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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:26 am Post subject: List decorum

At 07:59 AM 4/23/2011, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  Furgusmaycomeandcheckoutyourwastepaperbaskettomakesureyouusedeverysquareinchoftoiletpaperanddidn'twasteanylinesorleaveaplethoraofemptyspaces.

bruce




	


   Okay folks. We've all known Fergus for a whole lot of

   years here on the List. He attended a weekend seminar

   I presented in the Toronto area some years ago. I

   spent a pleasant evening across the dinner table

   from him and his wife. I don't think he's got a

   vindictive bone in his body.



   At the same time, we've all observed how easy it

   is to assign emotional weight to written words

   that has nothing to do with the spirit and intent

   of the writer. Some of you have come down pretty

   hard on me in past years based on some mis-interpretation

   of my spirit and intent.



   I have observed there are but 4 reasons that

   humans communicate with each other. To inform,

   entertain, constructively persuade, or to

   bully.



   The first three goals are always useful amongst

   honorable people. Bullying has no useful

   purpose except to speaker/writer who takes

   personal pleasure in the discomfort of others.

   When you write for this list, please be mindful

   of the intent for your choice of words.



   And let us give the benefit of the doubt

   to others . . . we may not be perfect in our

   communications skills but out of thousands

   of participants over 10+ years on the

   AeroElectric-List, we have encountered

   very few bullies . . . and they were asked

   to leave. The probability that anyone is

   deliberately practicing the bully's arts

   is very low. At the same time, a population

   of 1600 members on the List offers a high

   potential for misunderstanding.



   We study the simple-ideas that go into

   recipes for success in the aviation technologies

   for the benefit of any who which to participate.

   There are also simple-ideas in human behavior

   that come together nicely as recipes for

   success in the conduct of a civilized society.



   I'd like to believe that we who take the

   limits and capabilities of airplanes very

   seriously are equally respectful of the

   limits and capabilities of our fellow

   pilots.

   Bob . . .

jbr79r(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:03 am Post subject: List decorum

Very well put  Bob!!!

Jim

 

James Robinson

Glasair lll  N79R

Spanish Fork UT  U77

From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Sat, April 23, 2011 6:21:17 AM

Subject: List decorum



 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>



At 07:59 AM 4/23/2011, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Furgusmaycomeandcheckoutyourwastepaperbaskettomakesureyouusedeverysquareinchoftoiletpaperanddidn'twasteanylinesorleaveaplethoraofemptyspaces.

 bruce

 


	


  Okay folks. We've all known Fergus for a whole lot of

  years here on the List. He attended a weekend seminar

  I presented in the Toronto area some years ago. I

  spent a pleasant evening across the dinner table

  from him and his wife. I don't think he's got a

  vindictive bone in his body.



  At the same time, we've all observed how easy it

  is to assign emotional weight to written words

  that has nothing to do with the spirit and intent

  of the  writer. Some of you have come down pretty

  hard on me in past years based on some mis-interpretation

  of my spirit and intent.



  I have observed there are but 4 reasons that

  humans communicate with each other. To inform,

  entertain, constructively persuade, or to

  bully.



  The first three goals are always useful amongst

  honorable people. Bullying has no useful

  purpose except to speaker/writer who takes

  personal pleasure in the discomfort of others.

  When you write for this list, please be mindful

  of the intent for your choice of words.



  And let us give the benefit of the doubt

  to others . . . we may not be perfect in our

  communications skills but out of thousands

  of participants over 10+ years on the

  AeroElectric-List, we have encountered

  very few bullies . . . and they were    

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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: List decorum

On Apr 23, 2011, at 5:21 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  When you write for this list, please be mindful

 of the intent for your choice of words.

	




Thank you Bob,

Not to belabor the point, but rather to finish off this topic on a high note, I offer:

	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzgzim5m7oU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Fred

do not archive

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gpabruce(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:11 am Post subject: List decorum

Don't you love it when the Bully accuses the other of being the Bully? And those who want to defend the Bully who started the Bullyism? If you're worried about using up cyber bits and bytes and spaces, you could lead by example and stop yourself. Some people are just full of themselves. Now see if you can not reply and that will end this stupid rant about saving cyber space only when someone else is conversing.

