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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:29 pm Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

Hi all,



I'm perhaps headed East for vacation with the kids, and need

some recommendations for airports to stay at and sights near

those airports in some cases.  The framework is this:



Wisconsin to

West Virginia to

Maryland

<pause to tour washington DC>

Delaware to

Virgina to

North Carolina to

South Carolina

Back Home



I really don't have a defined plan other than I know I'll spend at

least a couple or 3 days in D.C.   The other states I'd either

want to just do as a quick stop to have landed there, or as

a short overnight (like to see the beach or something local

and then head out the next day).



The goal is to see D.C. and hit some of the states we haven't

landed in yet, and get the best scenery we can.  Somehow

if I could shoehorn a landing in New York, that would be

cool too.



If you have any favorite airports, places with great FBO's,

cheap gas, convenient tiedowns, and/or cool sights to see

in the area, let me know where to go in that state. I'll

probably only stop at one airport per state, but if I

can build a nice circle trip, I'll be happy.



Thanks in advance!

Tim



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Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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N777TY

Joined: 09 Apr 2006
Posts: 69
Location: Charlotte, NC

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:16 am Post subject: Re: Need Airport/Sightsee advice

It would be a shame to miss Charleston if you're coming all the way down to SC.  You can try CHS (for better ground transportation options).  An overnight just to scratch the surface of what to do and what to see down there.. 



If you're flying through the NC midlands around lunch time, stop by 5NC3 for some tasty pulled pork BBQ...



Enjoy the trip.. sounds like a lot of fun.

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N777TY

Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

These are some great suggestions, thanks!

I am glad I didn't forget Kitty Hawk thanks to this thread.

Thanks to to the offline emails Carl and Mike.  I'm in the

middle of throwing together some bags as we just made

our decision of East instead of West a few minutes

ago.  We'll be leaving today and probably doing

the route in reverse to allow the weather to pass

through D.C.    So for the next couple days I'll be

headed wherever things look good in SC and NC.



Then enroute I'll have to educate myself on the DC

SFRA and figure out which is the best place to come

in from the South.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

do not archive

On 6/11/2011 8:16 AM, N777TY wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   



 It would be a shame to miss Charleston if you're coming all the way down to SC.  You can try CHS (for better ground transportation options).  An overnight just to scratch the surface of what to do and what to see down there..



 If you're flying through the NC midlands around lunch time, stop by 5NC3 for some tasty pulled pork BBQ...



 Enjoy the trip.. sounds like a lot of fun.



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 RV-7A

 N777TY

coop85(at)verizon.net
Guest

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:37 am Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

Tim,

   While I haven't tried the touristy part yet, Luray Caverns (KLUA, rev W45) is a great fuel stop but they will also drive you over to the caverns to get out of the heat and see some amazing underground formations.  http://www.luraycaverns.com/

Marcus

On Jun 11, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Tim Olson wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 These are some great suggestions, thanks!

 I am glad I didn't forget Kitty Hawk thanks to this thread.

 Thanks to to the offline emails Carl and Mike.  I'm in the

 middle of throwing together some bags as we just made

 our decision of East instead of West a few minutes

 ago.  We'll be leaving today and probably doing

 the route in reverse to allow the weather to pass

 through D.C.    So for the next couple days I'll be

 headed wherever things look good in SC and NC.

 Then enroute I'll have to educate myself on the DC

 SFRA and figure out which is the best place to come

 in from the South.

 Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

 do not archive

 On 6/11/2011 8:16 AM, N777TY wrote:

> 

> 

> It would be a shame to miss Charleston if you're coming all the way down to SC.  You can try CHS (for better ground transportation options).  An overnight just to scratch the surface of what to do and what to see down there..

> 

> If you're flying through the NC midlands around lunch time, stop by 5NC3 for some tasty pulled pork BBQ...

> 

> Enjoy the trip.. sounds like a lot of fun.

> 

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> RV-7A

> N777TY

> 

>

partner14

Joined: 12 Jan 2008
Posts: 540
Location: Granbury Texas

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:40 pm Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

Not sure why anyone would want to fly into the SFRA.  I took the course, but then flew into W29, Bay Bridge.... just outside the arc.... really neat airport, and a nice flight there, especially from the south.  Cut across the bay to the east side, and it's a beautiful flight.  44 miles to the White House from W29.  

