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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Winter oil? Reply with quote

After finishing my test period, I’ve actually still got SAE 50 mineral oil in the plane, which is obviously more of a summer weight than winter (Massachusetts).

What are thoughts about leaving the SAE 50 in until the next oil change? I was thinking that the crucial part for oil temperature and viscosity is at start up, so as long as I am diligent about getting some pre-heat before starting, the SAE 50 might be okay for the short term. (airplane is always hangared, too)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Winter oil? Reply with quote

Tim

In Mass I would recommend you change and go to Mineral oil at 40 weight no need to go to 30 weight it is not cold enough there.

We ran 40 weight in all our planes at the fbo I worked at In anchorage Ak. Every winter and the average temp there was +5 f and only a week or 2 colder then that.



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After finishing my test period, I’ve actually still got SAE 50 mineral oil in the plane, which is obviously more of a summer weight than winter (Massachusetts).

What are thoughts about leaving the SAE 50 in until the next oil change? I was thinking that the crucial part for oil temperature and viscosity is at start up, so as long as I am diligent about getting some pre-heat before starting, the SAE 50 might be okay for the short term. (airplane is always hangared, too)

TDT


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Winter oil? Reply with quote

As a data point -- over on the red board, the guy who makes CamGuard states he runs 20W50 Fall/Winter/Spring and W100 in the Summer. He's based in NJ.

Here's the link to the thread (note: it's really about CamGuard but oil gets discussed as well) in case you're curious:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:07 am    Post subject: Winter oil? Reply with quote

Tim,
I changed to multigrade after 40 hrs.
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After finishing my test period, I’ve actually still got SAE 50 mineral oil in the plane, which is obviously more of a summer weight than winter (Massachusetts).

What are thoughts about leaving the SAE 50 in until the next oil change? I was thinking that the crucial part for oil temperature and viscosity is at start up, so as long as I am diligent about getting some pre-heat before starting, the SAE 50 might be okay for the short term. (airplane is always hangared, too)

TDT


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: Winter oil? Reply with quote

Better yet, go to Phillips 20W50, either type M if you feel mineral is
important, or regular X/C since you have more than 25 hours on the
engine. I didn't like grade 80/40W oil when flying in Fairbanks, Alaska,
too thin when ever it warmed up. When multigrade became available, it
solved that problem. Add some CamGuard for corrosion protection if you
aren't going to fly at least 10 hr/month.
On 11/30/2010 11:39 AM, John Cumins wrote:
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Tim

In Mass I would recommend you change and go to Mineral oil at 40
weight no need to go to 30 weight it is not cold enough there.

We ran 40 weight in all our planes at the fbo I worked at In anchorage
Ak. Every winter and the average temp there was +5 f and only a week
or 2 colder then that.

John G. Cumins

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*Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
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*Subject:* Winter oil?

After finishing my test period, I’ve actually still got SAE 50 mineral
oil in the plane, which is obviously more of a summer weight than
winter (Massachusetts).

What are thoughts about leaving the SAE 50 in until the next oil
change? I was thinking that the crucial part for oil temperature and
viscosity is at start up, so as long as I am diligent about getting
some pre-heat before starting, the SAE 50 might be okay for the short
term. (airplane is always hangared, too)

TDT

Tim Dawson-Townsend

RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks)

tdt(at)aurora.aero <mailto:tdt(at)aurora.aero>

617-500-4812 (office)

617-905-4800 (mobile)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: Winter oil? Reply with quote

After finishing my test period, I’ve actually still got SAE 50 mineral
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oil in the plane, which is obviously more of a summer weight than
winter (Massachusetts).

What are thoughts about leaving the SAE 50 in until the next oil
change? I was thinking that the crucial part for oil temperature and
viscosity is at start up, so as long as I am diligent about getting
some pre-heat before starting, the SAE 50 might be okay for the short
term. (airplane is always hangared, too)

If you have electricity in the hangar I would leave the oil in till the next change. Put one of these on the bottom of the sump. http://www.archeat.com/#
Ps. buy the one that's thermostatically controlled.

Thick oil is your friend if you warm the motor up correctly.
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