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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:02 am Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

I just finished a write-up last night on my most recent

project. If you have older kids or Teenagers especially

that will be riding in the back seats of your RV-10, this

may be something you really find interesting.

If you rarely use your back seat, or only have one kid,

you probably could care less.



http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20101228/index.html



I spent a lot of time figuring out what to do, but the

actual task wasn't too bad.  I really wish I had thought

of some of these concepts (especially the passive mixer

for the rear input) when I first wired the plane.



Anyway, I couldn't be more thrilled now with the audio

system in the plane...the kids were pretty happy that they

can now have individual music, and yet share a movie

and do it all via Bluetooth.



-- 

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

jdriggs49(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:46 am Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

Your Lightspeed Zulu must not have been working very well. My kids gave me one for Xmas and I used it in the plane (737) from Ontario to Denver to Nashville. I was tired and the plane seemed extra loud. After putting on the Zulu I was even able to take a nap it was so quite. So, you must have gotten a bum product.  

 	  Quote: 	
		   Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:59:35 -0600

 From: Tim(at)myrv10.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RV10-List: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

 I just finished a write-up last night on my most recent

 project. If you have older kids or Teenagers especially

 that will be riding in the back seats of your RV-10, this

 may be something you really find interesting.

 If you rarely use your back seat, or only have one kid,

 you probably could care less.

 http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20101228/index.html

 I spent a lot of time figuring out what to do, but the

 actual task wasn't too bad.  I really wish I had thought

 of some of these concepts (especially the passive mixer

 for the rear input) when I first wired the plane.

 Anyway, I couldn't be more thrilled now with the audio

 system in the plane...the kids were pretty happy that they

 can now have individual music, and yet share a movie

 and do it all via Bluetooth.

 -- 

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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Tom Biggs

Joined: 01 Oct 2010
Posts: 13

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:52 am Post subject: Re: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

Nice.... and I am planning out secure rivet storage....

Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:55 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

Ha!  Get used to that feeling.  Dreaming helps.



I keep telling myself how much fun the build has been but it's sounding 

a bit hollow as I sit here with little to do waiting for 

paint-compatible temps.



Good dreams,

Bill "needing 50-plus degrees for paint booth heating system to work" Watson

On 12/29/2010 2:52 PM, Tom Biggs wrote:

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 Nice.... and I am planning out secure rivet storage....

rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:55 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

I am interested in other reviews. I have a Bose  X, tested and it worked great in the -10,  I have a Lightspeed 30-3g tested  in a -10 and that too worked fine, so I assumed the Zulu would be better than  the 30-3G, I have yet to test them in a moving -10, they sounded great standing  still [img]C:\Users\pascal\AppData\Local\Temp\DefaultEmoticons\Emoticon3.gif[/img]

 What is important about Tim's review is Aviation  consumer news rated then better than Bose in the 2009 buyers guide, but Tim  mentioned that it was the -10's  IO540 that did not resonate well with the  Zulu, I think a Cessna or Cirrus was used for the test. Avweb mentioned (http://www.avweb.com/news/reviews/lightspeed_zulu_headset_review_197123-1.html)

 "Compared to the Bose X, we noticed a significant  reduction in cockpit noise in passive mode, which is only marginally important  because most active noise reduction (ANR) headsets will be powered at all times.  When the ANR system was turned on, the Zulu got even better. How much? The  techies say the combined passive/active noise reduction is about 8 decibels  better than anyone else. Regardless, in our subjective testing, the Zulu was  more than a match for the Bose Headset X, though it's not a runaway victory:  "very good" versus "even better."

  

 So what is important is not whether the Zulu is a  great headset, but if it is in a -10. 

  

 Anyone with the Zulu flying in the -10.. thoughts  please

  

 Tim;

 Great writeup, thanks for the time an steps you  took to make the solution work out.

  

 Thanks!

Pascal

  

  

 

  From: Danny Riggs (jdriggs49(at)msn.com) 

 Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:42 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Subject: RE: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment  System

 



Your Lightspeed Zulu must not have been working very well. My  kids gave me one for Xmas and I used it in the plane (737) from Ontario to  Denver to Nashville. I was tired and the plane seemed extra loud. After putting  on the Zulu I was even able to take a nap it was so quite. So, you must have  gotten a bum product.  



