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bbradburry(at)bellsouth.n
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 Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:22 am Post subject: GPS Jamming |
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Someone please tell me this is not true!
Bill B
FCC Approves GPS-jamming transmitters
Federal Communications Commission gives the green light to 40,000 broadband transmitters that would cripple GPS navigation.
26 January 2011 — The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has approved a company called LightSquared Communications to install up to 40,000 high-powered, land-based broadband transmitters that broadcast in the band directly adjacent to the GPS frequencies. It has been found that these transmitters would have a disastrous effect upon aviation GPS receivers such as the popular Garmin GNS 430W. In testing, the receivers began to be jammed at 13.8 miles from each transmitter site, and navigation was effectively shut down at 5.6 miles from each site. Automotive units such as the Nuvi did a little better.
The approval was moved rapidly through the approval process, and the approval was made despite industry representatives' pleas to evaluate the transmitters further.
[ Read the Full Article >> ]
More information, including contact numbers for the lawmakers who are involved in the approval process can be found here: GPS Community Urged to Contact Congress.
The FCC's Chief of the International Bureau, Mindel De La Torre, was not swayed by the protests of the GPS manufacturers; perhaps she would be influenced by a whole bunch of respectful, concerned citizens who wrote to her at Mindel.DeLaTorre(at)fcc.gov (Mindel.DeLaTorre(at)fcc.gov), or called her office at 202-418-0437.
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harley(at)agelesswings.co
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:45 am Post subject: GPS Jamming |
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This is partially true...the interference possibilities were discovered during the required lab testing of the devices, and none have yet been deployed.
The FCC is looking into this and is requiring Lightsquared to correct the matter before deploying the devices. They have until June 15th to reply.
Here's an excerpt from the FCC statement:
"LightSquared is further required to submit a final report no later than June 15, 2011, that includes the working group’s analyses of the potential for overload interference to GPS devices from LightSquared’s terrestrial network of base stations, technical and operational steps to avoid such interference, and specific recommendations going forward to mitigate potential interference to GPS devices. The Bureau reserves the right to adjust the reporting dates and requirements in consultation with NTIA. The process will be complete once the Commission, after consultation with NTIA, concludes that the harmful interference concerns have been resolved and sends a letter to LightSquared stating that the process is complete.”
Harley
On 2/8/2011 9:15 AM, Bill Bradburry wrote: [quote]
Someone please tell me this is not true!
Bill B
FCC Approves GPS-jamming transmitters
Federal Communications Commission gives the green light to 40,000 broadband transmitters that would cripple GPS navigation.
26 January 2011 — The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has approved a company called LightSquared Communications to install up to 40,000 high-powered, land-based broadband transmitters that broadcast in the band directly adjacent to the GPS frequencies. It has been found that these transmitters would have a disastrous effect upon aviation GPS receivers such as the popular Garmin GNS 430W. In testing, the receivers began to be jammed at 13.8 miles from each transmitter site, and navigation was effectively shut down at 5.6 miles from each site. Automotive units such as the Nuvi did a little better.
The approval was moved rapidly through the approval process, and the approval was made despite industry representatives' pleas to evaluate the transmitters further.
[ Read the Full Article >> ]
More information, including contact numbers for the lawmakers who are involved in the approval process can be found here: GPS Community Urged to Contact Congress.
The FCC's Chief of the International Bureau, Mindel De La Torre, was not swayed by the protests of the GPS manufacturers; perhaps she would be influenced by a whole bunch of respectful, concerned citizens who wrote to her at Mindel.DeLaTorre(at)fcc.gov (Mindel.DeLaTorre(at)fcc.gov), or called her office at 202-418-0437.
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Float Flyr
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:55 am Post subject: GPS Jamming |
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They will be shut down with the first lawsuit. It is illegal for anyone with or without a license to interrupt a radio signal. I expect there is further legislation preventing the jamming of navigational radio aids. There was very strict regulations regarding the operation of radio in the 160 Meter band because of the possibility of interfering with LORAN C.
Noel
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: February 8, 2011 10:46 AM
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Subject: GPS Jamming
Someone please tell me this is not true!
Bill B
FCC Approves GPS-jamming transmitters
Federal Communications Commission gives the green light to 40,000 broadband transmitters that would cripple GPS navigation.
26 January 2011 — The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has approved a company called LightSquared Communications to install up to 40,000 high-powered, land-based broadband transmitters that broadcast in the band directly adjacent to the GPS frequencies. It has been found that these transmitters would have a disastrous effect upon aviation GPS receivers such as the popular Garmin GNS 430W. In testing, the receivers began to be jammed at 13.8 miles from each transmitter site, and navigation was effectively shut down at 5.6 miles from each site. Automotive units such as the Nuvi did a little better.
The approval was moved rapidly through the approval process, and the approval was made despite industry representatives' pleas to evaluate the transmitters further.
[ Read the Full Article >> ]
More information, including contact numbers for the lawmakers who are involved in the approval process can be found here: GPS Community Urged to Contact Congress.
The FCC's Chief of the International Bureau, Mindel De La Torre, was not swayed by the protests of the GPS manufacturers; perhaps she would be influenced by a whole bunch of respectful, concerned citizens who wrote to her at Mindel.DeLaTorre(at)fcc.gov, or called her office at 202-418-0437.
