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Blumax008(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

In a message dated 5/10/2006 9:19:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,  

blackbird754(at)alltel.net writes:



I run an  electric fuel pump in-line to my pulse pump also

Hey Look Guys...I know each of us has their own set of circumstances &  

reasons...but...I've been flying these contraptions since '79 ((I also  fly a lot), 

probably longer than some of you have aged. Using that as a  basis, I can 

tell you that the simpler you keep your particular situation...the  easier life 

is going to be in regards to keeping things running...and  flying.

 

Just as an example, I've never used anything more than a pulse fuel pump,  

have never had one fail. Right now, none (none) of my instruments are in working 

 condition on my Trike except the Hobbs, whose 503 just recently went over 

1,300  hours since new. Zero major overhauls. Two or three top overhauls. Why do 

I  not have working engine or flight instruments? Don't need 'em. The sounds 

tell  me everything I need to know. Learn from your sight & hearing. Don't 

depend  on falible instruments to tell you something that is probably erroneous 

in  the first place. 

 

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		  From my years of experience working with these engines & aircraft, I  would 

like to humbly offer this advice.
	


 

1) Flying is dangerous, no matter what you stick on the damn thing, if it's  

your time to go...you're gonna' go. Learned that at the University of S.E. 

Asia  too! 

 

2) Keep it simple. If it's easy to put on, it'll be easy to take off.

 

I've had guys show up here with more crap on their motors & airframes  that I 

honestly couldn't see how the things could takeoff, not to mention  how long 

it would take to do a top overhaul...it would probably have taken an  entire 

days work just to remove all the crap.

 

I was Scuba diving off St. Croix one day with an instructor &  about 5 

students. One student had more crap hanging off of him, cameras,  watches, depth 

gauges, strobe equipment, two regulators, a spare emergency  tank etc. Anyway, 

the guy was actually starting to drown under the load of crap,  his bouyancy 

vest would not support him, he got tired of using his fins to stay  afloat & the 

instructor had to go save his life & bring him back to  shore. 

 

I was a Navy trained salvage diver in the Big Vagina, we had a tank,  

regulator, mask, weight belt & a pair of PX sneakers. It worked. It was  simple! Keep 

it simple!

jindoguy(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

As long as the requirement is for redundancy of flight critical components,

where should we hang that second engine?



On 5/10/06, Ralph Hoover <flht99reh(at)columbus.rr.com> wrote:

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 Well, Pat, Your back.



 Pat, first thing that you have to understand is that were "yanks" and her=

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		   in yank land we like excess. Thats why advertising is working so well.



 Ask yourself this question:



 Where else in the world would or could a human being buy a Cadillac

 pick-up truck? And why? I mean, if you want to remodel a room, hauling th=

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		   2x4s in the back of your Caddy is like the cats meow!



 But seriously folks, two cylinders, two carbs, twin plugs, two mags. Why

 not two fuel supplies. Just to be sure.  But in the case I outlined, it m=

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 Ohio Ralph





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David.Lehman

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 265
Location: "Lovely" Fresno CA

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

Or second pilot?...



On 5/10/06, Richard Girard <jindoguy(at)gmail.com> wrote:

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 As long as the requirement is for redundancy of flight critical

 components,

 where should we hang that second engine?

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ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

if your making a dual list dont  forgot the two engines  Ralph "snip" "snip"



   Ellery



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Ralph Hoover

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 206
Location: Central Ohio

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

The second engine will go right below the extra pair of back-up wings and redundant cableing. 



Now tha I added all that stuff. The plane taxies real well but it doesn't seem to want to lift. More motors, more carbs, more fuel!



Really ready for the nice young men in their little white coats to cart me off to OHIO cause I'm ralph!

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:01 am Post subject: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

here in yank land we like excess>>



Hi Ralph,



I think it comes from having far more than your fair share of the worlds 

resources. Wasting things is a national pastime.  I well remember on my 

first visit the the USA, around the early `70s,  coming across `Turf and 

Surf` on a menu. I was horrified that with half the world starving anyone 

could come up with a culinary experiment that was not only supremely 

wasteful but spoiled both the lobster and the steak.



There is no doubt that King George made a wrong decision by allowing you to 

keep America. We did the same with France. If we had hung on to it what a 

great country it would be now. After all the only thing wrong with France is 

that it is full of French.



Cheers



Pat



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jadamson

Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 13

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

Pat wrote ".. I think it comes from having far more than your fair share of the worlds resources. Wasting things is a national pastime. ..."



I take it you meant this as humor.  If, OTOH, you meant this as a social comment, then I don't appreciate it.  The US gives a helluva lot more of its resources to the rest of the world than the rest of the world combined!  And, as thanks, usually get back the kind of thankless comments typified by your post (which, of course, you meant only as humor, I'm sure).  Be glad we had some resources to waste - as our national pasttime - sixty or so years back.



