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 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:09 am Post subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% eth |
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Pete:
After yo have a carboy filled with this alcohol/gas/water mixture what do you do with the hazardous waste?
Here is a simple process to reduce the hazmat to zero.
Agitate the mixture while holding a propane (or hotter) flame blowing onto the top of the mixture.
The alcohol/gas will burn off leaving water.
There is also another process where you put a submersible heater into the mixture which causes the flammable stuff to vaporize and that vapor is them hit with a flame. This is a bit questionable due to cost and setup requirements.
Barry
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Pete Christensen <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)> wrote:
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I siphon my unwashed gasoline into the water I have standing in the bottom of my 6.5 gallon glass carboy by putting the outlet side of the siphon hose in the standing water so that the gasoline swirls into the standing water. Having marked the water level on the side of the carboy before adding gas I am able to judge the quantity of ethanol I have removed since the level comes up about 3/4" after the mix settles. I usually let it sit 1/2 hour to be safe. I then siphon washed gas off the top leaving about 1.25" of gasoline on top of the water so that I don't siphon up any water with the washed gas. I can wash about 25-30 gallons by just siphoning more unwashed gas into the carboy and don't have to add any more water with each carboy fill up. Eventually there is 4 or 5 inches of alcohol/water mix in the bottom of of the carboy so that only 4 gallons of unwashed gas can be added. When that happens I siphon the alcohol/water mix off the bottom of the tank being careful not to siphon any gasoline.
I then start over. There is always some gas and water/alcohol left in the carboy so that I am not wasting any gasoline.
Pete
On 10/14/2010 6:52 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
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I take it you are leaving lots of time for the water to settle out
completely. Are you draining from the bottom or siphoning?
Noel
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% eth |
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It is a large small mouth bottle used in making beer.
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On 10/15/2010 10:04 AM, Hugh McKay wrote: | Quote: | --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net> (hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net)
Pete,
Pardon my ignorance in this matter, but please describe what you refer to as "a 6.5 gallon carboy"?
Hugh McKay
Rotax 912 UL
Allegro 2000
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From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com> (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:04 AM
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Subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% ethanol...
| Quote: | --> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Pete Christensen <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com> (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)
I siphon my unwashed gasoline into the water I have standing in the bottom of my 6.5 gallon glass carboy by putting the outlet side of the siphon hose in the standing water so that the gasoline swirls into the standing water. Having marked the water level on the side of the carboy before adding gas I am able to judge the quantity of ethanol I have removed since the level comes up about 3/4" after the mix settles. I usually let it sit 1/2 hour to be safe. I then siphon washed gas off the top leaving about 1.25" of gasoline on top of the water so that I don't siphon up any water with the washed gas. I can wash about 25-30 gallons by just siphoning more unwashed gas into the carboy and don't have to add any more water with each carboy fill up. Eventually there is 4 or 5 inches of alcohol/water mix in the bottom of of the carboy so that only 4 gallons of unwashed gas can be added. When that happens I siphon the alcohol/water mix off the bottom of the tank being careful not to siphon any gasoline.
I then start over. There is always some gas and water/alcohol left in the carboy so that I am not wasting any gasoline.
Pete
On 10/14/2010 6:52 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
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I take it you are leaving lots of time for the water to settle out
completely. Are you draining from the bottom or siphoning?
Noel
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:29 pm Post subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% eth |
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Go right ahead Pete...But don't bother to file off the edges.
Barry
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Pete Christensen <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)> wrote:
[quote] I use it to kill weeds and bugs. Or alternatively I make suppositories and shove them up some congressman's (oops I almost used a bad word)
Pete
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:40 pm Post subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% eth |
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and Pete. you did use one bad word, congressman! 
Graham
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Subject: Re: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% ethanol...
Go right ahead Pete..But don't bother to file off the edges.
Barry
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Pete Christensen <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)> wrote:
[quote] I use it to kill weeds and bugs. Or alternatively I make suppositories and shove them up some congressman's (oops I almost used a bad word)
Pete
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:37 pm Post subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% eth |
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Usually the container used for making beer is called a tun. The carboy is used for wine.
I know; Picky, picky, picky!
Noel
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Christensen
Sent: October 15, 2010 4:06 PM
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Subject: Re: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% ethanol...
It is a large small mouth bottle used in making beer.
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On 10/15/2010 10:04 AM, Hugh McKay wrote:
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net> (hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net)
Pete,
Pardon my ignorance in this matter, but please describe what you refer to as "a 6.5 gallon carboy"?
