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trumanst(at)neitel.net
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:21 pm Post subject: Plane Power Alt.

Bob,

I bought a Plane Power alternator and want to install it on my Tri Q 200. I have the crowbar over voltage module, wired as per your recommendations. I will be replacing a ND IR atl. for various reasons. The Plane Power is also IR. Can I just hook the field wire to the same wire I have for the field wire on the old unit. Their instructions lead me to believe it to be that simple. I have a 5A circuit  breaker in the current system, and that is what they call out. Am I missing something? 

Thanks for all you do,



Kevin Boddicker

TriQ 200 N7868B  190 hrs

Luana, IA.

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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject: Plane Power Alt.

At 05:17 PM 10/5/2010, you wrote:




Bob,

I bought a Plane Power alternator and want to install it on my Tri Q 

200. I have the crowbar over voltage module, wired as per your 

recommendations. I will be replacing a ND IR atl. for various 

reasons. The Plane Power is also IR. Can I just hook the field wire 

to the same wire I have for the field wire on the old unit. Their 

instructions lead me to believe it to be that simple. I have a 5A 

circuit  breaker in the current system, and that is what they call 

out. Am I missing something?



   Last time I looked at the PP alternators, they

   had crowbar ov protection built in . . .  See:



http://plane-power.com/images/AL12_EI60%20Installation.pdf



   are you using something different that does not

   feature built in protection?

   Bob . . .

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trumanst(at)neitel.net
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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:53 am Post subject: Plane Power Alt.

Yes,

I am using the basic Z-11, with a B&C over voltage/under voltage module wired to trip a 5A breaker. In case of an OV event the  contactor in the B lead would open. Essentially I would have two OV systems. Both triggered by a 5A breaker. Is there any harm or potential harm in this? 

Thanks

Kevin

On Oct 5, 2010, at 10:17 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:



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 At 05:17 PM 10/5/2010, you wrote:

 

 

 Bob,

 I bought a Plane Power alternator and want to install it on my Tri Q 200. I have the crowbar over voltage module, wired as per your recommendations. I will be replacing a ND IR atl. for various reasons. The Plane Power is also IR. Can I just hook the field wire to the same wire I have for the field wire on the old unit. Their instructions lead me to believe it to be that simple. I have a 5A circuit  breaker in the current system, and that is what they call out. Am I missing something?

 

  Last time I looked at the PP alternators, they

  had crowbar ov protection built in . . .  See:

 

 http://plane-power.com/images/AL12_EI60%20Installation.pdf

 

  are you using something different that does not

  feature built in protection?

 

 

  Bob . . .

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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:34 am Post subject: Plane Power Alt.

At 07:50 AM 10/6/2010, you wrote:




Yes,

I am using the basic Z-11, with a B&C over voltage/under voltage 

module wired to trip a 5A breaker. In case of an OV event 

the  contactor in the B lead would open. Essentially I would have two 

OV systems.



   Why two ov systems?



Both triggered by a 5A breaker. Is there any harm or potential harm in this?



   No harm . . . but the rationale is mystifying.



   Bob . . .

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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:49 pm Post subject: Plane Power Alt.

On Oct 6, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:

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At 07:50 AM 10/6/2010, you wrote:

--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kevin Boddicker <trumanst(at)neitel.net (trumanst(at)neitel.net)>



Yes,

I am using the basic Z-11, with a B&C over voltage/under voltage module wired to trip a 5A breaker. In case of an OV event the  contactor in the B lead would open. Essentially I would have two OV systems.



  Why two ov systems?



	
	There is one built into my plane as it sits, using the module that I bought from B&C BC207-1 and AEC9034-1, 

	And there is one built into the new plane power alt. I have the module that will open the 5A breaker if there is an OV event with 	my current ND alt. The module is also used to test an OV event, and indicates low voltage.

	Are you saying I should disconnect the OVM I got from B&C and just use the OV protection built into the Plane Power alt.

