and can tell how good it works?

 Cheers Werner

 On 05.10.2010 13:56, Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:

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> Try iflyrv10.com

>

> Bob

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glastar(at)gmx.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:11 am Post subject: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

Thanks a lot Robin,



any idea how much deflection you use normally?



Cheers Werner



On 05.10.2010 17:49, Robin Marks wrote:

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 Mine works very well. Would not fly without it. Putting one in my 8A now.



 http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-10/RudderTrim.aspx



 Robin



 Sent from my iPad



 On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Werner Schneider<glastar(at)gmx.net>  wrote:



> 

>

> Thanks a lot Bob, exactly what I did need.

>

> Now looking at rudder trim, anybody has the internal (system) trim and can tell how good it works?

>

> Cheers Werner

>

> On 05.10.2010 13:56, Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:

>> 

>>

>> Try iflyrv10.com

>>

>> Bob

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tsts4

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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: Re: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

Another option, if you don't like the fixed wedge method or don't want to go the servo route, is a spring bias system: 



http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Rudder_Trim_System.html

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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:40 am Post subject: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

Yes... not much and sometimes it requires a little "reverse" deflection.

It all depends on how your plane is rigged (ultimately) and then of course

fuel / passenger loading and X Wind.

I rarely (if ever) see it deflected more than 30% of its maximum travel.

BTW while I consider all other cockpit trim indicators an absolute safety

requirement but having a rudder trim indicator is not a requirement

because you can easily overpower the rudder trim with foot action and you

have a built in indicator with the slip ball. Your call. The only reason I

bring it up is my painter shorted out my Ray Allen position indicator

(thanks!) and after about 160 hours of additional flight time I have not

really missed the Rudder Trim indication. Again your call.



Robin



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partner14

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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:50 am Post subject: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

Robin, first time I actually went out to your site.  Nice job, GREAT write-up... and I'm flattered that you used one of the shots as the background that I took of your plane while we were touring Hearst Castle, Morrow Bay, and Pismo with both our 10's.  Now that was fun!  Flying back to Calif in the next few days for a visit.  Hope to see you soon on a visit to Pecan.

 Don McDonald

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From: Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>

Subject: Re: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 8:49 AM

 --> RV10-List message posted by: Robin Marks <robin(at)painttheweb.com (robin(at)painttheweb.com)>

Mine works very well. Would not fly without it. Putting one in my 8A now.

http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-10/RudderTrim.aspx

Robin

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On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Werner Schneider <glastar(at)gmx.net (glastar(at)gmx.net)> wrote:

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		   --> RV10-List message posted by: Werner Schneider <glastar(at)gmx.net (glastar(at)gmx.net)>

 Thanks a lot Bob, exactly what I did need.

 Now looking at  rudder trim, anybody has the internal (system) trim and can tell how good it works?

 Cheers Werner

 On 05.10.2010 13:56, Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:

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> Try iflyrv10.com

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> Bob

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jcumins(at)jcis.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

Bob



I plan to go with the Bias spring system by

http://www.mlblueskunk.com/Rudder_Trim_System.html  I like the design and I

do not have to cut into my rudder.



John G. Cumins

40864  Emp complete Wings s/b started

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Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

I'm trying to go with Don Orrick's solution as documented here on Tim 

Olsen's site:

http://www.myrv10.com/tips/mods/RudderTrim/DonOrrick.html



Don's has a very fine flying '10 with many fine features I'd love to 

copy.  When I saw it at Oshkosh several years ago I couldn't figure out 

what the vernier knob was for but later saw this on Tim's site.



I fly a Maule right now and it has a similar setup in the sense that it 

simply applies a spring to the right rudder pedal control  using one of 

these to control the spring:

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/thandledashctrl.php



The assumption here is that only right trim is required.  Works fine on 

the Maule and is about as simple as it gets.



Don uses a pulley to turn 180 degrees at the firewall.  I mocked it up 

with the T-handle control above and looks like the cable can make the 

turn with out the pulley.  So I've installed a bracket and cable and 

will try to size and  fit a spring to see if I can make it work.  If 

not, the Skunk works control horn approach looks good too.



Bill Watson



On 10/5/2010 8:41 AM, Werner Schneider wrote:

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 Now looking at rudder trim, anybody has the internal (system) trim and 

 can tell how good it works?

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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

Yes this photo is on my phone, iPad and website. I occasionally get comments about flying over all that water but you and I know we were on the shoreline shooting west.   

   

Robin  

[img]cid:image001.jpg(at)01CB64B1.4A400650[/img]    

     

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Don McDonald

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Robin, first time I actually went out to your site.    Nice job, GREAT write-up... and I'm flattered that you used one of the   shots as the background that I took of your plane while we were touring   Hearst Castle, Morrow Bay, and Pismo with both our 10's.  Now that was   fun!  Flying back to Calif in the next few days for a visit.  Hope   to see you soon on a visit to Pecan.   

      

Don McDonald

   

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   From: Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>

   Subject: Re: 1st answered 2nd question about rudder trim

   To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)>

   Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010, 8:49 AM      

--> RV10-List message posted by: Robin Marks <robin(at)painttheweb.com>

   

   Mine works very well. Would not fly without it. Putting one in my 8A now.

   

   http://painttheweb.com/painttheweb/rv-10/RudderTrim.aspx

   

   Robin

   

   Sent from my iPad

   

   On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:41 AM, Werner Schneider <glastar(at)gmx.net>   wrote:

   

   > --> RV10-List message posted by: Werner Schneider <glastar(at)gmx.net>

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   > Thanks a lot Bob, exactly what I did need.

   >

   > Now looking at rudder trim, anybody has the internal (system) trim and   can tell how good it works?

   >

   > Cheers Werner

   >

   > On 05.10.2010 13:56, Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:

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