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blorber(at)southwestcirru
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Jim Addington wrote:

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I got this from our retired group.

A most interesting video....  Watch Bob Hoover pour ice tea into a 

glass while performing an aileron roll.  WOW

> http://youtube.com/watch?v=vQpVI_aldB0&search=aircraft

>    

>

Y'all can do this with N400CH.  Any time you want.  All you have to do 

is pry the yoke out of my cold, dead hands.

BTW: I never show up underarmed.

Brock

http://www.southwestcirrus.com/n400ch/

BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Too late! I did it in 1976 when N400CH was N222AD. 

 

By the way, that aircraft has a neat history of hauling celebrities while  it 

was owned by AVCO Broadcasting and was was used to support the Phil  Donahue 

show, in it's early days, in Dayton, Ohio.  

 

My employer purchased it from AVCO and Dick Wartinger and I (yes, I  

physicaly did a lot of the work. Since we had nothing to fly) converted it to  the Mr. 

RPM at his shop (Then Dayton Aviation) and it was the first  conversion done 

outside of Dick McCoon's shop. I flew it with both  types of engines. It was a 

great airplane. 

 

Bill Leff

deneals

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 29

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:21 am Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Now you've gone and made the AVCO TV jingle get stuck in my brain.....



"Channel 2 in Dayton;

Channel 4 Columbus;

13 is the channel over in Indianapolis (Indiana)

And the whole thing originates live

On Channel 5 Cincinnati Cincinnati O-High-O!"



 

___________________________

Deneal Schilmeister

St. Louis - Cincinnati

1997 SL500

http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm



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JBOBSTER(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Dean

 

Thanks for the memories!

 

Jim Carroll

Seattle 

 

(Cincinnati Native)

blorber(at)southwestcirru
Guest

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

BillLeff1(at)aol.com wrote:



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Too late! I did it in 1976 when N400CH was N222AD. 

 

By the way, that aircraft has a neat history of hauling celebrities while  it 

was owned by AVCO Broadcasting and was was used to support the Phil  Donahue 

show, in it's early days, in Dayton, Ohio.  

 

My employer purchased it from AVCO and Dick Wartinger and I (yes, I  

physicaly did a lot of the work. Since we had nothing to fly) converted it to  the Mr. 

RPM at his shop (Then Dayton Aviation) and it was the first  conversion done 

outside of Dick McCoon's shop. I flew it with both  types of engines. It was a 

great airplane. 

 

Bill Leff



 

 

 





  



Bill:
	




Please call me.  702-510-7728



Thanks,

Brock

BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Actually Donahue was live from WLW-D channel 2 in Dayton.

 

AVCO was originally the Crosley Brodcasting.

 

Bob Hope road in N400CH (then N700KC) many times. When he would be picked  up 

in that airplane he would say to the pilot (Charlie Petro) "well Carlie, I  

see you brought the Spad"!

 

I guess he was use to bigger aircraft.

 

Bill Leff

deneals

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 29

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

And of course, 700KC represented the frequency of their flagship station,

WLW Radio, which broadcasts on a frequency of 700KiloCycles.

Of course these days they call kilocycles kilohertz.



While Donohue originated in Dayton (whatever happened to Cassano's Pizza,

anyway?) the other Avco shows like Paul Dixon and Ruth Lyons originated at

channel 5, where that jingle came from.



Didn't Cassano's operate a Commander for a while?

 

___________________________

Deneal Schilmeister   [ex 580M]

St. Louis - Cincinnati

1997 SL500

http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm



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barry.collman(at)air-brit
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Hi All,



680FLP-1527-24, CF-SNL, N700KC, N222AD, N400CH has an interesting piece of not 

exactly trivia!



When it returned from Canada in March 1968, a telegram from Aero Commander to 

DoT Canada quoted the aircraft's unit number quite clearly as "-29" and that 

number, instead of the correct "-24" has been used in paperwork ever since!!



If the current owner is willing to photograph the serial number plate for me, 

I'll be VERY interested in seeing a copy.



With regard to Cassano's Pizza, I can find Cassano Enterprises Inc., in Dayton 

on my database.



They purchased 680-505-175, N6348U, on November 12th 1969, jointly with Sandy's 

Woodman Drive Inc. On February 3rd 1970, an Application for Registration changed 

Sandy's Woodman Drive Inc to Kettle Concepts Inc. The aircraft was sold on 

December 16th 1971.



On the previous day, Cassano Enterprises Inc. had purchased Model 680FL, s/n 

1640-121. It was sold April 18th 1979.



Very Best Regards,

Barry



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barry.collman(at)air-brit
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:54 am Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Hi again!



I made an error when posting my last message.



Instead of "When it returned from Canada in March 1968", I should have stated 

"When exported to Canada in July 1965".



So, apologies for that.



Kindest Regards,

Barry



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BillLeff1(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Cassano's Pizza operated a 680FL N6509V. The Pilots name was Guy  Douglas.

 

Rob Reider, a regular on The Ruth Lyons Show is my air show  announcer.

