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Got another question
This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of SLC36005. The only thing I can find on the internet is an application for an O320E2D.
This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:41 am Post subject: Millennium cylinders |
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Gary,
My Tiger (O-360, of course) had Millennium cylinders. In fact I have a fresh spare sitting in the hanger that I never needed.....I can check the markings on if need be and It is available for sale or trade if you or someone needs it.
Andy Thomas
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:57 am Post subject: Millennium cylinders |
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The O-320 has a shorter stroke. If you used O-320 cylinders with the
O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would hit the top of
the cylinder heads or the valves. If that didn't happen the CR would be
extreemly high! The head casting number may be the same, just a longer
barrel on the O-320 possibly.
Cliff
On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
| Quote: | Got another question
This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of SLC36005.
The only thing I can find on the internet is an application for an O320E2D.
This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
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BARRY CHECK 6
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:59 am Post subject: Millennium cylinders |
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Cliff:
Are you sure about that? I was told just the opposite from an engine shop. Is there any way it can be researched?
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
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I REALLY do not trust that particular engine shop.
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The O-320 has a shorter stroke. If you used O-320 cylinders with the O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would hit the top of the cylinder heads or the valves. If that didn't happen the CR would be extreemly high! The head casting number may be the same, just a longer barrel on the O-320 possibly.
Cliff
On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
| Quote: | Got another question
This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of SLC36005.
The only thing I can find on the internet is an application for an O320E2D.
This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:54 am Post subject: Millennium cylinders |
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Sure about what? I didn't say I was sure about anything except that the
O-320 has a shorter stroke than and O-360.
Cliff
On 3/16/2011 6:55 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
| Quote: | Cliff:
Are you sure about that? I was told just the opposite from an engine
shop. Is there any way it can be researched?
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
PS:
I REALLY do not trust that particular engine shop.
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On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:52 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com
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The O-320 has a shorter stroke. If you used O-320 cylinders with
the O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would hit the
top of the cylinder heads or the valves. If that didn't happen the
CR would be extreemly high! The head casting number may be the
same, just a longer barrel on the O-320 possibly.
Cliff
On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
Got another question
This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of
SLC36005.
The only thing I can find on the internet is an application for
an O320E2D.
This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:39 pm Post subject: Millennium cylinders |
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I wasn't talking about the connecting rod length, but the engine stroke.
Since both engines have the same bore the O-360 has a greater stroke.
As to cylinder length, I have both cylinders in my hanger, so I'll
check on their length when I get a chance. I still think the O-360
cylinder is longer.
Cliff
On 3/16/2011 10:20 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
| Quote: | Yes, Cliff....
I was told the connecting rod was shorter on an O-360 than on an O-320.
Just the opposite of what stated. I did not do the research, I do not
have the factory manual for building an O-360. Only want was told to be
by Columbia Engines.
Barry
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:51 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>> wrote:
<flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>
Sure about what? I didn't say I was sure about anything except that
the O-320 has a shorter stroke than and O-360.
Cliff
On 3/16/2011 6:55 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
Cliff:
Are you sure about that? I was told just the opposite from an
engine
shop. Is there any way it can be researched?
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
PS:
I REALLY do not trust that particular engine shop.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:52 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com
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<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>>
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<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>>
The O-320 has a shorter stroke. If you used O-320 cylinders
with
the O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would
hit the
top of the cylinder heads or the valves. If that didn't
happen the
CR would be extreemly high! The head casting number may be the
same, just a longer barrel on the O-320 possibly.
Cliff
On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
Got another question
This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of
SLC36005.
The only thing I can find on the internet is an
application for
an O320E2D.
This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:33 pm Post subject: Millennium cylinders |
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Cliff,
The O360 is 1/2 inch longer. These have to be the right cylinders. Not sure why the casting number doesn't show up on Superiors web site.
Gary
From: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 1:37:06 PM
Subject: Re: Millennium cylinders
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I wasn't talking about the connecting rod length, but the engine stroke.
Since both engines have the same bore the O-360 has a greater stroke.
As to cylinder length, I have both cylinders in my hanger, so I'll
check on their length when I get a chance. I still think the O-360
cylinder is longer.