Don McDonald

 

Tim, looked for your number, but couldn't find it... call if you have questions.  682-936-4282



From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:23 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"



 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>



These are some great suggestions, thanks!

I am glad I didn't forget Kitty Hawk thanks to this thread.

Thanks to to the offline emails Carl and Mike.  I'm in the

middle of throwing together some bags as we just made

our decision of East instead of West a few minutes

ago.  We'll be leaving today and probably doing

the route in reverse to allow the weather to pass

through D.C.    So for the next couple days I'll be

headed wherever things look good in SC and NC.



Then enroute I'll have to educate myself on the DC

SFRA and figure out which is the best place to come

in from the South.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

do not archive

On 6/11/2011 8:16 AM, N777TY wrote:

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		   -->  RV10-List message posted by: "N777TY"<microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com (microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com)>



 It would be a shame to miss Charleston if you're coming all the way down to SC.  You can try CHS (for better ground transportation options).  An overnight just to scratch the surface of what to do and what to see down there..



 If you're flying through the NC midlands around lunch time, stop by 5NC3 for some tasty pulled pork BBQ...



 Enjoy the trip.. sounds like a lot of fun.



 --------

 RV-7A

 N777TY===


	




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Don A. McDonald
40636

jbeasley(at)nc.rr.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:18 pm Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

As a good North Carolinian I second KFFA and sightseeing at Kill Devil Hills and Kitty Hawk is great for the family. Flying into Leesburg (KFYO) is "relatively" painless for the SFRA and is an excellent executive airport with Hertz onsite. It's a little bit of a hike to downtown DC but nice airport and very good resources.

Jonathan Beasley

Durham, NC (8NC8)

RV-10 -- Tail Cone

From:  Don McDonald <building_partner(at)yahoo.com (building_partner(at)yahoo.com)>

Reply-To:  <rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)>

Date:  Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:37:21 -0700 (PDT)

To:  "rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)>

Subject:  Re: Re: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"



Not sure why anyone would want to fly into the SFRA.  I took the course, but then flew into W29, Bay Bridge.... just outside the arc.... really neat airport, and a nice flight there, especially from the south.  Cut across the bay to the east side, and it's a beautiful flight.  44 miles to the White House from W29.  

Don McDonald

 

Tim, looked for your number, but couldn't find it... call if you have questions.  682-936-4282



From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:23 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"



 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>



These are some great suggestions, thanks!

I am glad I didn't forget Kitty Hawk thanks to this thread.

Thanks to to the offline emails Carl and Mike.  I'm in the

middle of throwing together some bags as we just made

our decision of East instead of West a few minutes

ago.  We'll be leaving today and probably doing

the route in reverse to allow the weather to pass

through D.C.    So for the next couple days I'll be

headed wherever things look good in SC and NC.



Then enroute I'll have to educate myself on the DC

SFRA and figure out which is the best place to come

in from the South.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

do not archive

On 6/11/2011 8:16 AM, N777TY wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   -->  RV10-List message posted by: "N777TY"<microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com (microsmurfer(at)yahoo.com)>



 It would be a shame to miss Charleston if you're coming all the way down to SC.  You can try CHS (for better ground transportation options).  An overnight just to scratch the surface of what to do and what to see down there..



 If you're flying through the NC midlands around lunch time, stop by 5NC3 for some tasty pulled pork BBQ...



 Enjoy the trip.. sounds like a lot of fun.



 --------

 RV-7A

 N777TY===


	




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pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:38 am Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

Land at Culpeper VA (CRJ) to call the DC ADIZ and figure out which "gate" to

enter.



Not as bad as it sounds.  I took my Pietenpol Air Camper in there a couple

of years ago, and landed at Dulles Int'l (IAD).



Jack Phillips

#40610 Wings

Raleigh, NC



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cjay

Joined: 15 Dec 2007
Posts: 53

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Need Airport/Sightsee advice

Jack,



With the SFRA, I didn't know you could even fly VFR into Dulles? You just file the SFRA flight plan and then talk to approach?  I'll have to try it sometime.  