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		   Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:59:35 -0600

 From:  Tim(at)myrv10.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RV10-List:  The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

 

 --> RV10-List  message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

 

 I just  finished a write-up last night on my most recent

 project. If you have  older kids or Teenagers especially

 that will be riding in the back seats  of your RV-10, this

 may be something you really find  interesting.

 If you rarely use your back seat, or only have one  kid,

 you probably could care less.

 

  http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20101228/index.html

 

 I  spent a lot of time figuring out what to do, but the

 actual task wasn't  too bad. I really wish I had thought

 of some of these concepts  (especially the passive mixer

 for the rear input) when I first wired the  plane.

 

 Anyway, I couldn't be more thrilled now with the  audio

 system in the plane...the kids were pretty happy that they

  can now have individual music, and yet share a movie

 and do it all via  Bluetooth.

 

 -- 

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

  

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:49 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

Any viable comparison should be done with at least two separate sets of the same model in Head to Head evaluation.  I have a Decibel meter I can provide to record the base line noise level of any RV-10 and will get a spectrum analyzer to add to the establishment of specific RV-10 noise generation. NO other aircraft need volunteer. I doubt Tim's is noisier than most except for the dueling MP3 blue tooth "soon to be teens" in the back seat.

  

 This thread is a good one following the Christmas of 2010.

  

 Noise Attenuation is a great new thread which I could throw suppliers into the mix if the audience wanted.  Pegasus AeroMarine - Dan Newland (OSH 2009 Speaker).  EAA may just have audio tapes of Dan's presentation. And I live right down the street from Lightspeed if anyone has Quality Control issues or needs a local strong-arm.

  

 Happy New Year.

  



  John Cox

 ANVS Specialist - Bombardier Q400 Turboprops



 

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Sent: Wed 12/29/2010 11:42 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

 Your Lightspeed Zulu must not have been working very well. My kids gave me one for Xmas and I used it in the plane (737) from Ontario to Denver to Nashville. I was tired and the plane seemed extra loud. After putting on the Zulu I was even able to take a nap it was so quite. So, you must have gotten a bum product.  [img][/img]



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		   Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:59:35 -0600

 From: Tim(at)myrv10.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

 

 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

 

 I just finished a write-up last night on my most recent

 project. If you have older kids or Teenagers especially

 that will be riding in the back seats of your RV-10, this

 may be something you really find interesting.

 If you rarely use your back seat, or only have one kid,

 you probably could care less.

 

 http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20101228/index.html

 

 I spent a lot of time figuring out what to do, but the

 actual task wasn't too bad. I really wish I had thought

 of some of these concepts (especially the passive mixer

 for the rear input) when I first wired the plane.

 

 Anyway, I couldn't be more thrilled now with the audio

 system in the plane...the kids were pretty happy that they

 can now have individual music, and yet share a movie

 and do it all via Bluetooth.

 

 -- 

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

 

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

Tim, you must have a bad Zulu headset. I've been using Zulus in my RV10 for a couple of years now- quietest ones I've used, including Bose. No issues at all....



Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:



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 I just finished a write-up last night on my most recent

 project. If you have older kids or Teenagers especially

 that will be riding in the back seats of your RV-10, this

 may be something you really find interesting.

 If you rarely use your back seat, or only have one kid,

 you probably could care less.

 

 http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20101228/index.html

 

 I spent a lot of time figuring out what to do, but the

 actual task wasn't too bad.  I really wish I had thought

 of some of these concepts (especially the passive mixer

 for the rear input) when I first wired the plane.

 

 Anyway, I couldn't be more thrilled now with the audio

 system in the plane...the kids were pretty happy that they

 can now have individual music, and yet share a movie

 and do it all via Bluetooth.

 

 -- 

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

Well, IMHO, headsets are like primer and other metal prep. Depends on head siz/shape, ear size, ear sensitivity, sweat glands and just personal preference. I could live with either one, and I can easily see where one could be better on a given head than another. I wish the Bose had better passive protection, I wish the Zulus were an ounce or two lighter and less clamping. I wish Bose treated their customers a bit more like Lightspeed re trade up, etc.

