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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 7:43 pm Post subject: B&C fast-ons

I just checked the B&C website catalog and they

state that their crimp on terminal offerings are

genuine AMP PIDG . . .





   Bob . . .

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harvey4(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject: B&C fast-ons

Talking about Fast-ons, 1/4" female fast-ons seem easy to find, but I can't seem to locate male ones.

Neil



On May 9, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:



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 I just checked the B&C website catalog and they

 state that their crimp on terminal offerings are

 genuine AMP PIDG . . .

 

 

 

 

  Bob . . . 

 

 

 

 


	


Neil Clayton

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Dennis Johnson

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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: B&C fast-ons

I had the same problem with a Fast-On connector attached to a B&C fuse block.  The Fast-On was an AMP PIDG model.  I was having problems with one of my avionics and was feeling around behind the panel and felt that the connection between the Fast-On and the fuse block for that instrument was hot to the touch.  I wiggled it and the problem immediately went away.  However, I cut off the Fast-On and crimped on a new one.  I had about 350 hours on the airplane at that point.  No problems since.



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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject: B&C fast-ons

At 06:21 PM 5/10/2011, you wrote:

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I had the same problem with a Fast-On connector attached to a B&C 

fuse block.  The Fast-On was an AMP PIDG model.  I was having 

problems with one of my avionics and was feeling around behind the 

panel and felt that the connection between the Fast-On and the fuse 

block for that instrument was hot to the touch.  I wiggled it and 

the problem immediately went away.  However, I cut off the Fast-On 

and crimped on a new one.  I had about 350 hours on the airplane at 

that point.  No problems since.


	


    This anecdote re-enforces the idea posited in my

    earlier post. The 'magic' of a fast-on terminal all

    happens at the two grooves plowed into the male tab

    by the artfully designed and properly applied female

    terminal.



    One should be cognizant of the force vectors when

    installing these terminals. Avoid applying force

    perpendicular to the mating tab. If 'wiggles' are

    useful, make them in the plane of the tab. Ideally,

    the terminals should be pushed straight on.

   Bob . . .

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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject: B&C fast-ons

At 05:25 PM 5/10/2011, you wrote:

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Talking about Fast-ons, 1/4" female fast-ons seem easy to find, but 

I can't seem to locate male ones.


	


    How would you like to use them? By convention,

    accessories are fitted with tabs, wires are fitted

    with females. Tabs for wires are rare.



    Digikey shows a blue-PIDG .250" tab at:



http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=66024-6-ND



   and a red-PIDG .250" tab at:



http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=66023-2-ND



   but they're not cheap.



   If you're wanting a single-wire, serviceable splice, consider the

   knife-splice. MUCH preferred for splicing.



http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=A1068-ND



http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=A27474-ND

   Bob . . .

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harvey4(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: B&C fast-ons

I've been making temporary end-to-end connections as I do wiring mods behind the panel.

After testing and I'm sure the mod is good, I go back and hard crimp.

Question re knife splices....(I bought some the other day with the intention of trying them).

Are they intended for end-to-end splices like I need, in other words knife-splice to knife splice?

Thanks

Neil

On May 10, 2011, at 9:24 PM, Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 At 05:25 PM 5/10/2011, you wrote:

> 

> 

> Talking about Fast-ons, 1/4" female fast-ons seem easy to find, but I can't seem to locate male ones.

   How would you like to use them? By convention,

   accessories are fitted with tabs, wires are fitted

   with females. Tabs for wires are rare.

   Digikey shows a blue-PIDG .250" tab at:

 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=66024-6-ND

  and a red-PIDG .250" tab at:

 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=66023-2-ND

  but they're not cheap.

  If you're wanting a single-wire, serviceable splice, consider the

  knife-splice. MUCH preferred for splicing.

 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=A1068-ND

 http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=A27474-ND

  Bob . . . 

Neil Clayton

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nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelect
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject: B&C fast-ons

At 09:41 PM 5/10/2011, you wrote:

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I've been making temporary end-to-end connections as I do wiring 

mods behind the panel.

After testing and I'm sure the mod is good, I go back and hard crimp.



Question re knife splices....(I bought some the other day with the 

intention of trying them).

Are they intended for end-to-end splices like I need, in other words 

knife-splice to knife splice?


	


    Sure. We used buckets full of them at Cessna for terminating

    pigtails on certain accessories fitted with flying leads. A

    couple of knife splices covered with some plastic sleeve

    held with a tie-wrap was standard production line procedure.



    You can leave them in place suitably insulated . . . or if

    you're wanting a tidier looking bundle, you can get a very

    slim wire-to-wire splice like this.



http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Solder_Lap_Splicing/Solder_Lap_Splices.html



    But there's no compelling technical reason to cut out knife

    splices and replace with PIDG butt splices.

   Bob . . .

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ulflyer(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject: B&C fast-ons

Try Altex Electronics - Dallas TX.

You may have to call them but this is where I get most of my crimp on 

fasteners.  They usually have a good price compared to most other sources.



http://www.altex.com

jerb

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>Talking about Fast-ons, 1/4" female fast-ons seem easy to find, but 

>I can't seem to locate male ones.

>Neil

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