Cliff
On 3/16/2011 10:20 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
[quote] Yes, Cliff....
I was told the connecting rod was shorter on an O-360 than on an O-320.
Just the opposite of what stated. I did not do the research, I do not
have the factory manual for building an O-360. Only want was told to be
by Columbia Engines.
Barry
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:51 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com)
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com)>> wrote:
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: flyv35b
<flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com) <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com)>>
Sure about what? I didn't say I was sure about anything except that
the O-320 has a shorter stroke than and O-360.
Cliff
On 3/16/2011 6:55 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
Cliff:
Are you sure about that? I was told just the opposite from an
engine
shop. Is there any way it can be researched?
Barry
"Chop'd Liver"
PS:
I REALLY do not trust that particular engine shop.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:52 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com)
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com)>
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com) <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com)>>>
wrote:
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<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com) <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com (flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com)>>>
The O-320 has a shorter stroke. If you used O-320 cylinders
with
the O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would
hit the
top of the cylinder heads or the valves. If that didn't
happen the
CR would be extreemly high! The head casting number may be the
same, just a longer barrel on the O-320 possibly.
Cliff
On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
Got another question
This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of
SLC36005.
The only thing I can find on the internet is an
application for
an O320E2D.
This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:52 am Post subject: Millennium cylinders |
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I think that is essentially what I said: longer stroke, longer
cylinders. I just wasn't sure if it was 1/2" or something close.
Actually, the displacement and stoke is: 361 in.^3/4.375 in and
319.8/3.875. The O-360 rod length is 0.25 in LONGER than the O-320 rod
(don't know what Barry's engine shop was smoking when they told him is
was shorter!)
And I don't see how you could install O-320 cylinders (with the 8.5:1 CR
piston) on an O-360 engine without either the piston hitting the head or
valves or the top ring coming out of the bore at the top.
Cliff
On 3/16/2011 8:29 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
| Quote: | Cliff,
The O360 is 1/2 inch longer. These have to be the right cylinders. Not
sure why the casting number doesn't show up on Superiors web site.
Gary
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*From:* flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
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*Sent:* Wed, March 16, 2011 1:37:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: Millennium cylinders
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>
I wasn't talking about the connecting rod length, but the engine stroke.
Since both engines have the same bore the O-360 has a greater stroke.
As to cylinder length, I have both cylinders in my hanger, so I'll
check on their length when I get a chance. I still think the O-360
cylinder is longer.
Cliff
On 3/16/2011 10:20 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
> Yes, Cliff....
>
> I was told the connecting rod was shorter on an O-360 than on an O-320.
> Just the opposite of what stated. I did not do the research, I do not
> have the factory manual for building an O-360. Only want was told to be
> by Columbia Engines.
>
> Barry
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:51 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
> <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>> wrote:
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> <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>>
>
> Sure about what? I didn't say I was sure about anything except that
> the O-320 has a shorter stroke than and O-360.
>
> Cliff
>
>
> On 3/16/2011 6:55 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
>
> Cliff:
>
> Are you sure about that? I was told just the opposite from an
> engine
> shop. Is there any way it can be researched?
>
> Barry
> "Chop'd Liver"
> PS:
>
> I REALLY do not trust that particular engine shop.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:52 AM, flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
> <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>
> <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>>>
> wrote:
>
>
> <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>
> <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
<mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com <mailto:flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>>>>
>
>
> The O-320 has a shorter stroke. If you used O-320 cylinders
> with
> the O-360 crank and rods I would suspect the pistons would
> hit the
> top of the cylinder heads or the valves. If that didn't
> happen the
> CR would be extreemly high! The head casting number may be the
> same, just a longer barrel on the O-320 possibly.
>
> Cliff
>
>
> On 3/15/2011 8:34 PM, Gary Vogt wrote:
>
> Got another question
>
> This plane has Millennium cylinders with a casting number of
> SLC36005.
> The only thing I can find on the internet is an
> application for
> an O320E2D.
>
> This plane can't possibly have O320 cylinders . . . can it?
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