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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 7:23 pm Post subject: Key Ignition Switch

That might be legal some places south of the 49th but be careful it's not

considered a booby trap in your jurisdiction.



Noel



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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: Key Ignition Switch

A couple of years ago I was involved with the ground movement of a B737...  We never did find the master... After several weeks we looked it up in the manual to try the APU.  After sitting for over five years it started right up ... textbook style.



Noel



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stuart(at)stuarthutchison
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:46 am Post subject: Key Ignition Switch

G'day Guys,

  

 Physical security locks are mandatory in  Australia.  I plan to have a canopy lock, but for added security, I'm  installing one of Bob Newman's Smart Start modules (www.tcwtech.com).  It uses a momentary  switch to arm the start circuit for 1 minute - of course you can locate the  momentary switch anywhwere you like so that it's counter-intuitive to  find.  I would recommend the optional air switch to arm the start at  flying speeds, and there's also an option to connect the circuit to an  interconnect switch elsewhere, so that start is disabled until other  pre-conditions are met (for example closing the canopy).

  

  

Cheers,  Stu 

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   From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike  Welch

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 4:02 AM

To:  aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Re:  Key Ignition Switch

 

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		   What do you think would be the cheapest YET most  effective?

 TIA for your thoughts.

  Howard


	


Howard,

 

  Here is  what I would do, if I was worried about  losing an airplane

or airplane parts;  (cost...about $.50, if  that!)

 

                          ATTENTION!!!

 

If  you can read this message, you have already activated

a motion detector & video recorder, and  

                           YOU ARE BEING TAPED!!

 

IF YOU ARE STILL IN THIS VICINITY WITHIN 3  MINUTES,

THE POLICE WILL  BE NOTIFIED VIA A MODEM.

 

YOU  HAVE 2 1/2 MINUTES LEFT BEFORE THE POLICE ARE 

CALLED.  GOOD  BYE!!

 

  You also have a small  electronic box sitting inside the plane,

with a flashing RED LED.    The box is only visible if you are standing  

near the plane, even though it  blinks 24/7....they think they 

just set it  off and are being recorded!!  Nobody, and I mean NOBODY

is going to do a thing wrong when they think they are on  camera!!

 

Mike  Welch

 

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Neal.George(at)hurlburt.a
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:49 am Post subject: Key Ignition Switch

Howard - 



If a thief wants your airplane or something in it, he's going to take it.  Short of armed and catching him in the act, there's precious little you can do to stop it.  If you make it difficult, he'll just break stuff to get to what he wants.  Some will do additional damage out of pure meanness.



If somebody wants my stuff bad enough to steal it, I'd just as soon they didn't tear up the airplane in the process.  Good insurance at honest values is the answer to this one.  



A canopy cover will discourage the ramp-walking snooper.  Some airports require a prop lock, and it will show the insurance company and HAS/TSA/DEA that you tried to keep the airplane on the ground.  



Neal



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plevyakh

Joined: 10 Jan 2011
Posts: 39

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Key Ignition Switch

Folks,

Thanks for all the great inputs.   I'm going to keep it simple for now as you suggest and include the following:



1)  Propeller chain lock

2)  Throttle lock

3)  Canopy cover and or cloth drape over the panel to keep the avionics hidden.



I did find a nice lightweight high DB alarm that would trip when the door is opened.  It's a beam sensor device.  This might be added as a winter project down the road.



Howard

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Joined: 11 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:51 am Post subject: Key Ignition Switch

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		  From my brief view of the "thievery" issue, I think stolen airplanes are the 

minor issue.
	


Thefts from the "panel" are the primary target of the traveling hit and run 

crowd.  The last hit at our airport was strictly for new, popular model 

avionics....that would eventually show up on eBay, Craig's List, etc.  We 

are also located close to a freeway...not good as the thieves want a quick 

exit after hitting an airport.

