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craig.nelson(at)heraeus.c
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 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: wheels/side load |
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hi all I built a plane in the mid 80's and used 20 in bicycle wheels. had them custom spoked to a mini bike hub with breaks and larger spokes. flew the heck out of this plane. it was a wing warp design and I had lots of x wind landings
uncle craig
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Dana
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:57 am Post subject: wheels/side load |
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I've been thinking about bicycle wheels for the biplane I'm designing.
One idea I had was to sandwich two hubs together and respoke the
wheels to get more side support.
OTOH the new Schwinn Stingray bikes (nothing like the one I had as a
kid) has a real fat rear wheel. but I doubt it'd be adequate for
anything heavier than a true ultralight.
-Dana
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"Nelson, Craig" <craig.nelson(at)heraeus.com> wrote:
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| Quote: | hi all I built a plane in the mid 80's and used 20 in bicycle wheels. had them custom spoked to a mini bike hub with breaks and larger spokes. flew the heck out of this plane. it was a wing warp design and I had lots of x wind landings
uncle craig
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mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:31 am Post subject: wheels/side load |
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> OTOH the new Schwinn Stingray bikes (nothing like the one I had as a
| Quote: | kid) has a real fat rear wheel. but I doubt it'd be adequate for
anything heavier than a true ultralight.
-Dana
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Dana, other spoke enthusiasts,
With a little bit of research, there are probably dozens of likely candidates that
would work very well for use on a plane. There are lots of scooters, mini motorcycles,
and the like, that would probably work well. Most of these will comes with some kind
of disc brake set-up. With diameter from 12" to 20+", a guy could easily come up with
a set of olden-day looking spoked wheels.
Personally, I can't really picture a Kolb wearing a set of spoked wheels. The style doesn't
make me think of "early 1900's airplanes. Maybe after seeing a Kolb with them, I'd see what
Rick is getting at.
For the relatively low touchdown speed, I don't think the side-load issue is a major
consideration. I think a 20" spoked Honda scooter front wheel would be plenty robust to
handle routine landings.
I want to see what a Kolb looks like with spoked wheels, even if it's only a mock-up.
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
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capedavis(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: wheels/side load |
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Craig, Nice looking aircraft !
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
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John Hauck
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mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:57 am Post subject: wheels/side load |
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John,
You'd be screwed!!
Mike
From: jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: wheels/side load
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 09:17:28 -0600
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What about landings that are other than routine? 
john h
mkIII
For the relatively low touchdown speed, I don't think the side-load issue is a major
consideration. I think a 20" spoked Honda scooter front wheel would be plenty robust to
handle routine landings.
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
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eagle1live(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:20 am Post subject: wheels/side load |
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For you Kids who are to young to remember, back in the early 1930's many cars had wire wheels. They were a big upgrade from some of the wooden spooked wheels.
The former Az Bald Eagle
From: John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 8:17:28 AM
Subject: Re: wheels/side load
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What about landings that are other than routine?
john h
mkIII
For the relatively low touchdown speed, I don't think the side-load issue is a major
consideration. I think a 20" spoked Honda scooter front wheel would be plenty robust to
handle routine landings.
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
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craig.nelson(at)heraeus.c
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: wheels/side load |
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John
After I sold this plane the new owner ground looped it at high speed, bent a wing tip and scrubbed the gear clean off the plane….. after all that the wheels straight and true
Uncle craig
Don’t archive
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:17 AM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: wheels/side load
Mike W/Gang:
What about landings that are other than routine?
john h
mkIII
For the relatively low touchdown speed, I don't think the side-load issue is a major
consideration. I think a 20" spoked Honda scooter front wheel would be plenty robust to
handle routine landings.
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
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