 

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Kevin Belue <kdbelue(at)charter.net (kdbelue(at)charter.net)> wrote:

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 Tim, you must have a bad Zulu headset. I've been using Zulus in my RV10 for a couple of years now- quietest ones I've used, including Bose. No issues at all....

 

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:24 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

I'd have to say that it either had to be a bad headset or

something strange then.  They were pretty darn bad.  The

low frequency stuff really got through bad.   Now, when I

powered them off and on, there was a big difference, so I

know the ANR was at least functioning to some reasonable

degree.  The performance of it was what wasn't good.  If

I squeezed them in on my head, I'd say, for pulling a number

out of my butt, that maybe it was 85% of what the Bose X's

were.

Now last night I went flying for the first flight with the

A20's from Bose.  Those were actually noticeably quieter

than the X's, which surprised me.  I remember throwing them

on in the booth at OSH and thinking it wasn't too big a deal.

I think though that it's important to test them in the same

plane, at the same time, swapping them on and off your

head.  You get a real sense of what sounds you are reducing.

The Bose A20's actually get rid of so much low frequency

noise that the engine itself sounded higher pitched to me.

It was much more faint, but it really took out the lows

better.  The X's were always very good for me. You turn

them on and it quickly ramps up the ANR, and then it's

much quieter.

If someone every brings a set of Zulu's with me, I'd be

happy to try out another pair....after the experience,

and the fit for the kids, I'd have to say that even if

they came out as good or better than the X's, I wouldn't

take them.  The Bose sets are actually quite a bit more

flexible in terms of who they'll fit. I'm sure you could

take them all the way from a 2 year old up to a large

adult.  If you truly have a very large head, I think

the Zulu's would ultimately feel more comfortable to you

though, to be honest.  But the Bose are by far the most

flexible in size range....so a pair of X's or A20's would make

a great set in the aft seats because they'd fit anyone.

Headsets, to me, are a very personal choice. If the performance

of the Zulu's had been up to par, I'd likely have pursued

a couple pair.  That said, now that I've tried the A20's,

and have the music system built that I do, I'm much happier

with the setup I have.....it's more flexible.  Lightspeed

did a good job with the music input on the Zulu though.

Wish we saw more of that in the industry. Bose really

lost that one.

Final notes....  First, I think just because a headset works

in one plane, doesn't mean it'll work as well in some other

type.  Second, to me, I don't really care if one headset is

$100-200 (or even $500) less than another.  If you use them

as many hours as I have, it really doesn't matter...what

matters is that after 10 hours of X/C, you still weren't

bothered by them at all.

One note about the A20's, that is kind of cool.  Since

they have batteries in them (you don't need batteries to

use them panel-powered though), you can buy a LEMO to

dual plug adapter, and use them in standard jacks. So for

those who hop planes a lot, it may be the most flexible

set available.  The price isn't really too bad for the

adapter, either.

I did try to love the Zulu's. I was pretty pumped when I

bought them.  I'd love to wear another pair some day so

that I can write that they work just as well.  It just

wasn't the experience I had.  I did have the latest model,

too...the new ones don't have the FRC button anymore.

I also really did get some offline replies from a few people

who said they had the same experience I did....so I can't

say it's just me.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Kevin Belue wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Tim, you must have a bad Zulu headset. I've been using Zulus in my RV10 for a couple of years now- quietest ones I've used, including Bose. No issues at all....

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Tim Olson<Tim(at)myrv10.com>  wrote:

> 

>

> I just finished a write-up last night on my most recent

> project. If you have older kids or Teenagers especially

> that will be riding in the back seats of your RV-10, this

> may be something you really find interesting.

> If you rarely use your back seat, or only have one kid,

> you probably could care less.

>

> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20101228/index.html

>

> I spent a lot of time figuring out what to do, but the

> actual task wasn't too bad.  I really wish I had thought

> of some of these concepts (especially the passive mixer

> for the rear input) when I first wired the plane.

>

> Anyway, I couldn't be more thrilled now with the audio

> system in the plane...the kids were pretty happy that they

> can now have individual music, and yet share a movie

> and do it all via Bluetooth.