 

Ex N580M? Which 580M?  The 560F or the 681? Frank Woods Sr. was a  regular at 

our shop.

 

Bill Leff

BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Berry, N6348U was the first Commander I ever flew (1971). Guy Douglas was  

Cassono's Pilot and took me along to go pick up N700KC (the second commander I  

ever flew) for some maintenance.

 

The last time I saw N6509V s/n 1640-121 it was hauling freight. It had a  bad 

lightning strike while Cassano's had it and last time I saw it the repair  

for the entry point was still there, a #10 screw and a faring washer below the  

pilots window. They had to change both engines and props and the vertical  fin 

cap (which blew off!)

 

Bill Leff

BillLeff1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:55 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

That is wright. Another division of AVCO flew it for about 1000 hours  before 

it was transferred to WLW.

 

Bill

deneals

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 29

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

I flew with Frank a lot.  In fact I met you once when Frank and I visited

with you (at least I think it was you) you worked at State Farm.



I flew with him on the 560F, 681 690A and his P Baron.  I also flew his IFR

Super Cub, (at the time 580LM) and crewed the balloon.



Browse my picture site and you'll see many pictures of my adventures with

Frank.  He was my mentor, responsible for my aviation interests and career.

http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/PhotoAlbum7.html

http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/PhotoAlbum9.html



Btw his widow, Mary, passed away last March.  

Frank's son doesn't fly himself, but owns a C750 to get around in.



I operated a 690A for a brief time (N80LP), and Dick did our work when he

was in Xenia.



Rob Reider was a friend of a friend who used to fly Learjets for me in the

early 80s.  Rob played at my friends wedding, if memory serves me correctly.



The friend unfortunately perished in a Learjet accident in Newark in 1983.



PS if you look at my pictures and see a Commander 112, its one I rented once

from Fliteways, 1215J was based at MGY or whatever they call that airport

now.

 

___________________________

Deneal Schilmeister

St. Louis - Cincinnati

1997 SL500

http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/



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blorber(at)southwestcirru
Guest

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Barry Collman wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>



 Hi All,



 680FLP-1527-24, CF-SNL, N700KC, N222AD, N400CH has an interesting 

 piece of not

 exactly trivia!



 When it returned from Canada in March 1968, a telegram from Aero 

 Commander to

 DoT Canada quoted the aircraft's unit number quite clearly as "-29" 

 and that

 number, instead of the correct "-24" has been used in paperwork ever 

 since!!



 If the current owner is willing to photograph the serial number plate 

 for me,

 I'll be VERY interested in seeing a copy.



Barry:
	




I'll take a picture tomorrow and e-mail it to you.



Brock

barry.collman(at)air-brit
Guest

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 4:38 am Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Hi Brock,



Grateful thanks.



Very Best Regards,

Barry



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BertBerry1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Hey Guys,



I'd like to see some pictures of -24/-29 too please.



Bert



bertberry1(at)aol.com

blorber(at)southwestcirru
Guest

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:03 am Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

 	  Quote: 	
		  | >

| > If the current owner is willing to photograph the serial number plate

| > for me,

| > I'll be VERY interested in seeing a copy.

| >



  



Barry:
	




Polished aluminum doesn't photograph well.  I've tried everything but 

prying the plate off with a crowbar and scanning it!  I'll send you the 

pics, but they won't be very useful.  Bottom line, it's just -29.  I 

have extensive documentation on the airplane, and don't see any 

reference to -24.



Brock

barry.collman(at)air-brit
Guest

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

Hi Brock,



It seems to me that your serial number plate was therefore completed in error. 

Serial number 1527 will definitely have been unit number 24 on a 680FLP.



Here are examples of a few 680FLP Models just before and just after your one 

and -29:



1507-20 (Certified April 1965)

1509-21

1513-22

1515-23

1527-24 (Certified July 1965)

1599-25

1607-26

1615-27

1623-28

1634-29 (Certified March 1966)

1638-30

1643-31

1651-32 (Certified November 1966)



Sincere Best Regards,

Barry



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Skyhawkc-172

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 84

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: Hoover [bcc][faked-from]

FYI...Anyone possibly interested in making a stop at Blaine Aviation Days.  It's coming up soon May 20/21.  



This is an info site:  http://www.eaachapter237.org/index.html



Nice to see a Commander lineup on the ramp...



Brent Mueller

N224HA



-------------- Original message -------------- 

From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk> 



[quote] 

 

 

 Hi Brock, 

 

 It seems to me that your serial number plate was therefore completed in error. 

 Serial number 1527 will definitely have been unit number 24 on a 680FLP. 

 

 Here are examples of a few 680FLP Models just before and just after your one 

 and -29: 

 

 1507-20 (Certified April 1965) 

 1509-21 

 1513-22 

 1515-23 

 1527-24 (Certified July 1965) 

 1599-25 

 1607-26 

 1615-27 

 1623-28 

 1634-29 (Certified March 1966) 

 1638-30 

 1643-31 

 1651-32 (Certified November 1966) 

 

 Sincere Best Regards, 

 Barry 

 

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