You really flew your Air Camper in?



cjay[/quote]

pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:14 pm Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

Yes, you've got to have a transponder and radio, and you have to get a clearance just like going into Class B, but it can be done.  If you're instrument rated it is actually easier to go in on an instrument flight plan.  VFR is a bit of a pain.  

   

Let me caution you that they haven't got a clue about little airplanes there.  I landed and got it stopped in about 400', but went just past the first turnoff.  The next taxiway was over a mile down the runway.  I'm probably the only pilot who ever asked Dulles tower for permission to turn around and back-taxi to the turnoff, but they granted it.  

   

We parked with several other planes for the night at Dulles Jet Service (we had all been invited to bring our planes to the Udvar-Hazy Museum for their Be a Pilot Family Day).  Dulles Jet had acres of concrete, without a tie-down in sight.  My Pietenpol has 21" wheels (I'm flying it to Oshkosh if you want to see it) and with thunderstorms forecast for that evening I was not comfortable just leaving it chocked overnight.  I inquired about putting it in the hangar and was told "$198".  I said I just needed it for a night - not the whole month.  That WAS the price for one night.  

   

I remarked that with those big wheels my 700 lb airplane would hop a chock in a heartbeat, but I guess it wouldn't blow into that Gulfstream over there.  When I got there the next morning, my plane was in a hangar - no charge.  

   

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Jack Phillips  

Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP  

RV-10 #40610  Wings  

Raleigh, NC  

   

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 From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjay

 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 1:50 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

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Jack,  

   

With the SFRA, I didn't know you could even fly VFR into Dulles? You just file the SFRA flight plan and then talk to approach?  I'll have to try it sometime.    

You really flew your Air Camper in?  

   

cjay[/quote]  

   

   

   

   

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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:41 pm Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

Also remember that you do have to go online and  take a TEST in order to fly within 60 n.m. of KDCA.  And then of course  either file a special VFR flight plan or file IFR to go within the 30 n.m.  radius of KDCA.  The Test is easy, and should only take 45 minutes or  so.  When I went into Baybridge, East of KBWI,  ATC was very  helpfull.  I came up from the South and just skirted the 30 n.m. arc from  KDCA. 

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:44 pm Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

An update for y'all...

The Charleston suggestion was great!  We toured the Yorktown today among other things, and tomorrow we're heading North through Kitty Hawk and up to the DC area.  We've got a lot of stops along the way.  I have to take the SFRA course tonight.

Is it customary to get flight following up the coast at 1000agl past all the restricted airspace in NC, or just do it alone not talking to anyone, staying out of the airspaces?

I'm happy either way....but just want to know what's common.

Looking forward to the trip.  Leaning towards Leesburg as the entry point.

Tim





On Jun 12, 2011, at 5:10 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net (pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:



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Yes, you've got to have a transponder and radio, and you have to get a clearance just like going into Class B, but it can be done.  If you're instrument rated it is actually easier to go in on an instrument flight plan.  VFR is a bit of a pain.  

   

Let me caution you that they haven't got a clue about little airplanes there.  I landed and got it stopped in about 400', but went just past the first turnoff.  The next taxiway was over a mile down the runway.  I'm probably the only pilot who ever asked Dulles tower for permission to turn around and back-taxi to the turnoff, but they granted it.  

   

We parked with several other planes for the night at Dulles Jet Service (we had all been invited to bring our planes to the Udvar-Hazy Museum for their Be a Pilot Family Day).  Dulles Jet had acres of concrete, without a tie-down in sight.  My Pietenpol has 21" wheels (I'm flying it to Oshkosh if you want to see it) and with thunderstorms forecast for that evening I was not comfortable just leaving it chocked overnight.  I inquired about putting it in the hangar and was told "$198".  I said I just needed it for a night - not the whole month.  That WAS the price for one night.  

   

I remarked that with those big wheels my 700 lb airplane would hop a chock in a heartbeat, but I guess it wouldn't blow into that Gulfstream over there.  When I got there the next morning, my plane was in a hangar - no charge.  

   

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Jack Phillips  

Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP  

RV-10 #40610  Wings  

Raleigh, NC  

   

-----Original Message-----

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 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 1:50 PM

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 Subject: Re: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"  

   

--> RV10-List message posted by: "cjay" <cgfinney(at)yahoo.com (cgfinney(at)yahoo.com)>  

   

Jack,  

   

With the SFRA, I didn't know you could even fly VFR into Dulles? You just file the SFRA flight plan and then talk to approach?  I'll have to try it sometime.    

