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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:41 am    Post subject: PMag Reply with quote
My -4 had a Pmag and an Emag when I bought it. I recently had the Pmag rebuilt and the the Emag converted to a Pmag. Hope to have it back in the air in a few weeks.[quote]---

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:41 am    Post subject: PMag Reply with quote
Do they even still make the E-mag, the non self powered version?
I wonder what the performance differences are between E/P-Mags and the competing LSE- Systems in terms of additional power output as well as fuel savings?

I wonder if anyone has ever run a single LSE in conjunction with not a Magneto, but rather an E/P-Mag for two truly redundant electronic ignitions?
Hmm, I wonder how they would work together, i.e. if both competing EI systems would be mixed on one engine??? Hmm...?
Konrad
On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
[quote]I think the early problems are behind them. I have one on my 8A based on some recommendations of RV pilots I trust that have had no issues in years of use. I plan to place on eon my -10 when they finally release the 6 cylinder version.
Like most systems I prefer diversity so I would never run two PMags but I would never run two Light speed either.

Robin

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HI Konrad,

Well, the evidence seems to be accumulating that they have. More and more of them are in use in RV's in my area, KLVK, and so far it looks like they may have worked through those early problems. I remain somewhat cautious but thinking about starting with one and see how it goes.

Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 805 hours

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:59 am    Post subject: PMag Reply with quote
I was browsing the P-Mag web site this week. They look pretty cool, but the web site really makes no mention of whether there's any real performance/economy benefit to them. Does anyone have any real world experience along these lines?

I've got two standard Slick mags on my IO-390. If I dumped $2200 on a pair of P-Mags, would I really notice any difference? The IO-390 already starts and runs great. More power and better economy are always welcome, though...

Matt Dralle
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At 10:36 AM 3/9/2011 Wednesday, you wrote:
[quote]Do they even still make the E-mag, the non self powered version?

I wonder what the performance differences are between E/P-Mags and the competing LSE- Systems in terms of additional power output as well as fuel savings?

I wonder if anyone has ever run a single LSE in conjunction with not a Magneto, but rather an E/P-Mag for two truly redundant electronic ignitions?

Hmm, I wonder how they would work together, i.e. if both competing EI systems would be mixed on one engine??? Hmm...?

Konrad
On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Robin Marks wrote:

>I think the early problems are behind them. I have one on my 8A based on some recommendations of RV pilots I trust that have had no issues in years of use. I plan to place on eon my -10 when they finally release the 6 cylinder version.
>Like most systems I prefer diversity so I would never run two PMags but I would never run two Light speed either.
>
>
>Robin
>
>
>From: <mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com>owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:<mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com>owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of <mailto:HCRV6(at)comcast.net>HCRV6(at)comcast.net
>Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:45 AM
>To: <mailto:rv6-list(at)matronics.com>rv6-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Anyone here?
>
>
>HI Konrad,
>
>Well, the evidence seems to be accumulating that they have. More and more of them are in use in RV's in my area, KLVK, and so far it looks like they may have worked through those early problems. I remain somewhat cautious but thinking about starting with one and see how it goes.
>
>Harry Crosby
>RV-6 N16CX, 805 hours
>
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:28 am    Post subject: PMag Reply with quote
Well, I guess that speaks for itself about your happiness with the E/P-Mags... How much time was on your P-mag before the rebuild?

Konrad

On Mar 9, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Phil N wrote:
[quote]My -4 had a Pmag and an Emag when I bought it. I recently had the Pmag rebuilt and the the Emag converted to a Pmag. Hope to have it back in the air in a few weeks.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:39 am    Post subject: PMag Reply with quote
Well Matt,

If you want more performance by adding Dual EI's, then you can't
really go wrong with Klaus Savier's LSE-II or -III's, but I do not
know if the P-Mags are performing equally as well in that department.

Konrad
On Mar 9, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Matt Dralle wrote:

[quote]

I was browsing the P-Mag web site this week. They look pretty cool,
but the web site really makes no mention of whether there's any real
performance/economy benefit to them. Does anyone have any real
world experience along these lines?

I've got two standard Slick mags on my IO-390. If I dumped $2200 on
a pair of P-Mags, would I really notice any difference? The IO-390
already starts and runs great. More power and better economy are
always welcome, though...

Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 150+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
At 10:36 AM 3/9/2011 Wednesday, you wrote:
> Do they even still make the E-mag, the non self powered version?
>
> I wonder what the performance differences are between E/P-Mags and
> the competing LSE- Systems in terms of additional power output as
> well as fuel savings?
>
> I wonder if anyone has ever run a single LSE in conjunction with
> not a Magneto, but rather an E/P-Mag for two truly redundant
> electronic ignitions?
>
> Hmm, I wonder how they would work together, i.e. if both competing
> EI systems would be mixed on one engine??? Hmm...?
>
> Konrad
> On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
>> I think the early problems are behind them. I have one on my 8A
>> based on some recommendations of RV pilots I trust that have had
>> no issues in years of use. I plan to place on eon my -10 when they
>> finally release the 6 cylinder version.
>> Like most systems I prefer diversity so I would never run two
>> PMags but I would never run two Light speed either.
>>
>>
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> From: <mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com>owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:<mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com>owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> ] On Behalf Of <mailto:HCRV6(at)comcast.net>HCRV6(at)comcast.net
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:45 AM
>> To: <mailto:rv6-list(at)matronics.com>rv6-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Anyone here?
>>
>>
>> HI Konrad,
>>
>> Well, the evidence seems to be accumulating that they have. More
>> and more of them are in use in RV's in my area, KLVK, and so far
>> it looks like they may have worked through those early problems.
>> I remain somewhat cautious but thinking about starting with one
>> and see how it goes.
>>
>> Harry Crosby
>> RV-6 N16CX, 805 hours
>>
>> ---

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: PMag Reply with quote
I will have to check the logs, not absolutely certain. Since I was already sending the emag for an upgrade to pmag, I decided to send the pmag for a cleaning and inspection. Good thing I did, Brad found an issue with it that needed to be addressed (user induced, not a defect). I can't say enough about how nice he has been to deal with.I am also switching from aircraft plugs to auto (NGK) plugs, and installing EmagAir's harness.> Well, I guess that speaks for itself about your happiness with the E/P-Mags... How much time was on your P-mag before the rebuild? [quote][b]

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:04 pm    Post subject: PMag Reply with quote
Thank you for the info... Sounds like a good product with great customer support after all is said and done!
On Mar 9, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Phil N wrote:
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I will have to check the logs, not absolutely certain. Since I was already sending the emag for an upgrade to pmag, I decided to send the pmag for a cleaning and inspection. Good thing I did, Brad found an issue with it that needed to be addressed (user induced, not a defect). I can't say enough about how nice he has been to deal with.

I am also switching from aircraft plugs to auto (NGK) plugs, and installing EmagAir's harness.
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