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60Bubba

Joined: 03 Jan 2011
Posts: 5

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject: New Subscriber Introduction

Hello to all,



I have been lurking around the Lightning List as well as the Lightning websites (Arion's own and Max and Olena's) and finally got around to signing up.  I am a NAVY Helicopter pilot by training (It's OK Buz, some of my best friends are Air Force), but I also enjoy fixed wing flying.  I recently got some refresher training in Pipers, and remembered how disappointing the rental fleet frequently is.  That led me to start looking at buying.  Unfortunately, as you all know, you can't buy much in the certified world for less than the cost of a very nice new home. Enter homebuilts into my scan.



I was (and am) intrigued by the Van's RV line, but I just don't think I have 4-5 years worth of attention span.  After searching the internet high and low, I discovered the Arion Lightning, and think it my be right up my alley.  Built as an EAB, it seems I can get reasonable cruise speeds of over 130KT, while keeping the fuel burn under control.  The build cost seems reasonable, and I like the idea of using a "real" airplane engine, even one with a relatively short history, on this side of the pond at least.



I'm planning to build an IFR capable platform, just to offer a few more flight planning options and the perceived added safety benefit of being able to get myself out of inadvertent IMC.  I'm still trying to determine if this is "legal"  I seem to be getting different info as I research.  Does anyone know if there is a definitive answer to this question?  I'm assuming a properly certified pilot, but I'm not sure about equipment and lightning protection.  Any thoughts would be much appreciated.  



Finally, I wanted to say thanks for all those who contribute to this list and of course the Newsletter.  From the numerous pictures, stories, and Buz's colorful commentary, I feel like I already know many of you.  I look forward to meeting some of you at the Sebring Light Sport Expo.



Cheers,

Case Garrison

lbmathias(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: New Subscriber Introduction

Hi Case,



      My Lightning is IFR-certified; if your airplane meets 91.205 equipment 

requirements, it is legal to fly IFR.

I have a Chelton Sport system with backup airspeed, attitude, altimeter, and 

a heated pitot tube.  Good luck in your build; I definitely recommend the 

builder assistance program if you want to finish quickly.



Linda Mathias





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N1BZRich(at)AOL.COM
Guest

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:44 pm Post subject: New Subscriber Introduction

Welcome aboard, Case.  I'm sure the entire Lightning community will  welcome you to our esteemed group even though you are a Navy "chopper"  pilot.     Now that you have discovered the  Lightning, your fixed wing flying is about to become a lot more fun.   Where are you stationed?  Perhaps a current Lightning flyer is near you and  can provide a flight.  

  

 I just noticed that Linda has answered your question about an IFR certified  Lightning.  As far as I know, she has the only currently flying  Lightning that is IFR certified.   I considered getting my Esqual IFR  certified when I first built it and even called both the Atlanta and the  Richmond FISDO offices to ask what extra equipment would be required in addition  to the equipment I currently had.  Both of them said a heated pitot tube  would be required and one office (can't remember which) also said that a VOR nav  system would be required to back up the installed GPS.  

  

 Good luck on your project.  We are happy to have you join our group  and thank you for your service to our country.  

 Blue Skies,

 Buz Rich

  

  In a message dated 1/7/2011 10:10:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  casegarrison(at)att.net writes:

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		  -->    Lightning-List message posted by: "60Bubba"    <casegarrison(at)att.net>



Hello to all,



I have been lurking    around the Lightning List as well as the Lightning websites (Arion's own and    Max and Olena's) and finally got around to signing up.  I am a NAVY    Helicopter pilot by training (It's OK Buz, some of my best friends are Air    Force), but I also enjoy fixed wing flying.  I recently got some    refresher training in Pipers, and remembered how disappointing the rental    fleet frequently is.  That led me to start looking at buying.     Unfortunately, as you all know, you can't buy much in the certified world for    less than the cost of a very nice new home. Enter homebuilts into my    scan.



I was (and am) intrigued by the Van's RV line, but I just don't    think I have 4-5 years worth of attention span.  After searching the    internet high and low, I discovered the Arion Lightning, and think it my be    right up my alley.  Built as an EAB, it seems I can get reasonable cruise    speeds of over 130KT, while keeping the fuel burn under control.  The    build cost seems reasonable, and I like the idea of using a "real" airplane    engine, even one with a relatively short history, on this side of the pond at    least.