D



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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: Key Ignition Switch

I don't have an ignition switch in my 6A.Â  I ran the line from the master switch to a banana jack and continued it on from another banana jack next to it. A 2 pronged banana plug (see photo attached) plugs into both of them.Â  A wire across the screw terminals of the plug shorts the 2 prongs together.Â  So, that shorting plug is my "ignition key".Â  I have regular toggle switches for the master switch (a 3 position switch - off, battery, battery + alt) and two other separate toggles switches for the magneto and the electronic ignition. Simple and light.

 

The 2 pronged banana plug can be bought at any radio shack or electronic parts store.Â  With the plug removed the master switch is disabled.Â  There are these 2 innocuous banana jacks in the panel which are unlabeled.Â  I'm guessing most people looking at the panel wouldn't pay them any attention or guess what they do.Â  My electrical system is otherwise Bob K's venerable Z-11.

 

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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject: Key Ignition Switch

Tom  

   

So, the ideal thief for your airplane would be a guy who works for Radio Shack .... J    just couldn’t resist  

   

Carlos  

   

           

  

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 To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

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I don't have an ignition switch in my 6A.  I ran the line from the master switch to a banana jack and continued it on from another banana jack next to it. A 2 pronged banana plug (see photo attached) plugs into both of them.  A wire across the screw terminals of the plug shorts the 2 prongs together.  So, that shorting plug is my "ignition key".  I have regular toggle switches for the master switch (a 3 position switch - off, battery, battery + alt) and two other separate toggles switches for the magneto and the electronic ignition. Simple and light.

 

 The 2 pronged banana plug can be bought at any radio shack or electronic parts store.  With the plug removed the master switch is disabled.  There are these 2 innocuous banana jacks in the panel which are unlabeled.  I'm guessing most people looking at the panel wouldn't pay them any attention or guess what they do.  My electrical system is otherwise Bob K's venerable Z-11.

 

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Float Flyr

Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject: Key Ignition Switch

Scrap the sign and just put the LED in with a label that says “Modem Active”  

 

The alternative is to actually install a camera, GPS and modem that’s active 24/7... that way you can keep tabs on your plane any time you want.  A GPS enabled phone left in the cargo compartment or mounted behind the battery may be all you need.

 

Noel

 



From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Welch

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 4:02 AM

To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Re: Key Ignition Switch

 	  Quote: 	
		   What do you think would be the cheapest YET most effective?

 TIA for your thoughts.

 Howard


	


Howard,

 

  Here is what I would do, if I was worried about losing an airplane

or airplane parts;  (cost...about $.50, if that!)

 

                          ATTENTION!!!

 

If you can read this message, you have already activated

a motion detector & video recorder, and 

                          YOU ARE BEING TAPED!!

 

IF YOU ARE STILL IN THIS VICINITY WITHIN 3 MINUTES,

THE POLICE WILL BE NOTIFIED VIA A MODEM.

 

YOU HAVE 2 1/2 MINUTES LEFT BEFORE THE POLICE ARE 

CALLED.  GOOD BYE!!

 

  You also have a small electronic box sitting inside the plane,

with a flashing RED LED.   The box is only visible if you are standing 

near the plane, even though it blinks 24/7....they think they 

just set it off and are being recorded!!  Nobody, and I mean NOBODY

is going to do a thing wrong when they think they are on camera!!

 

Mike Welch

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Fergus Kyle

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 291
Location: Burlington ON Canada

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 12:21 pm Post subject: Key Ignition Switch

The guy beside me figures he has it all OK.  

(1)     he has a secret spot back behind the cockpit about ¾ of the way up the fuselage (where no magnetic field matters) where he slides his hand up) on mounting the wing. On his hand is secreted a magnetic ring. Inside sits a magnetic slide release which permits the door handle to open.  

(2)     He uses a racing car emergency cut-off switch (to close the battery circuit) which sits on the firewall.  

He cut a 1/2inch hole up in the corner of the instru panel which permits entry of a wooden rod that emulates the switch key.He figures nobody will have the nouse to work out the system, and all he needs is an 8” wooden rod and a magnetic ring,  

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