You really flew your Air Camper in?  

   

cjay 	
  

   

   

   

   

Read this topic online here:  

   

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342790#342790  

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

  

  

  

  

  

  



  



  

  

  



  



  

  

  

  

  

  

   

   

     

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

Yep, I do intend to get online tonight and take the test, so I

should be ready to go.



If one of you more local guys wants to comment on my

potential route at the end, punch go to

http://runwayfinder.com/

and copy and paste this string into the line:

KWWD; VPAXI; VPACE;  BRV;  FLUKY;  CSN; KLUA; W99; KJYO

Very roughly, this longer version is what I'm kind of thinking

for tomorrow:

KCHS; VPNPO; VPRRS; SUT; 01NC; PMZ; KFFA; KNTU; KMFV; KOXB; KGED; KWWD; 

VPAXI; VPACE; BRV; FLUKY; CSN; KLUA; W99; KJYO



..of course, completely avoiding any restricted areas.  I'd

rather just avoid them then deal with the constant radio work

to see if they're active or not.  If I had flight following it

would be easier, but this routing kind of leaves me to be

fairly free other than when passing by some bigger airports

where I'd have to call approach and/or go out over the ocean

a couple miles.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD



On 6/12/2011 6:38 PM, Thane States wrote:

[quote] Also remember that you do have to go online and take a TEST in order to

 fly within 60 n.m. of KDCA. And then of course either file a special VFR

 flight plan or file IFR to go within the 30 n.m. radius of KDCA. The

 Test is easy, and should only take 45 minutes or so. When I went into

 Baybridge, East of KBWI, ATC was very helpfull. I came up from the South

 and just skirted the 30 n.m. arc from KDCA.

 Thane

 rv-10

 180hrs.



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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
Guest

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:52 pm Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

Flying along the East Coast or Outer Banks I normally use flight following.  No need to stay low from Charleston to FFA.  Stay east of the areas around Cherry Point as those areas tend to be hot.

 

FFA to JYO - file for the SFRA before you leave FFA, giving them an estimated arrival time at the JYO entry point.  Stay south and west outside the SFRA until you get to the JYO entry point.  Reminder that you will need to say under the Dulles (IAD) class B as your come up from the south.  Here is the link: http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_4965.html

 

An alternative is to stay out of the SFRA and land at Stafford Regional (RMN).  Various hotels and B&Bs available in Fredericksburg and you can ride the VRE train downtown.

 

Currituck, NC (ONX) has the best fuel price around and is right on your flight path.  Top off there before you get hit in the wallet at JYO.

 

Carl

 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 7:42 PM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

 

An update for y'all...



 



The Charleston suggestion was great!  We toured the Yorktown today among other things, and tomorrow we're heading North through Kitty Hawk and up to the DC area.  We've got a lot of stops along the way.  I have to take the SFRA course tonight.



Is it customary to get flight following up the coast at 1000agl past all the restricted airspace in NC, or just do it alone not talking to anyone, staying out of the airspaces?



I'm happy either way....but just want to know what's common.



Looking forward to the trip.  Leaning towards Leesburg as the entry point.



Tim



 

On Jun 12, 2011, at 5:10 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net (pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

[quote]

Yes, you've got to have a transponder and radio, and you have to get a clearance just like going into Class B, but it can be done.  If you're instrument rated it is actually easier to go in on an instrument flight plan.  VFR is a bit of a pain.

 

Let me caution you that they haven't got a clue about little airplanes there.  I landed and got it stopped in about 400', but went just past the first turnoff.  The next taxiway was over a mile down the runway.  I'm probably the only pilot who ever asked Dulles tower for permission to turn around and back-taxi to the turnoff, but they granted it.

 

We parked with several other planes for the night at Dulles Jet Service (we had all been invited to bring our planes to the Udvar-Hazy Museum for their Be a Pilot Family Day).  Dulles Jet had acres of concrete, without a tie-down in sight.  My Pietenpol has 21" wheels (I'm flying it to Oshkosh if you want to see it) and with thunderstorms forecast for that evening I was not comfortable just leaving it chocked overnight.  I inquired about putting it in the hangar and was told "$198".  I said I just needed it for a night - not the whole month.  That WAS the price for one night.