I'm planning to build an IFR capable platform, just to offer a    few more flight planning options and the perceived added safety benefit of    being able to get myself out of inadvertent IMC.  I'm still trying to    determine if this is "legal"  I seem to be getting different info as I    research.  Does anyone know if there is a definitive answer to this    question?  I'm assuming a properly certified pilot, but I'm not sure    about equipment and lightning protection.  Any thoughts would be much    appreciated.  



Finally, I wanted to say thanks for all those who    contribute to this list and of course the Newsletter.  From the numerous    pictures, stories, and Buz's colorful commentary, I feel like I already know    many of you.  I look forward to meeting some of you at the Sebring Light    Sport Expo.



Cheers,

Case Garrison





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n45bm(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:45 pm Post subject: New Subscriber Introduction

Where are you located Case? I think that we that subscribe to this list should start naming our location, just in case a builder, or wanna be builder, wants to see what lurks in your workshop.

Bernardo Melendez, kit #110

Houston, in the great state of Texas



--- On Fri, 1/7/11, 60Bubba <casegarrison(at)att.net> wrote:

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From: 60Bubba <casegarrison(at)att.net>

Subject: New Subscriber Introduction

To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 9:07 PM



--> Lightning-List message posted by: "60Bubba" <[url=/mc/compose?to=casegarrison(at)att.net]casegarrison(at)att.net[/url]>



Hello to all,



I have been  lurking around the Lightning List as well as the Lightning websites (Arion's own and Max and Olena's) and finally got around to signing up.  I am a NAVY Helicopter pilot by training (It's OK Buz, some of my best friends are Air Force), but I also enjoy fixed wing flying.  I recently got some refresher training in Pipers, and remembered how disappointing the rental fleet frequently is.  That led me to start looking at buying.  Unfortunately, as you all know, you can't buy much in the certified world for less than the cost of a very nice new home. Enter homebuilts into my scan.



I was (and am) intrigued by the Van's RV line, but I just don't think I have 4-5 years worth of attention span.  After searching the internet high and low, I discovered the Arion Lightning, and think it my be right up my alley.  Built as an EAB, it seems I can get reasonable cruise speeds of over 130KT, while keeping the fuel burn under  control.  The build cost seems reasonable, and I like the idea of using a "real" airplane engine, even one with a relatively short history, on this side of the pond at least.



I'm planning to build an IFR capable platform, just to offer a few more flight planning options and the perceived added safety benefit of being able to get myself out of inadvertent IMC.  I'm still trying to determine if this is "legal"  I seem to be getting different info as I research.  Does anyone know if there is a definitive answer to this question?  I'm assuming a properly certified pilot, but I'm not sure about equipment and lightning protection.  Any thoughts would be much appreciated.  



Finally, I wanted to say thanks for all those who contribute to this list and of course the Newsletter.  From the numerous pictures, stories, and Buz's colorful commentary, I feel like I already know many of you.  I look forward to  meeting some of you at the Sebring Light Sport Expo.



Cheers,

Case Garrison





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60Bubba

Joined: 03 Jan 2011
Posts: 5

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:35 am Post subject: Re: New Subscriber Introduction

First off, thanks for the responses and prompt welcome!  It's nice to know there are folks checking the board regularly.  Linda: Thanks for the info on the IFR issue.  As for the VOR, someone I spoke to (Pete (at) Arion??) mentioned the FAA recently changed the wording of the IFR requirements section to remove the reference to "ground stations".  This seems to indicate that they were giving a nod to the capabilities of GPS.  That said, I plan to go with a GNS 430 hooked up to my EFIS, so I'll have the benefit of both.  Now to figure out what to use as a backup if the GPS goes poof....



I am in Jacksonville, FL for about another month completing my SH-60B refresher syllabus.  After that, I head back to sunny San Diego, CA.

voroninmax(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:59 am Post subject: New Subscriber Introduction

Hi Case, 

Came back from Miami last night, so have a look at your schedule and we'll go flying.

 The book did indeed change from "ground facilities to be used" to "equipment appropriate for the proposed route" two years ago, but, as discussed, in order to file as /G you need a certified GPS - 430 in your example.

  As a suggestion, make an allowance for a 3G iPad with ForeFlight software in your budget - that thing rocks as an EFB either VFR or IFR.

