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mtherr(at)yahoo.com
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 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:20 am Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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Hello group!
As you know, I am working on a Franklin engine installation for my CH601. I am
ready to remove my Subaru EA-81 which is now for sale. This will be a nearly
complete installation (I keep the alternator and a few senders). I will also
include a second engine and many parts and manuals.
Here is a link to my ad...:
http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-autos-et-vehicules-autres-Moteur-Subaru-EA-81-Engine-installation-avion-quasi-complete-W0QQAdIdZ284687563
I will be happy to provide all information to anyone interested; including past
issues and present engine condition. Assembly details are on
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/
Details are below:
Installation moteur pour un Zenair CH601 quasi complète / Nearly complete engine
installation for a Zenair Zodiac CH601
2 moteurs Subaru EA-81 GL 1983 (un spare) / two engines
réduction à courroie Dave Johnson / reduction drive
capot moteur / custom cowling
distributeur Nippodenso avec dual pickups et modules GM
distributeur de rechange Hitachi avec dual pickups
livres et manuels de service / service manuals
plusieurs pièces de rechanges / many spare parts
gaskets extra / extra gaskets
radiateur a eau Volkswagen / radiator
refroidisseur d'huile B&M / oil cooler
intake modifié / intake manifold
carburateur Holley 5200 / carburetor
Échappements en acier / exhaust system
radiateur de chaufferette firefly / cabin heater
support de moteur / engine mount for CH601
support de radiateur / radiator mount
boite a air du carburateur / carburetor heat box
Le moteur sur l'avion a environ 300 heures de vol. The engine installed on the
aircraft has approximately 300 hours of flying hours.
Michel
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Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
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steve.freeman(at)syntaxds
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:36 am Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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Why are you changing out the engine?
Steve
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jeffrey_davidson(at)earth
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:34 am Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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Michel,
Are you aware of the Jim Burkholder accident in a 601 with the Franklin?
Jeff D
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steve.freeman(at)syntaxds
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:00 am Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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HI Jeff,
<< Are you aware of the Jim Burkholder accident in a 601 with the Franklin?>>
Without additional information that seems a little like "bomb" throwing. I can’t think of a single engine that has not had a failure. Was there something about the Franklin incident that would lead you to believe it was a fundamental design flaw? If so, please share with the list so we all can learn from it.
Steve
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mtherr(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:03 pm Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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No I'm not, but I would certainly like getting more details. One of my friend
flew for years with that type of engine and found it very smooth a very little
maintenance. He did a top overhaul after 800 hours. Please share what you
know about this accident.
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Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
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mtherr(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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As I said before and wrote on my web page, my only regret with my plane was not
installing an aircraft engine in the first place. The Subaru appears to be very
resistant to catastrophic failures (I had a friend that lost all the coolant;
the engine was not damaged... another friend broke his crank shaft and he was
able to fly another 5 minutes and get to the runway. I had a valve and valve
spring broken and I could not even notice it while flying --- I noticed lack of
compression on a cylinder during the next preflight). But this being said, it
(the Soob) requires a LOT of maintenance. Mostly valve related maintenance and
reduction drive maintenance.
Last summer, I felt my engine was less powerful and on my last flight, I noticed
a vibration that I did not like... I decided to land at a nearby airport and
concentrate on my Franklin install thereafter.
I don't think much of any automobile engine in an aircraft anymore. It is not
even much cheaper (I put more than 14 k$ in my Soob install including all the
remake I had to do... selling price is NOT based on cost  ). The Franlkin
project will cost me around 20 to 23 k$ including everything that does around
the engine (that started with a 7 k$ bare new engine).
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Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
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jeffrey_davidson(at)earth
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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Michel,
I'll do some digging on it. Jim was a local (Washington, DC) builder that I became friends with years ago. He retired and moved to Florida. About a 2-3 years ago he crashed - engine failure as I remember - hit a tree and burned. His passenger died on the scene and I believe Jim died from his burns a year later or so. Jim always told me that he was never sure that the Franklin was the best idea he had had. There was a Franklin distributor in Winchester, VA at the time but I believe that they are gone now. I will find the NTSB report for you.
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jeffrey_davidson(at)earth
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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Steve,
I am sorry that you took it that way. Jim was a friend of mine so it hit home. I'll dig out the NTSB report. Jim was a member of this list too so his old posts are in the archives. Am I the only one to remember him?
Jeff D.
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steve.freeman(at)syntaxds
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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Hi Jeff,
I am truly sorry for the loss of your friend.
I was not offended by your comment I just thought it lacked substance on a very volatile topic.
I was off the list for several years for many long and boring reasons but I am actively building again.
I also had a Subaru conversion on the first plane I built to 95% completion. I sold that plane to a flying club in Australia where it is flying today. However, they had an engine out over the Bush due to a cooling system failure. It was later determined this was a design flaw and nothing to do with my installation. Thank G-d pilot and passenger walked away from this unscathed after a forced landing.
I am planning on installing a Corvair in my 650 project built by William Wynne. I never thought I would consider another auto conversion but after speaking to William he allayed many of my fears with a very frank (and inspired) recitation of the facts.
Steve Freeman
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jeffrey_davidson(at)earth
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| Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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The NTSB report is available at
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief2.aspx?ev_id 090310X44201&ntsbno=ERA09LA193&akey=1
Unfortunately, there is not much positive or negative about the Franklin engine. I just remember that Jim was not totally thrilled with it.
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mtherr(at)yahoo.com
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| Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:52 am Post subject: Subaru engines for sale |
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Hello group!
I saw no interest for my engine yet... the whole thing for 1500$ (picked up at my home). If I don't have a buyer in the next couple of weeks, I'll sell the stuff at a metal recycling facility on a per pound basis.
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----------------------------Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQhttp://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
From: Michel Therrien <mtherr(at)yahoo.com>
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 11:17:32 AM
Subject: Subaru engines for sale
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr(at)yahoo.com (mtherr(at)yahoo.com)>
Hello group!
As you know, I am working on a Franklin engine installation for my CH601. I am
ready to remove my Subaru EA-81 which is now for sale. This will be a nearly
complete installation (I keep the alternator and a few senders). I will also
include a second engine and many parts and manuals.
Here is a link to my ad...:
http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-autos-et-vehicules-autres-Moteur-Subaru-EA-81-Engine-installation-avion-quasi-complete-W0QQAdIdZ284687563
I will be happy to provide all information to anyone interested; including past
issues and present engine condition. Assembly details are on
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601/
Details are below:
Installation moteur pour un Zenair CH601 quasi complète / Nearly complete engine
installation for a Zenair Zodiac CH601
2 moteurs Subaru EA-81 GL 1983 (un spare) / two engines
réduction à courroie Dave Johnson / reduction drive
capot moteur / custom cowling
distributeur Nippodenso avec dual pickups et modules GM
distributeur de rechange Hitachi avec dual pickups
livres et manuels de service / service manuals
plusieurs pièces de rechanges / many spare parts
gaskets extra / extra gaskets
radiateur a eau Volkswagen / radiator
refroidisseur d'huile B&M / oil cooler
intake modifié / intake manifold
carburateur Holley 5200 / carburetor
Échappements en acier / exhaust system
radiateur de chaufferette firefly / cabin heater
support de moteur / engine mount for CH601
support de radiateur / radiator mount
boite a air du carburateur / carburetor heat box
Le moteur sur l'avion a environ 300 heures de vol. The engine installed on the
aircraft has approximately 300 hours of flying hours.
Michel
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Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
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