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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:43 am Post subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% et

I use it to kill weeds and bugs. Or alternatively I make     suppositories and shove them up some congressman's (oops I almost     used a bad word)

     

     Pete

     

     

     

     

     On 10/15/2010 10:06 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:     [quote]Pete:       

       

       After yo have a carboy filled with this alcohol/gas/water         mixture what do you do with the hazardous waste?

       

       

       Here is a simple process to reduce the hazmat to zero.

                

       

       Agitate the mixture while holding a propane (or hotter) flame         blowing onto the top of the mixture.  

       The alcohol/gas will burn off leaving water.

       

       

       There is also another process where you put         a submersible heater into the mixture which causes         the flammable stuff to vaporize and that vapor is them hit with         a flame.  This is a bit questionable due to cost and setup         requirements.  

       

       

       

       

       Barry

       

         On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Pete           Christensen <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)>           wrote:

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              I siphon my unwashed gasoline into the water I have             standing in the bottom of my 6.5 gallon glass carboy by             putting the outlet side of the siphon hose in the standing             water so that the gasoline swirls into the standing water.              Having marked the water level on the side of the carboy             before adding gas I am able to judge the quantity of ethanol             I have removed since the level comes up about 3/4" after the             mix settles.  I usually let it sit 1/2 hour to be safe.  I             then siphon washed gas off the top leaving about 1.25" of             gasoline on top of the water so that I don't siphon up any             water with the washed gas.  I can wash about 25-30 gallons             by just siphoning more unwashed gas into the carboy and             don't have to add any more water with each carboy fill up.               Eventually there is 4 or 5 inches of alcohol/water mix in             the bottom of of the carboy so that only 4 gallons of             unwashed gas can be added.  When that happens I siphon the             alcohol/water mix off the bottom of the tank being careful             not to siphon any gasoline.

             

             I then start over.  There is always some gas and             water/alcohol left in the carboy so that I am not wasting             any gasoline.

             

             Pete

             

             

             On 10/14/2010 6:52 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:

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               I take it you are leaving lots of time for the water to               settle out

               completely.  Are  you draining from the bottom or               siphoning?

               

               Noel

               

             	
             

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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% et

Didn't they start out as water cooler bottles?  Now the watercooler bottles are plastic.  I do have a glass one that I used to make beer in but havn't done it in quite a while.  Good thing we can get non oxiginated premium gas up here in Mn.  That's what I run through my Jabiru and Rotax.  Take care,  Jim Chuk

   Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:36:02 -0500

From: pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com

To: rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: RotaxEngines-List: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% ethanol...

 It is a large small mouth bottle used in making beer.

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On 10/15/2010 10:04 AM, Hugh McKay wrote:   	  Quote: 	
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Pete, 

Pardon my ignorance in this matter, but please describe what you refer to as "a 6.5 gallon carboy"? 

Hugh McKay 

Rotax 912 UL 

Allegro 2000 

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From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com> (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com) 

Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:04 AM 

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Subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% ethanol... 

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 I siphon my unwashed gasoline into the water I have standing in the bottom of my 6.5 gallon glass carboy by putting the outlet side of the siphon hose in the standing water so that the gasoline swirls into the standing water.  Having marked the water level on the side of the carboy before adding gas I am able to judge the quantity of ethanol I have removed since the level comes up about 3/4" after the mix settles.  I usually let it sit 1/2 hour to be safe.  I then siphon washed gas off the top leaving about 1.25" of gasoline on top of the water so that I don't siphon up any water with the washed gas.  I can wash about 25-30 gallons by just siphoning more unwashed gas into the carboy and don't have to add any more water with each carboy fill up.   Eventually there is 4 or 5 inches of alcohol/water mix in the bottom of of the carboy so that only 4 gallons of unwashed gas can be added.  When that happens I siphon the alcohol/water mix off the bottom of the tank being careful not to siphon any gasoline. 

I then start over.  There is always some gas and water/alcohol left in the carboy so that I am not wasting any gasoline. 

Pete 

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I take it you are leaving lots of time for the water to settle out 

completely.  Are  you draining from the bottom or siphoning? 

Noel

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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% et

You could run it through a still....  Alcohol boils off somewhere around 80C at sea level. Then  use the distilled alcohol, which BTW is not palatable (Darn!), as fuel for a table heater or for cleaning small parts.  The alcohol is bio degradable but I don’t know about the stuff they put in to make it unpalatable.   

   

Noel    

   

   

       

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 Sent: October 15, 2010 4:11 PM

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 Subject: Re: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% ethanol...  

  

  

   

I use it to kill weeds and bugs. Or alternatively I make suppositories and shove them up some congressman's (oops I almost used a bad word)

 

 Pete

 

 

 

 

 On 10/15/2010 10:06 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:   

Pete:     

   

    

After yo have a carboy filled with this alcohol/gas/water mixture what do you do with the hazardous waste?  

    

   

    

Here is a simple process to reduce the hazmat to zero.  

    

   

    

Agitate the mixture while holding a propane (or hotter) flame blowing onto the top of the mixture.    

    

The alcohol/gas will burn off leaving water.  

    

   

    

There is also another process where you put a submersible heater into the mixture which causes the flammable stuff to vaporize and that vapor is them hit with a flame.  This is a bit questionable due to cost and setup requirements.    

    

   

    

   

    

Barry  

    

     

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Pete Christensen <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)> wrote:  

--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Pete Christensen <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)>

 

  I siphon my unwashed gasoline into the water I have standing in the bottom of my 6.5 gallon glass carboy by putting the outlet side of the siphon hose in the standing water so that the gasoline swirls into the standing water.  Having marked the water level on the side of the carboy before adding gas I am able to judge the quantity of ethanol I have removed since the level comes up about 3/4" after the mix settles.  I usually let it sit 1/2 hour to be safe.  I then siphon washed gas off the top leaving about 1.25" of gasoline on top of the water so that I don't siphon up any water with the washed gas.  I can wash about 25-30 gallons by just siphoning more unwashed gas into the carboy and don't have to add any more water with each carboy fill up.   Eventually there is 4 or 5 inches of alcohol/water mix in the bottom of of the carboy so that only 4 gallons of unwashed gas can be added.  When that happens I siphon the alcohol/water mix off the bottom of the tank being careful not to siphon any gasoline.

 

 I then start over.  There is always some gas and water/alcohol left in the carboy so that I am not wasting any gasoline.

 

 Pete

 

 

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 I take it you are leaving lots of time for the water to settle out

 completely.  Are  you draining from the bottom or siphoning?

 

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