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dale1rv6(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:39 am Post subject: Electroair failure record?

Good morning,

I installed the Electoair system recently and it has run smoothly, 12 =

hours to date. Was just told by an A&P that it has the potential to =

misfire at cruise speed and destroy the engine. Has anyone heard of this =

happening, or of a weakness in the design that might cause such an =

event? I have heard of misfire problems during startup due to voltage =

dropping below 8 volts at the controller, but I don't have that problem.

I searched the list archives and Google and found no mention of cruise =

speed failure or potential failure.



Thanks and have a great week,

Dale

RV6A  605 hours

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kboatright1(at)comcast.ne
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:11 am Post subject: Electroair failure record?

I've got 375 hours on my Electroair/0-320 with none of what your A& P 

suggests.  In 10 years of following this list and other similar forums, I 

don't remember a single reported instance of a cruise misfire causing engine 

problems.



I would ask him about the basis for his comments. Unless he does a lot of 

work on Experimentals, his experience with the Electroair ignition system is 

probably very limited.



KB



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jclarkmail(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: Electroair failure record?

After 689.9 hours with one on an O-320 I have not had this occur nor have I

heard of it.



You can get backfire during cranking (as I have and you have) if the batter=

y

voltage goes down below 8 volts or so as you say.



James

On 5/9/06, Dale Walter <dale1rv6(at)comcast.net> wrote:

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 Good morning,

 I installed the Electoair system recently and it has run smoothly, 12 

 hours to date. Was just told by an A&P that it has the potential to 

 misfire at cruise speed and destroy the engine. Has anyone heard of this =


	


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		   happening, or of a weakness in the design that might cause such an 

 event? I have heard of misfire problems during startup due to voltage 

 dropping below 8 volts at the controller, but I don't have that problem.

 I searched the list archives and Google and found no mention of cruise =


	


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		   speed failure or potential failure.



 Thanks and have a great week,

 Dale

 RV6A  605 hours



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Larry Bowen

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 802
Location: NC, USA

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:52 am Post subject: Electroair failure record?

Mine stumbled in flight on two occasions due to intermittent wiring

failure.  Search my website for "ignition" for more details.



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Fred.Stucklen(at)UTCPower
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:04 am Post subject: ElectroAir failure record?

I've put 208 hrs on the ElectroAir unit in my first RV-6A, and 480 Hrs

on a dual ElectroAir setup on my second RV. Except for a rash of 

pickup/sensor problems, both installation never missed a beat...

  Jeff Rose found that the 1/4" sensor unit in the original units were

having manufacturing QC issues. He's since changed those parts

to a 1/2" sealed unit. this is the type that I now have in the dual

ElectroAir install ion on my second RV-6A. they have worked

flawlessly.

  I have found that when a sensor fails, the engine will miss, but it

is because the ignition system went off-line, not because it fired

the plugs at the wrong time. (Same type of failure you would get 

when a Mag fails...) 

  As others have stated, I would press your A/P for more basis as to

why he thinks there is a problem...

  One of the better aspects of the ElectroAir system is the higher

voltage output. This is primarily due to the size of the coils. Compare 

these to those found in the E/P Mags....  Could this be one of the

reasons why the E/P Mags installations are running Hot?



Fred Stucklen

RV-6A  N926RV 480 Hrs

Multiple Offender!



      Mine stumbled in flight on two occasions due to intermittent wiring

      failure.  Search my website for "ignition" for more details.

      

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Bob Barrow

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 29

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:56 pm Post subject: ElectroAir failure record?

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<Fred.Stucklen(at)UTCPower.com>

   One of the better aspects of the ElectroAir system is the higher

voltage output. This is primarily due to the size of the coils. Compare

these to those found in the E/P Mags....  Could this be one of the

reasons why the E/P Mags installations are running Hot?


	




May I please enquire as to why you say that the E/P MAG systems are "running 

hot". What, specifically, is the source of that information.



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walter(at)tondu.com
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: ElectroAir failure record?

On 05/11  7:53, Bob Barrow wrote:



 > >

 > ><Fred.Stucklen(at)UTCPower.com>

 > >   One of the better aspects of the ElectroAir system is the higher

 > >voltage output. This is primarily due to the size of the coils. Compare

 > >these to those found in the E/P Mags....  Could this be one of the

 > >reasons why the E/P Mags installations are running Hot?

 > 

 > 

 > May I please enquire as to why you say that the E/P MAG systems are "running 

 > hot". What, specifically, is the source of that information.



My p-mags are running about 20-30 degrees LESS than the LASAR system

I removed, but I am also not running them at maximum advance per the

factory, until I get a firmware upgrade.



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