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Dennis Thate

Joined: 18 Nov 2010
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

I've just purchased a Kolb Firestar / Rotax 503 ULDCDI ,  I'm putting it in Winter storage. What is the best protocal for storing the Rotax 503UL DCDI for five months ?

Thanks

rickofudall

Joined: 19 Sep 2009
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Location: Udall, KS, USA

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

Dennis, Get a spray can of misting oil from the local boat shop. Warm the engine to operating temp, shut it down, remove air filter(s), restart engine and bring throttle up to about 3000 RPM, spray misting oil into carb throats until engine dies. Remove a spark plug from each cylinder and spray oil into cylinders. Replace plugs, seal exhaust with a small rubber ball when it's cool enough not to melt the ball. I use a piece of thick plastic over each carb throat ( a zip lock freezer bag is perfect material ) and put air filter(s) back on. See two stroke Operations Manual 11.1.3, page 11-2 for more detailed instructions, but this will get you in the ball park.

Rick Girard



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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:21 am Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

I've just purchased a Kolb Firestar / Rotax 503 ULDCDI ,  I'm  putting it in Winter storage. What is the best protocal for storing the Rotax  503UL DCDI for five months ?

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 I bought a plane so I could go all 12 months of the  year,,,   unlike boating when there was ice on the  lake..    the best thing is to use the plane  in the winter  and give the engine a good exercise on a regular basis.   short of  that,,,,,  the fogging oil is a real good alternative.

  

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Dennis Thate

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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

by0ung,



   Our Midwest Winters are very bitter, I prefer not to fly open Cockpit in them. I admire the pilots that do.



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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:49 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

by0ung,



   Our Midwest Winters are very bitter, I  prefer not to fly open Cockpit in them. I admire the pilots that do.

 

Dennis



 probably not much worse than here in northern  ut,,,,    guess that is why I put on the full enclosure and  heater.   I have gone out when outside temps hover round  20,   10 when I landed,,,,    but days up in the high 30s  and low 40s  are much preferred.

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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:34 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

Boyd,

 Ship it down to Rick Neilsen in Fla.He'll keep it warm for you.

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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

Boyd,

Ship it down to Rick Neilsen in Fla.He'll keep it warm for  you.

 G.Aman



 

guess if i were not a scardi cat...     and most of all if i were retired and had the time...  I would fly it  down   and keep it warm with rick...   should have done it  last year when my son was in the keys.

  

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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

Boyd

  

 Hey just a bunch of short hops strung together. It is certainly nice to be retired so time isn't an issue. It's been in the low 80s and sunny in Florida. Come on down.

  

 I will miss not having my Kolb down here this winter but not that $300/ month hanger charge. I think it will be cheaper to rent this winter. Tuesday I'm scheduled to get checked out in a Sport Cruiser (this is the new Piper LSA). It will not be anything like a Kolb but it is flying and a bit faster.

   

 Gary when you get down here we will need to schedule a flyin. If we can get Buford to leave his home airport again we may be able to talk George A in to joining us????  



 Rick Neilsen

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Ship it down to Rick Neilsen in Fla.He'll keep it warm for you.

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guess if i were not a scardi cat...    and most of all if i were retired and had the time...  I would fly it down   and keep it warm with rick...   should have done it last year when my son was in the keys.

   

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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

Rick, You'll like the Piper. Very light handling. I wonder how they set the prop. The Sport Cruiser dealer in Wichita had both his aircraft set so that the 912 could only turn 5200 RPM on take off, but the EFIS showed a nice 138 kt cruise. Not exactly LSA legal, but it sure was fun. 



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 Hey just a bunch of short hops strung together. It is certainly nice to be retired so time isn't an issue. It's been in the low 80s and sunny in Florida. Come on down.

  

 I will miss not having my Kolb down here this winter but not that $300/ month hanger charge. I think it will be cheaper to rent this winter. Tuesday I'm scheduled to get checked out in a Sport Cruiser (this is the new Piper LSA). It will not be anything like a Kolb but it is flying and a bit faster.

