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ScooterF15

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 136

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:52 pm Post subject: Retrofit locking fuel caps

I’ve been researching retrofit locking fuel caps. I’ve seen some write-ups on the Van’s retrofit locking fuel caps and the Andair ones. Both require an insert to be pro-sealed into the existing fuel cap. I just found some at Aircraft Spruce that don’t require an insert (see link).

 

Has anyone tried these?

http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/appages/retrofitfc.php

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

N312JE – temporarily grounded for Dynon Skyview panel upgrade 

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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: Retrofit locking fuel caps

It's a little hard to tell exactly from the picture on ACS, but the

locking cap shown in the link looks a lot like the ones I have.  They

did require an insert.  I think the clue is the "1-3/8" orifice",

after the insert goes in.  Isn't the original filler closer to 2" in

diameter?



I've been happy with these caps although the opening doesn't offer

much of a view inside the tank.  I also tried the caps just above, the

SPRLs, which fell apart and dropped their guts in the tank after a few

hours.



Dave Saylor

AirCrafters

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 95076

831-722-9141 Shop

831-750-0284 Cell



On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 5:48 PM, James McGrew <jsmcgrew(at)alum.mit.edu> wrote:

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		   Iâ€™ve been researching retrofit locking fuel caps. Iâ€™ve seen some write-ups

 on the Vanâ€™s retrofit locking fuel caps and the Andair ones. Both require an

 insert to be pro-sealed into the existing fuel cap. I just found some at

 Aircraft Spruce that donâ€™t require an insert (see link).



 Has anyone tried these?



 http://www.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/appages/retrofitfc.php



 Thanks.



 Jim



 N312JE â€“ temporarily grounded for Dynon Skyview panel upgrade

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Mike Whisky

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps

I am interested in the Andair retrofit fuel caps. Did anyone use them and is already flying? Pictures of the installation would be much appreciated.



Regards

Michael

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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: Retrofit locking fuel caps

I LOVE Andair products but I recall a discussion stating that the locking fuel tend to vent out of the lock mechanism and that builders that fill their tanks up nearly all the way experience blue fuel streaks coming off of the fuel cap opening in flight. The best solution seems to be to paint your wings blue. 

Not 100% sure this was an Andair cap issue or another locking cap.

  

Robin 

  

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I am interested in the Andair retrofit fuel caps. Did anyone use them and is already flying? Pictures of the installation would be much appreciated.

 

Regards

Michael



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Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps

I have the "blue streak" problem that Robin mentions, with my Newton caps. The fuel siphons out of the key slot right after takeoff, when the tanks are filled to the top. The Newton caps are sold by Van's. The Andair caps look almost identical to the Newton caps. I have not heard if the Andair caps have the same problem, but would like to know.

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Deems Davis

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:15 am Post subject: Retrofit locking fuel caps

I can confirm that the Andair fuel caps leak, when the tanks are     full, its last for a few minutes after t.

     

     Deems

     

     On 5/2/2011 1:05 PM, Robin Marks wrote:     [quote]                     Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps                       

I LOVE Andair products but I recall a discussion             stating that the locking fuel tend to vent out of the lock             mechanism and that builders that fill their tanks up nearly             all the way experience blue fuel streaks coming off of the             fuel cap opening in flight. The best solution seems to be to             paint your wings blue.         

Not 100% sure this was an Andair cap issue or another             locking cap.         

          

Robin          

                                  

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             I am interested in the Andair retrofit fuel caps. Did anyone             use them and is already flying? Pictures of the installation             would be much appreciated.

             

             Regards

             Michael

             

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ScooterF15

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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: Retrofit locking fuel caps

Thanks for all the inputs. It appears that all the available locking caps require a 1 3/8” insert to be pro-sealed in to the existing 2” opening. Also, it appears that all the locking caps leak when the tanks are topped off. I was looking at my stock Van’s caps yesterday and I think I figured out a simple way to padlock them. It won’t be necessarily pretty, but will probably suffice for the rare occasion when I want to have my tanks locked overnight. At $28 each from Van’s, I’ll just have one set of modified ones in the back of the plane along with my tie downs, chocks, canopy cover, control locks etc. I’ll post pictures when I complete the modification.

 

-Jim

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I can confirm that the Andair fuel caps leak, when the tanks are full, its last for a few minutes after t.



Deems



On 5/2/2011 1:05 PM, Robin Marks wrote: 

I LOVE Andair products but I recall a discussion stating that the locking fuel tend to vent out of the lock mechanism and that builders that fill their tanks up nearly all the way experience blue fuel streaks coming off of the fuel cap opening in flight. The best solution seems to be to paint your wings blue.

Not 100% sure this was an Andair cap issue or another locking cap.

 

Robin 

 

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Subject: Re: Retrofit locking fuel caps

 

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I am interested in the Andair retrofit fuel caps. Did anyone use them and is already flying? Pictures of the installation would be much appreciated.



Regards

Michael



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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: Retrofit locking fuel caps

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  OK, so what are you going to do about the sump drains?

  

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