 

I remarked that with those big wheels my 700 lb airplane would hop a chock in a heartbeat, but I guess it wouldn't blow into that Gulfstream over there.  When I got there the next morning, my plane was in a hangar - no charge.

 

<image002.jpg>

 

Jack Phillips

Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP

RV-10 #40610  Wings

Raleigh, NC

 

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carl.froehlich(at)verizon
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

I meant stay west of the areas around Cherry Point.

From: Carl Froehlich [mailto:carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net] 

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:49 PM

To: 'rv10-list(at)matronics.com'

Subject: RE: Re: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

Flying along the East Coast or Outer Banks I normally use flight following.  No need to stay low from Charleston to FFA.  Stay east of the areas around Cherry Point as those areas tend to be hot.

FFA to JYO - file for the SFRA before you leave FFA, giving them an estimated arrival time at the JYO entry point.  Stay south and west outside the SFRA until you get to the JYO entry point.  Reminder that you will need to say under the Dulles (IAD) class B as your come up from the south.  Here is the link: http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_4965.html

An alternative is to stay out of the SFRA and land at Stafford Regional (RMN).  Various hotels and B&Bs available in Fredericksburg and you can ride the VRE train downtown.

Currituck, NC (ONX) has the best fuel price around and is right on your flight path.  Top off there before you get hit in the wallet at JYO.

Carl

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 7:42 PM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

An update for y'all...

The Charleston suggestion was great!  We toured the Yorktown today among other things, and tomorrow we're heading North through Kitty Hawk and up to the DC area.  We've got a lot of stops along the way.  I have to take the SFRA course tonight.

Is it customary to get flight following up the coast at 1000agl past all the restricted airspace in NC, or just do it alone not talking to anyone, staying out of the airspaces?

I'm happy either way....but just want to know what's common.

Looking forward to the trip.  Leaning towards Leesburg as the entry point.

Tim

On Jun 12, 2011, at 5:10 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net (pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

[quote]

Yes, you've got to have a transponder and radio, and you have to get a clearance just like going into Class B, but it can be done.  If you're instrument rated it is actually easier to go in on an instrument flight plan.  VFR is a bit of a pain.

Let me caution you that they haven't got a clue about little airplanes there.  I landed and got it stopped in about 400', but went just past the first turnoff.  The next taxiway was over a mile down the runway.  I'm probably the only pilot who ever asked Dulles tower for permission to turn around and back-taxi to the turnoff, but they granted it.

We parked with several other planes for the night at Dulles Jet Service (we had all been invited to bring our planes to the Udvar-Hazy Museum for their Be a Pilot Family Day).  Dulles Jet had acres of concrete, without a tie-down in sight.  My Pietenpol has 21" wheels (I'm flying it to Oshkosh if you want to see it) and with thunderstorms forecast for that evening I was not comfortable just leaving it chocked overnight.  I inquired about putting it in the hangar and was told "$198".  I said I just needed it for a night - not the whole month.  That WAS the price for one night.

I remarked that with those big wheels my 700 lb airplane would hop a chock in a heartbeat, but I guess it wouldn't blow into that Gulfstream over there.  When I got there the next morning, my plane was in a hangar - no charge.

<image002.jpg>

Jack Phillips

Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP

RV-10 #40610  Wings

Raleigh, NC

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the East"

Great tips again!



I probably won't be going into JYO tomorrow unless I get

ahead of schedule.  We don't generally make reservations

anywhere because we don't know when we'll get in.  That's

just the point we'll try to use to get into DC.



Regarding the outer banks, and the staying low...part of

the staying low is just for sightseeing.  It passes the time

quick when you see all the stuff up close.  Regarding the

outer banks though, I see these VFR waypoints:

VPATO

VPOKY

VPGHI

VPUMO

VPWZO



It looks like these are actually specifically designed to

give you waypoints to use to route around the restricted

areas, over the outer banks, so that you stay out of their

hair.  Doesn't that seem to be the case?  So if I did that,

I could get a great coastal tour and end up at KFFA.