   

 Bruce

  

  

 



 

 On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>

 

At 07:59 AM 4/23/2011, you wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Furgusmaycomeandcheckoutyourwastepaperbaskettomakesureyouusedeverysquareinchoftoiletpaperanddidn'twasteanylinesorleaveaplethoraofemptyspaces.

 bruce



	


 Okay folks. We've all known Fergus for a whole lot of

 years here on the List. He attended a weekend seminar

 I presented in the Toronto area some years ago. I

 spent a pleasant evening across the dinner table

  from him and his wife. I don't think he's got a

 vindictive bone in his body.



 At the same time, we've all observed how easy it

 is to assign emotional weight to written words

 that has nothing to do with the spirit and intent

  of the writer. Some of you have come down pretty

 hard on me in past years based on some mis-interpretation

 of my spirit and intent.



 I have observed there are but 4 reasons that

 humans communicate with each other. To inform,

  entertain, constructively persuade, or to

 bully.



 The first three goals are always useful amongst

 honorable people. Bullying has no useful

 purpose except to speaker/writer who takes

 personal pleasure in the discomfort of others.

  When you write for this list, please be mindful

 of the intent for your choice of words.



 And let us give the benefit of the doubt

 to others . . . we may not be perfect in our

 communications skills but out of thousands

  of participants over 10+ years on the

 AeroElectric-List, we have encountered

 very few bullies . . . and they were asked

 to leave. The probability that anyone is

 deliberately practicing the bully's arts

  is very low. At the same time, a population

 of 1600 members on the List offers a high

 potential for misunderstanding.



 We study the simple-ideas that go into

 recipes for success in the aviation technologies

  for the benefit of any who which to participate.

 There are also simple-ideas in human behavior

 that come together nicely as recipes for

 success in the conduct of a civilized society.



 I'd like to believe that we who take the

  limits and capabilities of airplanes very

 seriously are equally respectful of the

 limits and capabilities of our fellow

 pilots.http://forums.mle, List Admin.

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raymondj(at)frontiernet.n
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject: List decorum

Bob,



I believe "to deceive" could be added to the list. But this is not a 

topic that that adds to anyone's electron herding skills.



do not archive



Raymond Julian

Kettle River, MN



"And you know that I could have me a million more friends,

and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine



On 04/23/2011 07:21 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:

**snip**

 	  Quote: 	
		   I have observed there are but 4 reasons that

 humans communicate with each other. To inform,

 entertain, constructively persuade, or to

 bully.

**snip**

ainut(at)knology.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:05 pm Post subject: List decorum

I didn't think that post from Fergus was such a big deal.



b d wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Don't you love it when the Bully accuses the other of being the Bully? 

 And those who want to defend the Bully who started the Bullyism? If 

 you're worried about using up cyber bits and bytes and spaces, you 

 could lead by example and stop yourself. Some people are just full of 

 themselves. Now see if you can not reply and that will end this stupid 

 rant about saving cyber space only when someone else is conversing.

 Bruce

 On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III 

 <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com <mailto:nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>> 

 wrote:



     

     <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com <mailto:nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>>



     At 07:59 AM 4/23/2011, you wrote:



         Furgusmaycomeandcheckoutyourwastepaperbaskettomakesureyouusedeverysquareinchoftoiletpaperanddidn'twasteanylinesorleaveaplethoraofemptyspaces.

         bruce

      Okay folks. We've all known Fergus for a whole lot of

      years here on the List. He attended a weekend seminar

      I presented in the Toronto area some years ago. I

      spent a pleasant evening across the dinner table

      from him and his wife. I don't think he's got a

      vindictive bone in his body.



      At the same time, we've all observed how easy it

      is to assign emotional weight to written words

      that has nothing to do with the spirit and intent

      of the writer. Some of you have come down pretty

      hard on me in past years based on some mis-interpretation

      of my spirit and intent.



      I have observed there are but 4 reasons that

      humans communicate with each other. To inform,

      entertain, constructively persuade, or to

      bully.



      The first three goals are always useful amongst

      honorable people. Bullying has no useful

      purpose except to speaker/writer who takes

      personal pleasure in the discomfort of others.

