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chuck515tigger(at)yahoo.c
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

Welcome John.   I respectfully accept your inadequacies....  I understand Van did it for "sale" appeal.   And I do admit I can't want until one of my friends gets done building their RV-10 so I can go flyin' with them.

   

  Just a heads-up; periodically, I like to run over and swat this RV-List/Hornets Nest and sit back whilst they get all lathered up.   Hecka doodle, it's almost as much fun as taping a cat to my neighbor's front door and ringin' the bell.   I usually don't even run, cuz' the cat gets un-stuck when they open the door, and I can't run straight when I'm laughin' & cryin' that hard.



  Take air,

   

  Chuck

  

John Jessen <jjessen(at)rcn.com> wrote:

  



I was building all weekend so came late to this thread. LOL! Now this is

much better entertainment than you get on TV or radio. 



Ok, that settles it. I'm heading down to Woodhaven, or whatever that

woodworking store is called, and picking myself up a castering shop cart

wheel, a big one. I'm going to build a mount for it, something that slants

downward from the tail, then after landing and parking in the RV section of

whatever air show, I'm mounting that wheel, along with a bag of shot in the

rear to weight it down. Now with the plane safely angled in the right

direction, I can brag about my ability to tap dance, spend an hour flying

before heading home to make sure mamma is feeling satisfied, do some close

hand holding with my buddies going to and from air shows, and generally feel

good about my plane's manliness! I love it......



John Jessen

40328 (working on the RV-10 Tailcone and designing my fourth wheel) 





		

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chuck515tigger(at)yahoo.c
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

Good Golly.  My RV-4 stalls between 47 & 49 "MPH".    If it was 48 Knots, I could put her straight down like them there silly hilly-chopters thingees (Ya'll know them things don't really fly....  they just beat the air into submission).

   

  Chuck



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"Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" <Fred.Stucklen(at)UTCPower.com> wrote:

  



Guys,



I've demonstrated a 48 Knot gusting to 53 Knot, 90* crosswind full

stop landing in my so called "Sissy" nose wheel airplane

(Key West, FL, 12/26/04). Do that with a tail wheel plane! 



Fred Stucklen

RV-6A N926RV

574 Hrs Second offender






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Actually some of them do handle fairly high crosswinds. That may

be a testament to their skill or their lack of judgement. I also

wonder

why they have to find someone else to fly with them when they go

beyond an hour away. Then they have to fly closely as if "holding

hands"

for reassurance. Makes you wonder. Another  for the

humor

impaired.



Ron Lee



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		  Ron, Ron, Ron. Think about it. They can't stay gone more than an

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		  because a _crosswind_ might develop while they're out, and then what

could 
	


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		  they do? Call momma to bind hull coverage and have the runway

foamed?
	


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klwerner(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:49 am Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

Good Golly.  My RV-4 stalls between 47 & 49 "MPH".   =20



Dear Chuck, if this was a math test then the answer is 48! =20

Smack dab in "between 47 & 49"!  =20



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pcowper(at)webtv.net (Pet
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

We taildragger fans will have to concede that the delivery of the first

Atomic Bomb was trusted to the nose-wheeled B-29.



Of course by the end of the war there were so many women pilots that

they may have had to begin moving the little wheels to the front of all

aircraft . . . 



Pete Cowper

RV-8 #81139 working on fuselage with tail spring proudly mounted.

Rick Galati

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 91
Location: Lake St. Louis MO.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

[quote\...by the end of the war there were so many women pilots that they may have had to begin moving the little wheels to the front of all

aircraft . . . Pete Cowper[/quote]



While many among us continue to be eternally fixated on the proper position of that 3rd wheel (as if our opinion could ever change a single mind), it may be helpful to remember yet another insightful perspective, this one originating from our esteemed Navy brethern......"Flare to land, squat to pee!"   



Rick Galati  RV-6A  "Darla"

Jerry Cochran

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 111
Location: Wilsonville, OR

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

Listers...

 

Just ask Jerry if his HUGE crosswind rudder is the same one that came with  

the kit... 

Sorry Jerry, I couldn't let ya get away with this even though you let me  

skid by on that last biennial...

 

Plz do not archive

 

Jerry Cochran

Another NW Weenee

Wilsonville, OR

 

 

 



From:  Jerry Springer <jsflyrv(at)verizon.net>

Subject: Re: RV Sissies  (Was: First Flight)




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		  Ron, Ron, Ron.  Think about  it.  They can't stay gone more than an hour 

because
	


a _crosswind_  might develop while they're out, and then what could they do?

Call momma to  bind hull coverage and have the runway foamed?   

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Most nose weenies  now days are scared to death of a  tailwheel 

airplane. BTW have any of you done the research

to see how  many taildraggers have takeoff/landing accident versus nose 

wheel TO/LD  accidents in RV's? You might be

surprised at the results. An airplane is an  airplane is an airplane 

makes no difference to me if its nose drags or its  tail drags.

