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rv10rob(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:51 am Post subject: Crow Harnesses

Anyone using the Crow seatbelts in their -10?  When I ordered mine, I didn't specify and dimensions--I just said I needed a complete set for the RV-10, since I understand they've done a few.  Having now installed mine, the shoulder straps seem to be too short between the latch and the "Y".  See the attached pictures.  The "Y" is right on top of the headrest.  I could move that back a few inches, but then the shoulder pads would be in the wrong place.  Something doesn't seem right here--any ideas?

   

 -Rob

 

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject: Crow Harnesses

Rob, I agree that the pads could be a little more forward.  In the first 

picture it looks like you're leaning forward a little to put tension on 

the harness.  Either that or you have a serious shoulder/back problem!!!

If it was me, I'd move the 'Y' forward a little and then take the slack 

out by pulling on the adjustment for the shoulder belts.  The shoulder 

harness should be adjusted so that in your 'cruise' seat position with 

the harness just a little slack from snug (yeah, go ahead and measure 

that!) you can reach all the stuff on the panel that you need to ..... 

without having to twist the upper torso very much.  The only problem 

moving the 'Y' forward is that it causes the shoulder belts to rub the 

side of the neck.  This is a problem I have in my Pitts, and the 

solution was the shoulder pads for car shoulder belts.  Nice and soft on 

the neck now.  But you'd hate to just cover up the pads you paid so 

dearly for.

Linn



On 2/4/2011 2:25 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Anyone using the Crow seatbelts in their -10?  When I ordered mine, I 

 didn't specify and dimensions--I just said I needed a complete set for 

 the RV-10, since I understand they've done a few.  Having now 

 installed mine, the shoulder straps seem to be too short between the 

 latch and the "Y".  See the attached pictures.  The "Y" is right on 

 top of the headrest.  I could move that back a few inches, but then 

 the shoulder pads would be in the wrong place.  Something doesn't seem 

 right here--any ideas?

 -Rob



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 Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)

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rv10rob(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:44 am Post subject: Crow Harnesses

Thanks, Linn... I sometimes do slouch quite a bit, which is probably what you're seeing.  I did some adusting, per your recommendaton, and I think it'll work.

  

 Now I just need to figure out what seat position I want to fly it in.

  

 -Rob

 On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

 [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net (pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net)>

 

Rob, I agree that the pads could be a little more forward.  In the first picture it looks like you're leaning forward a little to put tension on the harness.  Either that or you have a serious shoulder/back problem!!!

 If it was me, I'd move the 'Y' forward a little and then take the slack out by pulling on the adjustment for the shoulder belts.  The shoulder harness should be adjusted so that in your 'cruise' seat position with the harness just a little slack from snug (yeah, go ahead and measure that!) you can reach all the stuff on the panel that you need to ..... without having to twist the upper torso very much.  The only problem moving the 'Y' forward is that it causes the shoulder belts to rub the side of the neck.  This is a problem I have in my Pitts, and the solution was the shoulder pads for car shoulder belts.  Nice and soft on the neck now.  But you'd hate to just cover up the pads you paid so dearly for.

 Linn   

 



On 2/4/2011 2:25 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Anyone using the Crow seatbelts in their -10?  When I ordered mine, I didn't specify and dimensions--I just said I needed a complete set for the RV-10, since I understand they've done a few.  Having now installed mine, the shoulder straps seem to be too short between the latch and the "Y".  See the attached pictures.  The "Y" is right on top of the headrest.  I could move that back a few inches, but then the shoulder pads would be in the wrong place.  Something doesn't seem right here--any ideas?

 -Rob



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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Crow Harnesses

Rob;



    Attached is the US Transportation AC21-34, a take on the GA safety belt restraint systems.

Conrad B.

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dlm34077(at)q.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: Crow Harnesses

The option I used.



www.inertialbelts.com



I could supply some installed pictures if needed. Contact me offlist.



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rv10rob(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject: Crow Harnesses

Thanks, guys... I'm having second thoughts with my "good enough" assessment from the other day.  The belts feel fine, but it seems like the geometry is off, with the shoulder straps essentially coming from the top-center of the headrest.  I think I'm going to call and have them re-make the front seat shoulder straps.  There's also *way* too much extra strap (around 3 feet) when I have them adjusted, so something is clearly not right.  Maybe when I said "RV-10" they assumed all RVs are the same?  Not really sure what's going on, but this is something that needs to be done right.

   

 DAR inspection in 13 days.  Not exactly what I want to be messing with now...

  

 -Rob

 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:34 PM, DLM <dlm34077(at)q.com (dlm34077(at)q.com)> wrote:

 [quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "DLM" <dlm34077(at)q.com (dlm34077(at)q.com)>

 

The option I used.



www.inertialbelts.com



I could supply some installed pictures if needed. Contact me offlist.



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jchang10

Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 227

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: Crow Harnesses

Let us know what they say. Ordering the same harnesses is near the top 

of my todo list.



Jae

40533



On 2/7/2011 6:01 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Thanks, guys... I'm having second thoughts with my "good enough" 

 assessment from the other day.  The belts feel fine, but it seems like 

 the geometry is off, with the shoulder straps essentially coming from 

 the top-center of the headrest.  I think I'm going to call and have 

 them re-make the front seat shoulder straps.  There's also *way* too 

 much extra strap (around 3 feet) when I have them adjusted, so 

 something is clearly not right.  Maybe when I said "RV-10" they 

 assumed all RVs are the same?  Not really sure what's going on, but 

 this is something that needs to be done right.

 DAR inspection in 13 days.  Not exactly what I want to be messing with 

 now...

 -Rob

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