    

 Gary when you get down here we will need to schedule a flyin. If we can get Buford to leave his home airport again we may be able to talk George A in to joining us????  



 Rick Neilsen

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Ship it down to Rick Neilsen in Fla.He'll keep it warm for you.

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guess if i were not a scardi cat...    and most of all if i were retired and had the time...  I would fly it down   and keep it warm with rick...   should have done it last year when my son was in the keys.

    

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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

Boyd,

 Just rubb'in it in a little.Packing up the Mk3 and heading south in about 10 days.Tell  Becky, Marj says hi.

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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:10 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

Rick, Sounds good to me.See you in a couple weeks

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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:36 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

Boyd

  

 Hey just a bunch of short hops strung together. It is certainly nice to be  retired so time isn't an issue. It's been in the low 80s and sunny in Florida.  Come on down.

  

 I will miss not having my Kolb down here this winter but not that  $300/ month hanger charge. I think it will be cheaper to rent this winter.  Tuesday I'm scheduled to get checked out in a Sport Cruiser (this is the new  Piper LSA). It will not be anything like a Kolb but it is flying and a bit  faster.

  

 Gary when you get down here we will need to schedule a flyin. If  we can get Buford to leave his home airport again we may be able to talk George  A in to joining us????  



 Rick Neilsen

  

 just need someone to donate say  half a  mil...   d find a way to get more than 1% interest in the  bank....  i would have retired last week.

  

 boyd

  

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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

Brother Rick…

I have a car…and a truck.    In the event the Nazi 447 will not start…or the Kleenex Kolb will not fly because my butt and the Macanudo stogie are too heavy…  will come anyway…

 

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Boyd



 



Hey just a bunch of short hops strung together. It is certainly nice to be retired so time isn't an issue. It's been in the low 80s and sunny in Florida. Come on down.



 



I will miss not having my Kolb down here this winter but not that $300/ month hanger charge. I think it will be cheaper to rent this winter. Tuesday I'm scheduled to get checked out in a Sport Cruiser (this is the new Piper LSA). It will not be anything like a Kolb but it is flying and a bit faster.



 



Gary when you get down here we will need to schedule a flyin. If we can get Buford to leave his home airport again we may be able to talk George A in to joining us????  



Rick Neilsen



 



just need someone to donate say  half a mil...   d find a way to get more than 1% interest in the bank....  i would have retired last week.



 



boyd



 



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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

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    Have to admit...this does look like fun

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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:58 pm Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

Ohooooo.......

  

 Gasp... 

  

 Is that frozen water?????

  

 Some time in my past I remember bone chilling Michigan winters. I have a pair of frozen water skies that I built for my MKIIIC. I used water skies that I glued and screwed a chunk of 2X4 to with blocking for support. The hinge is a standard door hinge with the hinge pin replaced with a bolt for easy (sort of) removal. The skies were attached just inside the wheels just above the ground so that the plane would roll on a hard surface yet slide in deep snow. The pictured restraining cables keep the skies restrained to a limited movement yet allow rotation and movement over snow banks. The bungee shown was doubled and kept the ski tips up in flight. The aluminum tangs shown fit in front and back of the lower wing strut fittings on the fuselage.  

   

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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:04 am Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

it is Dennis that's my old Firestar & the skis I built for it winter flying is the best 

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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:44 am Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

In the event the Nazi 447 will not start… 

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what do you  mean.....   if the 447 wont start?   i thought the kleenex  flying machine used a rubber band. 

  

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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 8:06 am Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:12 am Post subject: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

have to admit,,,  i have never tired  skis.>>

  

 Hi,

 I have a friend, a CFI of a local ultralight school  who told me that in his youth he tied the bumpers (fender?) of a car to the  undercariage.

 This was in a particularly hard winter and he  wanted to visit his girl friend on the other side of the valley.

  

 Of course this was in olden times when they  were a separate item which could be easily unbolted from the car, not moulded  into the body as they are now.

  

 Cheers

  

 Pat 

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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Kolb Firestar Winter storage

I found this excellent video on Winter Storage of Rotax Aircraft engines.

http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/26641749

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