Granted you have to pay more attention to landing a TD airplane  over a 

NW airplane, but is that bad? No I don't think so.

I would be  interested to see what the max Direct X-wind component most 

of you nose  wheel RV "DRIVERS" have landed with?

The max for me in my RV-6 was 24kts  direct across the runway, not fun 

but doable. How about the rest of  you?????



Jerry

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jsflyrv(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

From: Jerry2DT(at)aol.com

Date: Mon May 01 16:33:33 CDT 2006

To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

Listers...

Just ask Jerry if his HUGE crosswind rudder is the same one that came with

the kit...

Sorry Jerry, I couldn't let ya get away with this even though you let me

skid by on that last biennial...

Plz do not archive

Jerry Cochran

Another NW Weenee

Wilsonville, OR

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Ah Jerry C. it is just that you were scaring me so much that I had to sign you off just so I could get out of the airplane. 

When I landed in that X-wind situation I had not yet put the RV-7 rudder on my RV-6, shot I could probably do 40 kts now. (NOT) 

BTW I finally got the rudder and vertical stab.painted and it looks really nice with the checker board pattern.

Jerry (all in good fun) Springer

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klwerner(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

Pete,



You must be single . . . ?  



I met a few WASP's, and they flew aircraft many of us can only dream =

about. Great gal's, and even greater pilots!



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chuck515tigger(at)yahoo.c
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

It's them dang VG's.... I'm guessin' but a rough estimate would be 47.53856432 ~ mph

   

  I just can't get it to stall unless the power's off.

  

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"Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner(at)comcast.net> wrote:

  






Good Golly. My RV-4 stalls between 47 & 49 "MPH". =20



Dear Chuck, if this was a math test then the answer is 48! =20

Smack dab in "between 47 & 49"! =20



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cfi1513840

Joined: 11 Apr 2006
Posts: 14

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:22 am Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

Speaking of lady pilots, check out this link...



Ken - Do not archive



http://www.nellis.af.mil/thunderbirds/06officerhtms/06officers3.htm



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Ken Howell
Glenwood Maryland
RV-7 Wings

rv8ch

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 250
Location: Switzerland

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:58 am Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

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 Speaking of lady pilots, check out this link...

 

 Ken - Do not archive

 

 http://www.nellis.af.mil/thunderbirds/06officerhtms/06officers3.htm

 


	


Yes, but no TD time!    As the proud father of two little girls,

I'm sure that Capt. Malachowski's dad couldn't be more proud of her.

-- 

Mickey Coggins

http://www.rv8.ch/

#82007 finishing

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paulmike(at)parashak.net
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

Did you notice that all the officers photos had them holding  

helmets...even the PAO.  Wonder how much stick time the PAO gets?



Paul



On May 2, 2006, at 07:15, Ken Howell wrote:



[quote] 



 Speaking of lady pilots, check out this link...



 Ken - Do not archive



 http://www.nellis.af.mil/thunderbirds/06officerhtms/06officers3.htm



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klwerner(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

Paul,

Please define her getting "STICK" time?=20

What exactly do you mean by that? =20

Sorry, I simply could not resist

no offense meant to anyone

please do not archive ever

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flyrv6(at)bryantechnology
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

Good Golly?  You would feel pretty silly sitting there above the runway n=

ot

moving when the wind suddenly quit.  I have seen that look in the roadrun=

ner

cartoons.  Seriously, are you not supposed to add some percent to your

landing speed above the wind speed?=0D

=0D

I get the point though, you could land pretty slow and maybe the runway

width is plenty long. =0D

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mike
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: RV Sissies (Was: First Flight)

First off, hello, I'm new to the list, actually a cross over from the kitfox list.  I fly currently a kitfox IV speedster 912, TAILWHEEL airplane over 400 hours in type.  I'm building an RV7A, WHAT!!!  Sorry, I want my kids and wife to learn how to fly this airplane, I want to fly all over this wonderful country, I want affordable insurance, I want to see where I'm going on the ground.  Did I mention, I'm no weenie.  Did I mention the airforce fighter pilots are not weenies. They started making planes with a nose gear for the women pilots in the airforce. Ya right, that's why we have Capt malachowski flying no.3 in delta formation, 18 inches from another airplane, ya right, like to see you do this. I'm sure the wheel in the front doesn't matter, in fact it's tucked up inside during this time.  I'm sure the nose wheel was put on military aircraft for a reason, oh, try for landing on a carrier.  and many other reasons.  I'm sure millions of dollars on one aircraft sums it up.



sure I like my td kitfox, I let an rv8 pilot try to land my fox, I ended up taking over, he couldn't do it.  I have landed my kitfox with over 12knt direct cross winds, but I cheated, went cross runway, did I wimp out, I don't think so, I still have an airplane to fly.



Sure I'm going to get it for building an rv7a, but I don't care, it's my airplane, and it will be a pretty one, oh, is that being a weenie also, me calling my 7a pretty.  don't know, don't care.  Ain't this fun!!!   



kitfoxmike

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