 Best, 

Max  

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 First off, thanks for the responses and prompt welcome!  It's nice to know there are folks checking the board regularly.  Linda: Thanks for the info on the IFR issue.  As for the VOR, someone I spoke to (Pete (at) Arion??) mentioned the FAA recently changed the wording of the IFR requirements section to remove the reference to "ground stations".  This seems to indicate that they were giving a nod to the capabilities of GPS.  That said, I plan to go with a GNS 430 hooked up to my EFIS, so I'll have the benefit of both.  Now to figure out what to use as a backup if the GPS goes poof....

  

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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:26 am Post subject: New Subscriber Introduction

Hey Case: I have to agree with your decision on airplanes. I have owned 6  Bonanzas as the primary way for my family to see everyone while on leave (I flew  SH-3's). I am sure San Diego has changed a lot since I was last stationed there.  I live in Frostproof FL, and plan to be at Sebring so hope to meet you. If Max  does not complete your ride before then (and even if he does) lets plan to go  aviating while you are in Sebring.

 Lynn Nelsen

 N13LN    Frostproof Fl 863 635 7916 H 863 241 1988  C

  

  In a message dated 1/8/2011 7:38:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  casegarrison(at)att.net writes:

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First off, thanks for the responses and    prompt welcome!  It's nice to know there are folks checking the board    regularly.  Linda: Thanks for the info on the IFR issue.  As for the    VOR, someone I spoke to (Pete (at) Arion??) mentioned the FAA recently changed    the wording of the IFR requirements section to remove the reference to "ground    stations".  This seems to indicate that they were giving a nod to the    capabilities of GPS.  That said, I plan to go with a GNS 430 hooked up to    my EFIS, so I'll have the benefit of both.  Now to figure out what to use    as a backup if the GPS goes poof....



I am in Jacksonville, FL for about    another month completing my SH-60B refresher syllabus.  After that, I    head back to sunny San Diego, CA.





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EAFerguson(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject: New Subscriber Introduction

Welcome aboard Chase,

  

 We need some more Navy to counter Buz's AF swagger.

  

 Earl Ferguson

 Capt USNR (Ret)

 VP/VS pilot

  

 In a message dated 1/7/2011 10:10:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  casegarrison(at)att.net writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Hello to    all,



I have been lurking around the Lightning List as well as the    Lightning websites (Arion's own and Max and Olena's) and finally got around to    signing up.  I am a NAVY Helicopter pilot by training (It's OK Buz, some    of my best friends are Air Force), but I also enjoy fixed wing flying.  I    recently got some refresher training in Pipers, and remembered how    disappointing the rental fleet frequently is.  That led me to start    looking at buying.  Unfortunately, as you all know, you can't buy much in    the certified world for less than the cost of a very nice new home. Enter    homebuilts into my scan.



	


 

  

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60Bubba

Joined: 03 Jan 2011
Posts: 5

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:07 am Post subject: Re: New Subscriber Introduction

 	  EAFerguson(at)AOL.COM wrote: 	
		  Welcome aboard Chase,

  

 We need some more Navy to counter Buz's AF swagger.

  

 Earl Ferguson

 Capt USNR (Ret)

 VP/VS pilot

  

	


 

 From what I saw over in Qatar, if the cappuccino machine was out or the beds were lumpy, the swagger faded pretty quickly.  Not sure if they were soft, or we just haven't figured out proper deployment living yet...  



Lynn,



I definitely look forward to meeting you at the Light Sport Expo.  I'll be looking for the blue and gold!

N1BZRich(at)AOL.COM
Guest

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject: New Subscriber Introduction

In a message dated 1/9/2011 12:10:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  casegarrison(at)att.net writes:

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		  We need some more Navy to counter Buz's AF    swagger. 	
 Sorry, Earl and Case, but there will never be enough to counter my  swagger.  By the way, is it true what they say; "The Marine Corp is the  men's department of the Navy"?

 Blue Skies guys,

 Buz

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Kayberg(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: New Subscriber Introduction

Did you know it is now forbidden for members of the Marine Corps to go  elephant hunting?

  

 It seems too many of them were getting hernias from moving the  decoys.

  

 Doug K.

  

 In a message dated 1/9/2011 9:50:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  N1BZRich(at)AOL.COM writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		     In a message dated 1/9/2011 12:10:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,    casegarrison(at)att.net writes:

    	  Quote: 	
		  We need some more Navy to counter Buz's AF      swagger. 	
   Sorry, Earl and Case, but there will never be enough to counter my    swagger.  By the way, is it true what they say; "The Marine Corp is the    men's department of the Navy"?

   Blue Skies guys,

   Buz

	


 

  

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