And maybe our history books are a little revisionist, but I never had the impression King George "allowed" us to keep our little colonies.  We fought for 'em!



What was it the Brits used to say about US troops?  Something like "Over-paid, over-sexed, and .. over HERE"?  Typical British gratitude.  I know, what you really meant to say was "The Germans are kicking our a##es.  Thanks for helping out."



As for the French .. we agree.  



If I've misinterpreted your meaning, my apologies.  I just have grown a little weary of US-bashing.  Better if we stick to subjects we all agree on .. like Kolbs.

George Myers

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 76
Location: San Marcos, Texas

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

What an imbezzel. What a maroon. 

 

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decarr(at)hughes.net
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:24 am Post subject: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

That was very well written and I agree completely. I am sure Pat meant hi=

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comment as humor but We Americans are very sensitive to that type of comm=

ent

by the rest of the world. We seem to be wasting our resources by sending

them all over the world and watching the rest of the world sucking up our

kindness and then bashing us. I think we can be forgiven if we are gettin=

g a

little sensitive about it.



DEC

Wisconsin

 

 

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slyck(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

Inappropriate.



On 12, May 2006, at 10:52 AM, jadamson wrote:



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 Pat wrote ".. I think it comes from having far more than your fair 

 share of the worlds resources. Wasting things is a national pastime. 

 ..."



 I take it you meant this as humor.  If, OTOH, you meant this as a 

 social comment, then I don't appreciate it.  The US gives a helluva 

 lot more of its resources to the rest of the world than the rest of 

 the world combined!  And, as thanks, usually get back the kind of 

 thankless comments typified by your post (which, of course, you meant 

 only as humor, I'm sure).  Be glad we had some resources to waste - as 

 our national pasttime - sixty or so years back.



 And maybe our history books are a little revisionist, but I never had 

 the impression King George "allowed" us to keep our little colonies.  

 We fought for 'em!



 What was it the Brits used to say about US troops?  Something like 

 "Over-paid, over-sexed, and .. over HERE"?  Typical British gratitude. 

  I know, what you really meant to say was "The Germans are kicking our 

 a##es.  Thanks for helping out."



 As for the French .. we agree.  



 If I've misinterpreted your meaning, my apologies.  I just have grown 

 a little weary of US-bashing.  Better if we stick to subjects we all 

 agree on .. like Kolbs.





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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:00 am Post subject: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

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Ralph Hoover

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 206
Location: Central Ohio

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

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		  I take it you meant this as humor. If, OTOH, you meant this as a social comment, then I don't appreciate it. 	


    

  

The next one of you maroons that pick on my Identical twin Brother Patt will have me to deal with and I know where everyone of you lives!   I don't care how tough you might think you are, worst case scenario, when you knock me out I will fall, ALL 230 pounds of me directly on your centerline!   



That said, Patt was responding to MY earlier comment. I believe he may have thought he was responding to me off site. Sorry if it ticked off any of you other red blooded Americans.   



Ralph, up in arms in Ohio, Hoover



Can you people imagine how absolutely dry and boring this Kolb site would be without the humor of the Patt Ladds and the Buffords and the John Jumgs, and the....

Ralph Hoover

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 206
Location: Central Ohio

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

For those interested, the below is what Patt responded to. NOT an attack on American values. I started the ruckus and I'm big enough to apologies!  



So this ends the renewed war with England....Now somebody play a Roger Whittaker song for Patt!    



The real confusion is that I started this thread and now there are 3 or 4 areas where the responses go. Matt, any help here?  



Cornfused here in Ohio Ralph!



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Well, Pat, Your back. 



Pat, first thing that you have to understand is that were "yanks" and here in yank land we like excess. That’s why advertising is working so well. 



Ask yourself this question: 



Where else in the world would or could a human being buy a Cadillac pick-up truck? And why? I mean, if you want to remodel a room, hauling the 2x4’s in the back of your Caddy is like the cats meow! 



But seriously folks, two cylinders, two carbs, twin plugs, two mag’s. Why not two fuel supplies. Just to be sure. But in the case I outlined, it may have been the reason for the problem. Both fuel pumps worked then and still do now but alas, no fuel. 



Ohio Ralph

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:57 pm Post subject: Redundancy.. ITm not gonna repeat myself !

Wasting things is a national pastime.>>



Hi John,



As you rightly assumed it was a light hearted jibe at the well known 

American characteristic of having everything bigger  and better than 

anywhere or anyone in the world. In fact usually bigger and better than all 

the rest of the world put together.



It was a continuation/reply to a post from another listee (American) who 

more or less said the same thing and I am not quite sure how it appeared on 

the general list. Finger trouble as usual.



Of Course King George didn`t `allow` you to have America. It was a Joke!. We 

would have won that war if you had stood in straight lines wearing bright 

red coats  so that we could shoot at you. All this hiding, and firing from 

cover was demned unsporting dont`cha know.



Cheers



Pat



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