      When you write for this list, please be mindful

      of the intent for your choice of words.



      And let us give the benefit of the doubt

      to others . . . we may not be perfect in our

      communications skills but out of thousands

      of participants over 10+ years on the

      AeroElectric-List, we have encountered

      very few bullies . . . and they were asked

      to leave. The probability that anyone is

      deliberately practicing the bully's arts

      is very low. At the same time, a population

      of 1600 members on the List offers a high

      potential for misunderstanding.



      We study the simple-ideas that go into

      recipes for success in the aviation technologies

      for the benefit of any who which to participate.

      There are also simple-ideas in human behavior

      that come together nicely as recipes for

      success in the conduct of a civilized society.



      I'd like to believe that we who take the

      limits and capabilities of airplanes very

      seriously are equally respectful of the

      limits and capabilities of our fellow

      pilots.

     , 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,

     ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List"

     target="_blank"=========

     http://forums.mle, List Admin.

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henador_titzoff(at)yahoo.
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:14 pm Post subject: List decorum

Neither did I, David.  In fact, I thought he was trying to improve our communication.  I also liked the post by Dj saying that we've had gentle reminders over the years, and it makes searching the archives a major PITA.

And finally, I liked the post by Raymond J. asking to add "to deceive" to Bob's list.



Henador Titzoff



From: David <ainut(at)knology.net>

To:  aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: List decorum



 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: David <ainut(at)knology.net (ainut(at)knology.net)>



I didn't think that post from Fergus was such a big deal.



b d wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Don't you love it when the Bully accuses the other of being the Bully? And those who want to defend the Bully who started the Bullyism? If you're worried about using up cyber bits and bytes and spaces, you could lead by example and stop yourself. Some people are just full of themselves. Now see if you can not reply and that will end this stupid rant about saving cyber space only when someone else is conversing.

 Bruce

 

 

 On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com) <mailto:nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>> wrote:

 

     --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"

     <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com) <mailto:nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>>

 

     At 07:59 AM 4/23/2011, you wrote:

 

         Furgusmaycomeandcheckoutyourwastepaperbaskettomakesureyouusedeverysquareinchoftoiletpaperanddidn'twasteanylinesorleaveaplethoraofemptyspaces.

         bruce

 

 

      Okay folks. We've all known Fergus for a whole lot of

      years here on the List. He attended a weekend  seminar

      I presented in the Toronto area some years ago. I

      spent a pleasant evening across the dinner table

      from him and his wife. I don't think he's got a

      vindictive bone in his body.

 

      At the same time, we've all observed how easy it

      is to assign emotional weight to written words

      that has nothing to do with the spirit and intent

      of the writer. Some of you have come down pretty

      hard on me in past years based on some mis-interpretation

      of my spirit and intent.

 

      I have observed there are but 4 reasons that

      humans communicate with each other. To inform,

      entertain, constructively  persuade, or to

      bully.

 

      The first three goals are always useful amongst

      honorable people. Bullying has no useful

      purpose except to speaker/writer who takes

      personal pleasure in the discomfort of others.

      When you write for this list, please be mindful

      of the intent for your choice of words.

 

      And let us give the benefit of the doubt

      to others . . . we may not be perfect in our

      communications skills but out of thousands

      of participants over 10+ years on the

      AeroElectric-List, we have encountered

      very few bullies . . . and they were asked

      to leave. The  probability that anyone is

      deliberately practicing the bully's arts

      is very low. At the same time, a population

      of 1600 members on the List offers a high

      potential for misunderstanding.

 

      We study the simple-ideas that go into

      recipes for success in the aviation technologies

      for the benefit of any who which to participate.

      There are also simple-ideas in human behavior

      that come together nicely as recipes for

      success in the conduct of a civilized society.

 

      I'd like to believe that we who take the

      limits and capabilities of airplanes very

      seriously are equally respectful of  the

      limits and capabilities of our fellow

      pilots.

     , 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,

     ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List"

     target="_blank"=========

     http://forums.mle, List Admin.

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gpabruce(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:55 pm Post subject: List decorum

It wasn't nor was what he was complaining about a big deal . . . it didn't even require a comment let alone a rude comment. See how many spaces and lines have been used since?  