The only thing I see as a difference is that it looks like

a lot of marine conservation area, so I'd have to be at

2000' not 1000'



This was my original route:

KCHS; VPNPO; VPRRS; SUT; 01NC; PMZ; KFFA; KNTU; KMFV; KOXB; KGED; KWWD; 

VPAXI; VPACE; BRV; FLUKY; CSN; KLUA; W99; KJYO

This is the coastal route:

KCHS; VPNPO; VPRRS; SUT; 01NC; EWN; VPATO; VPOKY; VPGHI; VPUMO; VPWZO; 

KFFA; KONX; KNTU; KMFV; KOXB; KGED; KWWD; VPAXI; VPACE; BRV; FLUKY; CSN; 

KLUA; W99; KJYO



Thanks for the tip on KRMN.  I might keep that in my back

pocket because if we get pressed for time, that would

be a good stopping place along our route.



As you can see by the routing, we're going to try to have

landed in SC, NC, VA, DE, MD, NJ, and WV on this trip...and

by tomorrow if I'm lucky I'll have been on the ground in

all of them.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD

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On 6/12/2011 7:48 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:

[quote] Flying along the East Coast or Outer Banks I normally use flight

 following. No need to stay low from Charleston to FFA. Stay east of the

 areas around Cherry Point as those areas tend to be hot.



 FFA to JYO - file for the SFRA before you leave FFA, giving them an

 estimated arrival time at the JYO entry point. Stay south and west

 outside the SFRA until you get to the JYO entry point. Reminder that you

 will need to say under the Dulles (IAD) class B as your come up from the

 south. Here is the link: http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_0_4965.html



 An alternative is to stay out of the SFRA and land at Stafford Regional

 (RMN). Various hotels and B&Bs available in Fredericksburg and you can

 ride the VRE train downtown.



 Currituck, NC (ONX) has the best fuel price around and is right on your

 flight path. Top off there before you get hit in the wallet at JYO.



 Carl



 *From:*owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

 [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Olson

 *Sent:* Sunday, June 12, 2011 7:42 PM

 *To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 *Subject:* Re: Re: Need Airport/Sightsee advice "Best of the

 East"



 An update for y'all...



 The Charleston suggestion was great! We toured the Yorktown today among

 other things, and tomorrow we're heading North through Kitty Hawk and up

 to the DC area. We've got a lot of stops along the way. I have to take

 the SFRA course tonight.



 Is it customary to get flight following up the coast at 1000agl past all

 the restricted airspace in NC, or just do it alone not talking to

 anyone, staying out of the airspaces?



 I'm happy either way....but just want to know what's common.



 Looking forward to the trip. Leaning towards Leesburg as the entry point.



 Tim

 On Jun 12, 2011, at 5:10 PM, "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net

 <mailto:pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net>> wrote:



     Yes, you've got to have a transponder and radio, and you have to get

     a clearance just like going into Class B, but it can be done. If

     you're instrument rated it is actually easier to go in on an

     instrument flight plan. VFR is a bit of a pain.



     Let me caution you that they haven't got a clue about little

     airplanes there. I landed and got it stopped in about 400', but went

     just past the first turnoff. The next taxiway was over a mile down

     the runway. I'm probably the only pilot who ever asked Dulles tower

     for permission to turn around and back-taxi to the turnoff, but they

     granted it.



     We parked with several other planes for the night at Dulles Jet

     Service (we had all been invited to bring our planes to the

     Udvar-Hazy Museum for their Be a Pilot Family Day). Dulles Jet had

     acres of concrete, without a tie-down in sight. My Pietenpol has 21"

     wheels (I'm flying it to Oshkosh if you want to see it) and with

     thunderstorms forecast for that evening I was not comfortable just

     leaving it chocked overnight. I inquired about putting it in the

     hangar and was told "$198". I said I just needed it for a night -

     not the whole month. That WAS the price for one night.



     I remarked that with those big wheels my 700 lb airplane would hop a

     chock in a heartbeat, but I guess it wouldn't blow into that

     Gulfstream over there. When I got there the next morning, my plane

     was in a hangar - no charge.



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     Jack Phillips



     Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP



     RV-10 #40610 Wings



     Raleigh, NC



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