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rleffler
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 Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:44 pm Post subject: Cowl Fasteners |
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I was talking to a recently flying RV-10 pilot who just removed his top cowl hinges along the firewall because of some blow back from the hinge opening. Another RV-10 I just saw, the paint is starting to crack around the hinge area.
I’m curious if any of the flying RV-10s that installed either the standard hinges or camlocs wished they made a different decision?
Thanks,
Bob
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speckter(at)comcast.net
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:04 pm Post subject: Cowl Fasteners |
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I like my hinges. I do get some staining if I fly through rain, but got that with cam-locs on other planes too.
Gary Specketer
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 4:34 PM
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Subject: Cowl Fasteners
I was talking to a recently flying RV-10 pilot who just removed his top cowl hinges along the firewall because of some blow back from the hinge opening. Another RV-10 I just saw, the paint is starting to crack around the hinge area.
I’m curious if any of the flying RV-10s that installed either the standard hinges or camlocs wished they made a different decision?
Thanks,
Bob
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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:41 pm Post subject: Cowl Fasteners |
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I have camlocs everywhere except the aft edge of the lower cowl. I
wish I'd put them there, too, more for the ease of operation and not
so much the sealing. I think most people end up going to screws for
the bottom near the exhaust pipes. I had to because the hinges kept
failing.
Also, behind the prop you pretty much have to use screws. Everything
else I've seen people try--hinges, camlocs, etc--always ends up too
loose.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I was talking to a recently flying RV-10 pilot who just removed his top cowl
hinges along the firewall because of some blow back from the hinge opening.
Another RV-10 I just saw, the paint is starting to crack around the hinge
area.
I’m curious if any of the flying RV-10s that installed either the standard
hinges or camlocs wished they made a different decision?
Thanks,
Bob
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:01 pm Post subject: Cowl Fasteners |
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Same here....I get some now in rain and did in my last plane with camloks too.
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I like my hinges. I do get some staining if I fly through rain, but got that with cam-locs on other planes too.
Gary Specketer
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 4:34 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Cowl Fasteners
I was talking to a recently flying RV-10 pilot who just removed his top cowl hinges along the firewall because of some blow back from the hinge opening. Another RV-10 I just saw, the paint is starting to crack around the hinge area.
I’m curious if any of the flying RV-10s that installed either the standard hinges or camlocs wished they made a different decision?
Thanks,
Bob
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dlm34077(at)q.com
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: Cowl Fasteners |
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Everywhere on the 10 where you have rivets in fiberglass, you should consider laying a layer of glass or glass tape as these will work their way through the paint in a hundred hours or so. The blinds holding the top on and the solids holding the cowl hinges come to mind... How do I know? I did this on every spot on the Glastar but one. I missed the 4 solids holding the oil door on. A hundred hours later the heads of the rivets could be seen emerging through the paint.
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greghale
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Cowl Fasteners |
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I used the SkyBolt camlocs on the RV10. They are great for fiberglass. They adjust in or out to compensate for various thickness. I used these on the RV8.
Greg...
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robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com
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| Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:45 am Post subject: Cowl Fasteners |
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I like my camlocks but would avoid placing them on the underside of the cowl. Just too much shaking, oil, exhaust going on down there. Unless you keep extras in the plane and in your hangar ($$) you will find yourself missing one (or more) at some point. Just about the exact time you need to fly some place. Often involves pulling everything off to replace.
I prefer Tinnerman washers & S/S screws. The best $0.05 solution
Ask me how I know…
Robin
4 RV’s & counting…
Robin
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I used the SkyBolt camlocs on the RV10. They are great for fiberglass. They adjust in or out to compensate for various thickness. I used these on the RV8.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:54 am Post subject: Cowl Fasteners |
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I have 2000 plus hours on my RV8 with the Skybolt cam lock fasteners and a Sam James Cowl.and ;plenum. There is nothing better. Cowl can be removed and reinstalled in 2 to 3 minutes. Nothing comes loose and no ratteling. I never hesitate to remove and check engine etc. because of the ease of removing and reinstalling.
Dick Martin
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On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Bob Leffler <rv(at)thelefflers.com (rv(at)thelefflers.com)> wrote:
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I was talking to a recently flying RV-10 pilot who just removed his top cowl hinges along the firewall because of some blow back from the hinge opening. Another RV-10 I just saw, the paint is starting to crack around the hinge area.
I’m curious if any of the flying RV-10s that installed either the standard hinges or camlocs wished they made a different decision?
Thanks,
Bob
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AirMike
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:35 pm Post subject: Cowl Fasteners |
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I have Skybolt Camlocks on the back of the upper cowl. I use the hinge/skewer system to join the upper and lower cowls and plain old #10 SS Screws and nutplates on the back of the lower cowl. It all seems to work well and seems to be holding up fine.
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