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Chiar daca momentan nu ai nevoie, nici nu stii cand ai avea nevoie in viitor.
In plus sunt unii, care au nevoie, dar nu stiu de acest sondaj.
Si de ce sa nu ajutam sa se extinda afacerea aceea in RO?
E clar, ca cei, ce au pornit sondajul, au plus Clujul, alaturi de alte destinatii cu potential maxim, pe care le iau in calcul in mod serios.

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Od: Tiberiu Iosub <tiberiu.iosub(at)emirates.com>
Předmět: [Aviatia.ro] vot
Datum: 16.2.2011 08:17:53
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noi putem sa ne mobilizam sa-i taiem pe toti la vot dar cred ca este fair sa voteze doar cei care cred ca vor utiliza acea ruta altfel castigam doar un poll
este doar o parere
tiberiu



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Messages 1. radu_28(at)yahoo.com ([email]radu_28(at)yahoo.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20vot[/email]) radu_28 Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:09 am (PST)

Desi probabil 99% din cei de pe lista habar n-au ce-i Charleroi (un fel de
orasul Motru), este al doilea aeroport din Belgia, cu specific integral low
cost. Intr-o vreme era modelul de low cost airport de prin Europa. Invit pe
oricine doreste sa voteze pt alegerea unei noi rute de la CRL, printre optiunile
din lista gasindu-se Cluj. Votul e in josul paginii.

Cu surprindere si placere constat ca daca romanii se mobilizeaza ii taie si pe
polonezi si pe tot restul. Succes la vot:

http://www.charleroi-airport.com/en/brussels-south-charleroi-airport/index.html
(scroll down pana la mesaj)

R
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2. aviatia_ro(at)yahoo.com ([email]aviatia_ro(at)yahoo.com?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Amabasada%20SUA%20la%20Bucuresti%3A%20%22Ministry%20of%20Transportation%20and%20the%20Prim[/email]) aviatia_ro Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:03 pm (PST)

Domnul care semneaza documentul este: "Nicholas Frank Taubman, a United States
businessman, politician, and ambassador. He served as the United States
Ambassador to Romania2005–08"
08BUCHAREST608, ROMANIA: BOEING SETS UP FOR A 1 BILLION DOLLAR DEAL
Reference ID Created Released Classification Origin
08BUCHAREST608 2008-07-31 12:12 2011-02-09 21:09 SECRET//NOFORN
Embassy Bucharest

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FM AMEMBASSY BUCHAREST
TO RUCPDOC/DEPT OF COMMERCE WASHINGTON DC IMMEDIATE
RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 8548
INFO RUEHZL/EUROPEAN POLITICAL COLLECTIVE IMMEDIATE
S E C R E T BUCHAREST 000608

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STATE PLEASE PASS TO EUR/CE ASCHEIBE

COMMERCE PLEASE PASS TO ITA KNAJDI

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/30/2018

TAGS: EAIR ECON PGOV RO
SUBJECT: ROMANIA: BOEING SETS UP FOR A 1 BILLION DOLLAR DEAL

REF: BUCHAREST 362

Classified By: DCM Jeri Guthrie-Corn for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).

¶1. (C/NF) Summary. The Regional Boeing sales representative

advised the Ambassador of plans for a multi-plane deal to

sell new Boeing 737s to TAROM, the Romanian state owned

airline. From Boeing's perspective the 737s fit naturally

into TAROM's existing fleet structure and will support

TAROM's future expansion plans. Operationally and

strategically, Boeing believes that 737s are a better fit for

TAROM than the competition. The deal could result in selling

up to ten aircraft plus additional options to TAROM and

Boeing is valuing the potential deal at close to USD 1

Billion. However, Boeing is worried about reports that EADS

does not plan to compete fairly and that they may attempt to

improperly influence key government officials to favor Airbus.

¶2. (S/NF) In a meeting on July 25th with the Ambassador, the

regional Boeing representative, Monte Frazier, shared an

allegation that EADS may have offered 3 percent of the sales

price of any eventual Airbus purchase as bribes to officials

in the Romanian Government. Frazier has been a frequent

visitor to Bucharest over the last several months, and

recently helped Romanian low-cost carrier Blue Air complete

the purchase of several next generation 737 aircraft. He has

built good contacts with the senior management of TAROM and

believes that these managers are favorably inclined toward

purchasing 737s from Boeing. However, these same TAROM

managers preferred to wait until they were able to meet

privately with senior Boeing executives outside of Romania at

the Farnborough Air Show to report allegations that officials

in the Ministry of Transportation and the Prime Minister's

office have been offered bribes to force TAROM to buy new

aircraft from EADS.

¶3. (SBU) The business rationale for TAROM to choose Boeing

is considerable. reftel reported on TAROM's hodgepodge fleet

mix, which includes B-737s, A-310s, A-318s, plus smaller

regional turboprops. TAROM has subsequently signed a lease

deal for four new 737 aircraft to fill immediate fleet needs.

This will make 737s the predominant aircraft type in the

fleet when the new leased planes enter service. According to

Boeing, the range, size, and fuel efficiency of 737s make

them the best possible aircraft for a regional carrier like

TAROM. As an added benefit, the parts and flight crew

certifications are standardized across the 737 line, making

an exclusively 737 fleet cheaper and more flexible from an

operations standpoint. TAROM is already able to offer a full

suite of 737 repair services at their certified maintenance

facility, which provides additional cost justifications for

sticking with the 737 airframe.

¶4. (C/NF) Comment. Post has offered our support to Boeing

and agreed to advocate for Boeing with the GOR, when it

becomes appropriate, to ensure that Boeing's eventual bid is

given all due consideration. Setting aside allegations of

bribery, the political pressure on Romania to pick a European

airframe is considerable. The fact that 4 leased Boeing

planes have been added into the fleet, may actually lend

weight to the argument that it is now Airbus's turn to garner

a sale, despite the fact that a mixed fleet raises costs and

creates operational difficulties for TAROM. Boeing seems

prepared to make the argument that 737s make the most

business sense for TAROM, and they are planning on an all-out

effort to ensure their eventual success in concluding a sale.

Post plans to assist Boeing to ensure that the eventual

competition is fair and transparent. The fact that TAROM is

wholly state-owned unfortunately injects politics into what

should be a straightforward business decision. End Comment.

TAUBMAN
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