 On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 2:45 PM, David <ainut(at)knology.net (ainut(at)knology.net)> wrote:

 [quote]--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: David <ainut(at)knology.net (ainut(at)knology.net)>

 

I didn't think that post from Fergus was such a big deal.



b d wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		   Don't you love it when the Bully accuses the other of being the Bully? And those who want to defend the Bully who started the Bullyism? If you're worried about using up cyber bits and bytes and spaces, you could lead by example and stop yourself. Some people are just full of themselves. Now see if you can not reply and that will end this stupid rant about saving cyber space only when someone else is conversing.

 Bruce



On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com) <mailto:nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>> wrote:

 

   --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"

   <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com) <mailto:nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>>  



   At 07:59 AM 4/23/2011, you wrote:



       Furgusmaycomeandcheckoutyourwastepaperbaskettomakesureyouusedeverysquareinchoftoiletpaperanddidn'twasteanylinesorleaveaplethoraofemptyspaces.

        bruce

    Okay folks. We've all known Fergus for a whole lot of

    years here on the List. He attended a weekend seminar

    I presented in the Toronto area some years ago. I

    spent a pleasant evening across the dinner table

     from him and his wife. I don't think he's got a

    vindictive bone in his body.



    At the same time, we've all observed how easy it

    is to assign emotional weight to written words

    that has nothing to do with the spirit and intent

     of the writer. Some of you have come down pretty

    hard on me in past years based on some mis-interpretation

    of my spirit and intent.

     I have observed there are but 4 reasons that

    humans communicate with each other. To inform,

    entertain, constructively persuade, or to

    bully.

  

     The first three goals are always useful amongst

    honorable people. Bullying has no useful

    purpose except to speaker/writer who takes

    personal pleasure in the discomfort of others.

     When you write for this list, please be mindful

    of the intent for your choice of words.



    And let us give the benefit of the doubt

    to others . . . we may not be perfect in our

    communications skills but out of thousands

     of participants over 10+ years on the

    AeroElectric-List, we have encountered

    very few bullies . . . and they were asked

    to leave. The probability that anyone is

    deliberately practicing the bully's arts

     is very low. At the same time, a population

    of 1600 members on the List offers a high

    potential for misunderstanding.



    We study the simple-ideas that go into

    recipes for success in the aviation technologies

     for the benefit of any who which to participate.

    There are also simple-ideas in human behavior

    that come together nicely as recipes for

    success in the conduct of a civilized society.



    I'd like to believe that we who take the

     limits and capabilities of airplanes very

    seriously are equally respectful of the

    limits and capabilities of our fellow

    pilots.

    , 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,



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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:06 pm Post subject: list decorum

Hey all- I would make the observation that while we all slip up periiodically, and I myself do appreciate and enjoy most of the wit and intellect displayed in this forum, our kind and generous host sends two emails to us all each and every month.  Among other things, these emails ask us to trim, not archive irrelevant material, be polite, not engage in personal assaults, and otherwise not waste his resources.  At the very least it seems like a token attempt to abide by his rules is not unreasonable, and I believe that is all Fergus was reminding us about.  



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gpabruce(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: list decorum

Glen,

  

 Your point is well taken and appreciated  . . . but that's not how Fergus put it . . . . .he made a list and pointed fingers and talked down to these people, then he cried "Bully" when he got a response from me. A person has the opportunity to speak nice or speak mean. Fergus chose to speak mean  . . .  Fergus needs to be accountable and not be such a control freak . . . . to be honest I thought this had gone away . . . I was willing to drop it but now I would like to point out: "I'm still at the top of the list"  yee hah!

   

 do NOT archive or cry! 

  

 Bruce  LOL

 On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Glen Matejcek <aerobubba(at)earthlink.net (aerobubba(at)earthlink.net)> wrote:

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Hey all- I would make the observation that while we all slip up periiodically, and I myself do appreciate and enjoy most of the wit and intellect displayed in this forum, our kind and generous host sends two emails to us all each and every month.  Among other things, these emails ask us to trim, not archive irrelevant material, be polite, not engage in personal assaults, and otherwise not waste his resources.  At the very least it seems like a token attempt to abide by his rules is not unreasonable, and I believe that is all Fergus was reminding us about.

 

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