>

> --

> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

>

rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:35 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

I have to say that Lightspeed has a very fine support group. If you still 

have the headset Tim send it back to them to have it checked. I had a 

problem with my 30-3G that had feedback during runups only, turned out it 

was the CAP 182 issue, and Lightspeed ran it through some test and did some 

fine tuning. They sent me new gel pads on the headset too explaining that 

they saw no issues but the pads might help fill any gaps that "may" have 

caused the issue. They really took an interest in seeing this resolved for 

me even if they couldn't find anything wrong with the actual set.

I was getting worried my Zulu would not be what I expected, glad to see the 

positive feedback on this issue.

Thanks!

Pascal



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From: "Kevin Belue" <kdbelue(at)charter.net>

Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 3:30 PM

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Tim, you must have a bad Zulu headset. I've been using Zulus in my RV10 

 for a couple of years now- quietest ones I've used, including Bose. No 

 issues at all....



 Sent from my iPhone



 On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:



> 

>

> I just finished a write-up last night on my most recent

> project. If you have older kids or Teenagers especially

> that will be riding in the back seats of your RV-10, this

> may be something you really find interesting.

> If you rarely use your back seat, or only have one kid,

> you probably could care less.

>

> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20101228/index.html

>

> I spent a lot of time figuring out what to do, but the

> actual task wasn't too bad.  I really wish I had thought

> of some of these concepts (especially the passive mixer

> for the rear input) when I first wired the plane.

>

> Anyway, I couldn't be more thrilled now with the audio

> system in the plane...the kids were pretty happy that they

> can now have individual music, and yet share a movie

> and do it all via Bluetooth.

>

> -- 

> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

>

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:24 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

I'd have to say that both companies have provided extremely

good service for me.  Lightspeed was great to work with in

regards to they even sent me the thicker headpad a few minutes

BEFORE I actually ordered the headset from Aircraft Spruce.

I don't still have the headset...I actually took almost

an $80 hit to return it...but I wouldn't have been happy

being stuck.  I've heard most people have great support

from Lightspeed. The only complaint was that on the older

plastic "wide-load" headsets, people get great support but

that's because they're constantly sending them in for

repairs to broken parts.



Bose too...at one point, they had a couple versions of

mic, with different gain levels. I wanted the other

ones, and they paid for overnight and 2nd day shipping

to get them to them and back for mic swaps.  At OSH

every year, I walk in and for free, they replace everything

that may have any issue...ear seals, head pad, cord,

cord repair, yoke....anything.  They're really top notch

when it comes to support.  I've never paid a dime for

support for them.  That's actually one reason I am

getting A20's...5 years of warranty and I can look

forward to being catered to at OSH each year if I need

anything.



So from a support standpoint, I think you'll be fine with

either company.  I am happy that Bose is made in the USA.

That really is getting to be an important issue to me.

I am losing respect for TCM, Cirrus, and all those who

are sending things to China from our industry. Enough is

enough...if we want jobs in the USA, we need to keep

making SOMETHING here...and I'm happy to pay 10-20% more

for it, if it's as good or better quality...it's either

that, or they're going to be taking more of my taxes to

help pay for all the people laid off from their jobs, and

I think most people would prefer to actually be happily

working somewhere.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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On 12/29/2010 6:30 PM, Pascal wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 I have to say that Lightspeed has a very fine support group. If you

 still have the headset Tim send it back to them to have it checked. I

 had a problem with my 30-3G that had feedback during runups only, turned

 out it was the CAP 182 issue, and Lightspeed ran it through some test

 and did some fine tuning. They sent me new gel pads on the headset too

 explaining that they saw no issues but the pads might help fill any gaps

 that "may" have caused the issue. They really took an interest in seeing

 this resolved for me even if they couldn't find anything wrong with the

 actual set.

 I was getting worried my Zulu would not be what I expected, glad to see

 the positive feedback on this issue.

 Thanks!

 Pascal

Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:26 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

At least what John says below.  

     

     A factor I've personally played with is sunglass temple style versus     ear muff.  Getting a great seal without glasses is pretty easy on     all of them.  Getting a great seal with various temples is a major     challenge and game changer.  The most effective approach is to     choose your sunglass/eye glass temple style with your headset in     mind.