Hugh McKay
Rotax 912 UL
Allegro 2000
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From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com> (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:04 AM
To: <rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com> (rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% ethanol...
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Pete Christensen <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com> (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)
I siphon my unwashed gasoline into the water I have standing in the bottom of my 6.5 gallon glass carboy by putting the outlet side of the siphon hose in the standing water so that the gasoline swirls into the standing water. Having marked the water level on the side of the carboy before adding gas I am able to judge the quantity of ethanol I have removed since the level comes up about 3/4" after the mix settles. I usually let it sit 1/2 hour to be safe. I then siphon washed gas off the top leaving about 1.25" of gasoline on top of the water so that I don't siphon up any water with the washed gas. I can wash about 25-30 gallons by just siphoning more unwashed gas into the carboy and don't have to add any more water with each carboy fill up. Eventually there is 4 or 5 inches of alcohol/water mix in the bottom of of the carboy so that only 4 gallons of unwashed gas can be added. When that happens I siphon the alcohol/water mix off the bottom of the tank being careful not to siphon any gasoline.
I then start over. There is always some gas and water/alcohol left in the carboy so that I am not wasting any gasoline.
Pete
On 10/14/2010 6:52 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys"<noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca> (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)
I take it you are leaving lots of time for the water to settle out
completely. Are you draining from the bottom or siphoning?
Noel
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% eth |
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The Tun is used for mashing and lautering of the beer mash.
The cracked malted barley is placed in the mash tun where it is mixed with hot (120F-160F) water. The mash is held there till the starches in the malted barley have been converted to sugar. After conversion the mash may be lautered in the mash tun or moved to a specific lauater tun. Lautering is the washing of the fermentable sugar solution (wort) from the barley. The wort is run into a boil kettle where it is brought to a boil and up to three batches of hops are added at various points in the boil. The wort is boiled until the desired specific gravity is obtained. The wort is then cooled to below 80F and placed in a vessel with suitable yeast culture for fermentation. This vessel can range from a covered plastic bucket (poorest) to a stainless steel cylindroconical purpose designed fermenter (best). Most home brewers use the carboy, equipped with a fermentation air lock, for fermentation.
The carboy can also be used to ferment wine, mead, cider and other adult beverages.
Ya, a picky brewer...
Check six,
Bob Borger
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On Oct 17, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
| Quote: | Usually the container used for making beer is called a tun. The carboy is used for wine.
I know; Picky, picky, picky!
Noel
From: owner-rotaxengines-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rotaxengines-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rotaxengines-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Christensen
Sent: October 15, 2010 4:06 PM
To: rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com (rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% ethanol...
It is a large small mouth bottle used in making beer.
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On 10/15/2010 10:04 AM, Hugh McKay wrote:
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Hugh McKay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net> (hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net)
Pete,
Pardon my ignorance in this matter, but please describe what you refer to as "a 6.5 gallon carboy"?
Hugh McKay
Rotax 912 UL
Allegro 2000
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From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com> (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:04 AM
To: <rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com> (rotaxengines-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Washing Gas (was)Just when you were getting used to 10% ethanol...
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: Pete Christensen <pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com> (pchristensen10(at)austin.rr.com)
I siphon my unwashed gasoline into the water I have standing in the bottom of my 6.5 gallon glass carboy by putting the outlet side of the siphon hose in the standing water so that the gasoline swirls into the standing water. Having marked the water level on the side of the carboy before adding gas I am able to judge the quantity of ethanol I have removed since the level comes up about 3/4" after the mix settles. I usually let it sit 1/2 hour to be safe. I then siphon washed gas off the top leaving about 1.25" of gasoline on top of the water so that I don't siphon up any water with the washed gas. I can wash about 25-30 gallons by just siphoning more unwashed gas into the carboy and don't have to add any more water with each carboy fill up. Eventually there is 4 or 5 inches of alcohol/water mix in the bottom of of the carboy so that only 4 gallons of unwashed gas can be added. When that happens I siphon the alcohol/water mix off the bottom of the tank being careful not to siphon any gasoline.
I then start over. There is always some gas and water/alcohol left in the carboy so that I am not wasting any gasoline.
Pete
On 10/14/2010 6:52 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
--> RotaxEngines-List message posted by: "Noel Loveys"<noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca> (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)
I take it you are leaving lots of time for the water to settle out
completely. Are you draining from the bottom or siphoning?
Noel
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