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sportav8r(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: GPS Jamming |
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I think it's only illegal if the FCC says it is. They can authorize whatever they want. The restrictions in Top Band to protect Loran-A were placed by the FCC, and were always subject to their whim. If the FCC allows 4G jammers into service, a lawsuit would have little standing that I can see. It's their sand box. We citizens play in it at their pleasure, or so they think. Which raises a question: should not 11 meters have been called "Subjects' Band?"
Bill B
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Noel Loveys <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)> wrote:
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They will be shut down with the first lawsuit. It is illegal for anyone with or without a license to interrupt a radio signal. I expect there is further legislation preventing the jamming of navigational radio aids. There was very strict regulations regarding the operation of radio in the 160 Meter band because of the possibility of interfering with LORAN C.
Noel
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: February 8, 2011 10:46 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: GPS Jamming
Someone please tell me this is not true!
Bill B
FCC Approves GPS-jamming transmitters
Federal Communications Commission gives the green light to 40,000 broadband transmitters that would cripple GPS navigation.
26 January 2011 — The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has approved a company called LightSquared Communications to install up to 40,000 high-powered, land-based broadband transmitters that broadcast in the band directly adjacent to the GPS frequencies. It has been found that these transmitters would have a disastrous effect upon aviation GPS receivers such as the popular Garmin GNS 430W. In testing, the receivers began to be jammed at 13.8 miles from each transmitter site, and navigation was effectively shut down at 5.6 miles from each site. Automotive units such as the Nuvi did a little better.
The approval was moved rapidly through the approval process, and the approval was made despite industry representatives' pleas toevaluate the transmitters further.
[ Read the Full Article >> ]
More information, including contact numbers for the lawmakers who are involved in the approval process can be found here: GPS Community Urged to Contact Congress.
The FCC's Chief of the International Bureau, Mindel De La Torre, was not swayed by the protests of the GPS manufacturers; perhaps she would be influenced by a whole bunch of respectful, concerned citizens who wrote to her at Mindel.DeLaTorre(at)fcc.gov, or called her office at 202-418-0437.
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Float Flyr
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:56 am Post subject: GPS Jamming |
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As you say it’s their sand box but they still have to play by the rules they laid down.
Noel
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Boyd
Sent: February 8, 2011 2:39 PM
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I think it's only illegal if the FCC says it is. They can authorize whatever they want. The restrictions in Top Band to protect Loran-A were placed by the FCC, and were always subject to their whim. If the FCC allows 4G jammers into service, a lawsuit would have little standing that I can see. It's their sand box. We citizens play in it at their pleasure, or so they think. Which raises a question: should not 11 meters have been called "Subjects' Band?"
Bill B
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Noel Loveys <noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)> wrote:
They will be shut down with the first lawsuit. It is illegal for anyone with or without a license to interrupt a radio signal. I expect there is further legislation preventing the jamming of navigational radio aids. There was very strict regulations regarding the operation of radio in the 160 Meter band because of the possibility of interfering with LORAN C.
Noel
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: February 8, 2011 10:46 AM
To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: GPS Jamming
Someone please tell me this is not true!
Bill B
FCC Approves GPS-jamming transmitters
Federal Communications Commission gives the green light to 40,000 broadband transmitters that would cripple GPS navigation.
26 January 2011 — The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has approved a company called LightSquared Communications to install up to 40,000 high-powered, land-based broadband transmitters that broadcast in the band directly adjacent to the GPS frequencies. It has been found that these transmitters would have a disastrous effect upon aviation GPS receivers such as the popular Garmin GNS 430W. In testing, the receivers began to be jammed at 13.8 miles from each transmitter site, and navigation was effectively shut down at 5.6 miles from each site. Automotive units such as the Nuvi did a little better.
The approval was moved rapidly through the approval process, and the approval was made despite industry representatives' pleas to evaluate the transmitters further.
[ Read the Full Article >> ]
More information, including contact numbers for the lawmakers who are involved in the approval process can be found here: GPS Community Urged to Contact Congress.
The FCC's Chief of the International Bureau, Mindel De La Torre, was not swayed by the protests of the GPS manufacturers; perhaps she would be influenced by a whole bunch of respectful, concerned citizens who wrote to her at Mindel.DeLaTorre(at)fcc.gov, or called her office at 202-418-0437.
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As you say it’s their sand box but they still have to play by the rules they laid down.
Noel
NO, you forget that this is the government. Only you have to play by their rules, not them!
Roger
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ainut(at)knology.net
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:44 am Post subject: GPS Jamming |
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Actually, it is OUR sandbox that we pay them to keep open and safe.
David
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Noel
NO, you forget that this is the government. Only you have to
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Actually, it is OUR sandbox that we pay them to keep open and safe.
David
You are right, it is OUR sandbox, but they make all the
decisions. Like the rest of our government, They know what is best for us,
so we should just shut up and do as we are told.
Roger
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:58 pm Post subject: GPS Jamming |
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Actually, don't you think that the Dept of Defense that owns the GPS Satellites trumps the FCC. after all they have a secretary of defense that has a big presence in the cabinet. The FCC sits way down the list.
My $.02
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: GPS Jamming |
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Good point... they (the bureaucrats ) only think it's their box... And their laws. Every now and again the courts have to set them straight... even up here in the Great White North
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