     

     On 12/29/2010 4:46 PM, John Cox wrote:     [quote]                                     Any             viable comparison should be done with at least two separate             sets of the same model in Head to Head evaluation.  I have a             Decibel meter I can provide to record the base line noise             level of any RV-10 and will get a spectrum analyzer to add             to the establishment of specific RV-10 noise generation. NO             other aircraft need volunteer. I doubt Tim's is noisier than             most except for the dueling MP3 blue tooth "soon to be             teens" in the back seat.

       

       

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aerosport1

Joined: 07 Nov 2007
Posts: 231

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

I thought I would add to the Bose band wagon here. I purchased the new A20s at Oshkosh

I was on the fence between the Zulu's and new Bose. I already had the older Bose. And really

Liked them. I bought the new Bose and on the way home my wife and I compared. I was shocked at the difference. It took me a while to get use to flying with them because they are

So quite. I can hardly here the engine. 

I then had the chance to fly in another rv-10 with the new zulu's and then flew in my airplane right after that. The Bose were still better. I was hoping the zulu's would be as good or better.

Not the case in my opinion. 

I have flown for 10.5 hrs in one day with the new Bose and never new they were on my head.

fWIW

Geoff  

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 29, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 I'd have to say that both companies have provided extremely

 good service for me.  Lightspeed was great to work with in

 regards to they even sent me the thicker headpad a few minutes

 BEFORE I actually ordered the headset from Aircraft Spruce.

 I don't still have the headset...I actually took almost

 an $80 hit to return it...but I wouldn't have been happy

 being stuck.  I've heard most people have great support

 from Lightspeed. The only complaint was that on the older

 plastic "wide-load" headsets, people get great support but

 that's because they're constantly sending them in for

 repairs to broken parts.

 Bose too...at one point, they had a couple versions of

 mic, with different gain levels. I wanted the other

 ones, and they paid for overnight and 2nd day shipping

 to get them to them and back for mic swaps.  At OSH

 every year, I walk in and for free, they replace everything

 that may have any issue...ear seals, head pad, cord,

 cord repair, yoke....anything.  They're really top notch

 when it comes to support.  I've never paid a dime for

 support for them.  That's actually one reason I am

 getting A20's...5 years of warranty and I can look

 forward to being catered to at OSH each year if I need

 anything.

 So from a support standpoint, I think you'll be fine with

 either company.  I am happy that Bose is made in the USA.

 That really is getting to be an important issue to me.

 I am losing respect for TCM, Cirrus, and all those who

 are sending things to China from our industry. Enough is

 enough...if we want jobs in the USA, we need to keep

 making SOMETHING here...and I'm happy to pay 10-20% more

 for it, if it's as good or better quality...it's either

 that, or they're going to be taking more of my taxes to

 help pay for all the people laid off from their jobs, and

 I think most people would prefer to actually be happily

 working somewhere.

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

 do not archive

 On 12/29/2010 6:30 PM, Pascal wrote:

> 

> 

> I have to say that Lightspeed has a very fine support group. If you

> still have the headset Tim send it back to them to have it checked. I

> had a problem with my 30-3G that had feedback during runups only, turned

> out it was the CAP 182 issue, and Lightspeed ran it through some test

> and did some fine tuning. They sent me new gel pads on the headset too

> explaining that they saw no issues but the pads might help fill any gaps

> that "may" have caused the issue. They really took an interest in seeing

> this resolved for me even if they couldn't find anything wrong with the

> actual set.

> I was getting worried my Zulu would not be what I expected, glad to see

> the positive feedback on this issue.

> Thanks!

> Pascal

>

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RV-10 QB N829GW
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

Tim,



If you're in St. Paul and want to try another set of Zulu's out, I have a set with GA plugs you could compare (and it will only cost you a ride!) I started on Bose X's and liked them, but the A2DP is what sold me on the Zulus. 

 

The set I got from Lake and Air at Fleming still has the FRC button on it, and this was the first I heard that they've removed that button. Must have been on the shelf for a while.



Ed Kranz

 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)> wrote:

[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>

 



  

 I did try to love the Zulu's. I was pretty pumped when I

 bought them.  I'd love to wear another pair some day so

 that I can write that they work just as well.  It just

 wasn't the experience I had.  I did have the latest model,

 too...the new ones don't have the FRC button anymore.