	



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Both triggered by a 5A breaker. Is there any harm or potential harm in this?



  No harm . . . but the rationale is mystifying.



	
	I don't know if I should remove the OVM I got from B&C, or leave it in place. If I leave it in place, I would have two sensors.

	The OVM from B&C and what ever Plane Power uses. I will attach a pic of the OVM. Hope it gets through.

	Kevin

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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: Plane Power Alt.

Yes,

I am using the basic Z-11, with a B&C over voltage/under voltage 

module wired to trip a 5A breaker. In case of an OV event the 

contactor in the B lead would open. Essentially I would have two OV systems.



   Okay, since the PlanePower product is self contained

   and features ov protection I recommend you remove the

   previously installed system. I.e., install the PP

   alternator per manufacturer's instructions.

There is one built into my plane as it sits, using the module that I 

bought from B&C BC207-1/AEC9034-1,

And there is one built into the new plane power alt. I have the 

module that will open the 5A breaker if there is an OV event with my 

current ND alt. The module is also used to test an OV event, and 

indicates low voltage.

Are you saying I should disconnect the OVM I got from B&C and just 

use the OV protection built into the Plane Power alt.



   The BC207/AEC9034 is a simple OV/LV annunciator and has

   no protective features. It was designed for very

   small PM alternator/battery systems common to

   the 2-cycle powered ultralights. In your case,

   the OV warning would NEVER be expected to

   operate because the ov protection system would

   shut the system down so fast that you'll never

   see an OV indication . . . only an LV indication

   after the alternator is shut down.



The OVM from B&C and what ever Plane Power uses. I will attach a pic 

of the OVM. Hope it gets through.



   That's the legacy crowbar ov protection module

   produced first by AEC, then by B&C and now by

   both companies. Yes, take that unit out along

   with the associated b-lead contactor.

   Bob . . .

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trumanst(at)neitel.net
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:38 am Post subject: Plane Power Alt.

Bob,

You are a good teacher! That is exactly what I thought I should do, just looking for verification.

Again thanks a million for all you do and the help you offer to everyone. I am certain many others feel the same way.

 

Kevin Boddicker

TriQ 200 N7868B 190hrs

Luana, IA.



On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:59 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Yes,

 I am using the basic Z-11, with a B&C over voltage/under voltage module wired to trip a 5A breaker. In case of an OV event the contactor in the B lead would open. Essentially I would have two OV systems.

 

  Okay, since the PlanePower product is self contained

  and features ov protection I recommend you remove the

  previously installed system. I.e., install the PP

  alternator per manufacturer's instructions.

 

 

 There is one built into my plane as it sits, using the module that I bought from B&C BC207-1/AEC9034-1,

 And there is one built into the new plane power alt. I have the module that will open the 5A breaker if there is an OV event with my current ND alt. The module is also used to test an OV event, and indicates low voltage.

 Are you saying I should disconnect the OVM I got from B&C and just use the OV protection built into the Plane Power alt.

 

  The BC207/AEC9034 is a simple OV/LV annunciator and has

  no protective features. It was designed for very

  small PM alternator/battery systems common to

  the 2-cycle powered ultralights. In your case,

  the OV warning would NEVER be expected to

  operate because the ov protection system would

  shut the system down so fast that you'll never

  see an OV indication . . . only an LV indication

  after the alternator is shut down.

 

 The OVM from B&C and what ever Plane Power uses. I will attach a pic of the OVM. Hope it gets through.

 

  That's the legacy crowbar ov protection module

  produced first by AEC, then by B&C and now by

  both companies. Yes, take that unit out along

  with the associated b-lead contactor.

 

 

  Bob . . .

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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: Plane Power Alt.

At 07:35 AM 10/7/2010, you wrote:

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Bob,

You are a good teacher! That is exactly what I thought I should do, 

just looking for verification.

Again thanks a million for all you do and the help you offer to 

everyone. I am certain many others feel the same way.




	


   I'm pleased that you find the service useful!



   Bob . . .

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