 I also really did get some offline replies from a few people

 who said they had the same experience I did....so I can't

 say it's just me.

 

 

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD



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 On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Kevin Belue wrote:

 

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 Tim, you must have a bad Zulu headset. I've been using Zulus in my RV10 for a couple of years now- quietest ones I've used, including Bose. No issues at all....

 

 Sent from my iPhone

 



 On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Tim Olson<Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>  wrote:

 

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		   -->  RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>

 

 I just finished a write-up last night on my most recent

 project. If you have older kids or Teenagers especially

 that will be riding in the back seats of your RV-10, this

 may be something you really find interesting.

 If you rarely use your back seat, or only have one kid,

 you probably could care less.

 

 http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20101228/index.html

 

 I spent a lot of time figuring out what to do, but the

 actual task wasn't too bad.  I really wish I had thought

 of some of these concepts (especially the passive mixer

 for the rear input) when I first wired the plane.

 

 Anyway, I couldn't be more thrilled now with the audio

 system in the plane...the kids were pretty happy that they

 can now have individual music, and yet share a movie

 and do it all via Bluetooth.

 

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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:09 pm Post subject: The Ultimate Audio Entertainment System

I think we can do that Ed!  Let's hope for some good

weather.   The A2DP lacking on the Bose did really

tick me off at first.  I actually called twice, and

wrote in twice, trying to make sure it got escalated

to the project manager that I thought they really were

going to be at a disadvantage if they didn't add that

feature.  For me, it's now a non-issue.  The plane

is wired in even a better way.  But had they been

available, I probably would have gone that route

and saved time.  I should be glad...but still, I hate

to see them offered without a key feature that some

people would love.



 From what I understand, all the FRC buttons are gone

on the latest version.  They basically turn it on by

default now. The music did sound pretty good.

Maybe it's only the newer versions that have ANR

issues? Or, maybe I just ordered one that was built

on Friday in China? 



Ed, if you see a good weather weekend coming, shoot

me an email. It may be a while but we'll find one

where we aren't getting pummeled by snow or ice.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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On 12/29/2010 9:06 PM, Ed Kranz wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Tim,



 If you're in St. Paul and want to try another set of Zulu's out, I have

 a set with GA plugs you could compare (and it will only cost you a

 ride!) I started on Bose X's and liked them, but the A2DP is what sold

 me on the Zulus.



 The set I got from Lake and Air at Fleming still has the FRC button on

 it, and this was the first I heard that they've removed that button.

 Must have been on the shelf for a while.



 Ed Kranz

 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com

 <mailto:Tim(at)myrv10.com>> wrote:



     

     <mailto:Tim(at)myrv10.com>>

     I did try to love the Zulu's. I was pretty pumped when I

     bought them.  I'd love to wear another pair some day so

     that I can write that they work just as well.  It just

     wasn't the experience I had.  I did have the latest model,

     too...the new ones don't have the FRC button anymore.

     I also really did get some offline replies from a few people

     who said they had the same experience I did....so I can't

     say it's just me.



     Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

     do not archive



     On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Kevin Belue wrote:



         

         Belue<kdbelue(at)charter.net <mailto:kdbelue(at)charter.net>>



         Tim, you must have a bad Zulu headset. I've been using Zulus in

         my RV10 for a couple of years now- quietest ones I've used,

         including Bose. No issues at all....



         Sent from my iPhone



         On Dec 29, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Tim Olson<Tim(at)myrv10.com

         <mailto:Tim(at)myrv10.com>>  wrote:

             

             <mailto:Tim(at)myrv10.com>>



             I just finished a write-up last night on my most recent

             project. If you have older kids or Teenagers especially

             that will be riding in the back seats of your RV-10, this

             may be something you really find interesting.

             If you rarely use your back seat, or only have one kid,

             you probably could care less.



             http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20101228/index.html



             I spent a lot of time figuring out what to do, but the

             actual task wasn't too bad.  I really wish I had thought

             of some of these concepts (especially the passive mixer

             for the rear input) when I first wired the plane.



             Anyway, I couldn't be more thrilled now with the audio

             system in the plane...the kids were pretty happy that they

             can now have individual music, and yet share a movie

             and do it all via Bluetooth.



             --

             Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD



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