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occom

Joined: 26 Aug 2006
Posts: 404

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:38 pm Post subject: Bungees, really need help guys!

OK, I've been trying and I'm not making much headway. The lugs that the eye

loops hook over are not where my instructions show them on my Model IV 1050.

The bungees I removed were 92" and the ones I have are somewhat thicker and

only 60" long. The instructions supplied by Denney->Skystar are vague at

best so I can use the help!



I've been through the archives on both lists and cannot see whether or how

these will fit. I have my fingers in ice water and hope to make another try

on Saturday. 



I'm sure many of you have done this! Please help out. Is there room for six

loops at the bottom? My gear has a fence that keeps the cords from sliding

toward the end. Can I pile the loops? Are there better instructions? What

makes it easier? (besides a helper, perhaps mine will show for round 2)

dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

Dave,



I think that I have posted many times the easiet way  that I have found.



Use a hammer handle, I can do both side in 5  to 10 mins with a helper.



double that without. 



60"  hmm I think they a bit longer........  66" rings a bell  I got a bunch in shop hanging that I got already made up....... I will go measure after dinner.  



Worst part is those stupid big bulky  aluminum nico press that were used.   I just crimped with heavy wire and tape them up .  Slide right in.



If you cannot get 6 wraps go with 5  it will be a bit mushy. 



make sure you got on safety cables -- so think they are dumb but trust me they are not.



EDIT I found on google search "bungee install on kitfox"



http://rotaxaircraft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=87

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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject: Bungees, really need help guys!

Dave,



I don't know if the following addresses the issues you have, but Skystar in 

the distant past apparently had trouble getting the 3/8" bungee material and 

at one time substituted the 5/16" material.  To get the same amount of 

rubber around the hard points, they increased the length and number of 

turns.  The  manual calls for 7 wraps of the 3/8" bungee material.  I don't 

recall the number of wraps for the 5/16" but ten or eleven  sounds about 

right.



As far as installing them, I always did it alone.  I made a wedge of wood. 

You might want to take a file or saw and score across the wedge to better 

grip the bungee.  After completing a wrap, I fed it through the bungee 

bulkhead and pulling from the top, pulled  as tight as I could.  Then 

without letting it slip wrapped it toward the ground.  I put the wedge 

between the bungee and the top tube in the bulkhead in a fashion that the 

relaxing bungee draws the wedge tighter into the space.  I proceeded that 

way until the last wrap.  I usually found that I had plenty of slack to 

complete the attachment, then removed the wedge and everything moved back 

into  position.  After a couple of flights with my typical landings, the 

bungees moved into equal wrap lengths.   Yes,  I think it is typical to have 

one wrap overlapping.



Regarding the Spring Gear.  We are just here to help any way we can.  That 

is why we also carry the small crimp 3/8" bungee cord.



Hope this helps.



Lowell



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From: "Dave " <occom(at)ns.sympatico.ca>

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:35 PM

To: <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Bungees, really need help guys!



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 OK, I've been trying and I'm not making much headway. The lugs that the 

 eye

 loops hook over are not where my instructions show them on my Model IV 

 1050.

 The bungees I removed were 92" and the ones I have are somewhat thicker 

 and

 only 60" long. The instructions supplied by Denney->Skystar are vague at

 best so I can use the help!



 I've been through the archives on both lists and cannot see whether or how

 these will fit. I have my fingers in ice water and hope to make another 

 try

 on Saturday.



 I'm sure many of you have done this! Please help out. Is there room for 

 six

 loops at the bottom? My gear has a fence that keeps the cords from sliding

 toward the end. Can I pile the loops? Are there better instructions? What

 makes it easier? (besides a helper, perhaps mine will show for round 2)

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject: Bungees, really need help guys!

On 6/23/2011 2:35 PM, Dave wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I'm sure many of you have done this! Please help out. Is there room for six

 loops at the bottom? My gear has a fence that keeps the cords from sliding

 toward the end. Can I pile the loops? Are there better instructions? What

 makes it easier? (besides a helper, perhaps mine will show for round 2)

    

Personnel: 1
	




Procedure:



1. Tie wheels together. (It doesn't take much as friction does most of 

the work. You'll want to put in a trucker's hitch to snug gear hard 

against the fuselage.)



2. CAREFULLY unwind the old bungee. Don't just cut it unless you like 

doing fabric work.



3. Put on new bungee getting as many wraps as you can without working 

hard. Attach loop to peg.



4. Tape the leather to the vice grip jaws.



5. Take channel locks and CAREFULLY pull slack out of the bungee, 

starting at the "inboard" end and working out. When you get to the last 

loop, pull the slack then clamp the bungee where it goes over the upper 

tube. DO NOT TRY TO GET ALL THE SLACK OUT, JUST ENOUGH TO GET ANOTHER 

WRAP. The remaining bungee will go around the lower tube and back to the 

peg. This remainder will have a lot of slack in it.



6. Using the slack, take another wrap around the fuselage tubes.



7. Repeat 5 and 6 until you get six wraps. It turns out to be quite 

easy. Just be careful not to shred the bungee with the channel locks or 

vice grips. It doesn't take much pressure to get a grip and you don't 

have to pull hard.



Guy Buchanan

Ramona, CA

Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded

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Tom Jones

Joined: 12 Mar 2006
Posts: 752
Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

I have the letter from the factory about different length bungees.  It says the 3/8" cord is 66 inches long and requires 6 wraps.  The 5/16" is 90 inches long and requires thirteen wraps.



The rubber stop on the end of the gear should be trimmed to allow one wrap to sit outside the fence.



For what it's worth the replacement cords I put on a couple years ago are 3/8"  and 60 inches long.  I got 6 wraps.  It took just about 15 minutes each using vise grips with the jaws taped up.



A while back I saw a post, but of course can't find it now, from a guy that used clamps similar to these  http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=241624-52800-XCRU5&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=1068709&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=req&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1  he said it was a fairly easy job using these clamps.  I'm going to get some for my next bungee replacement session.



The trick is to stretch them as tight as you can on each wrap and do not lose any progress on the last wrap while you stretch the cord on the next wrap.  use the clamp to hold each wrap as the next wrap is made.



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dave

Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

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		  60" hmm I think they a bit longer........ 66" rings a bell I got a bunch in shop hanging that I got already made up....... I will go measure after dinner. 



	


Yup I was right  66" it is .  



hammer handle works great , no worry of damage to the new bungee. 



If you still cannot figure it then  buy a bush gear  --  !!

sdemeyer

Joined: 31 Jul 2009
Posts: 45

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:02 pm Post subject: Bungees, really need help guys!

The last time I did mine ( I've since changed to bush gear ) I used a tie-down strap hooked between the bungee loop and one of the cross member tubes in the roof. Pull the bungee tight and then use the channel locks to carefully work out the slack in the bungee wraps. Then you can easily hold enough tension with your hand to get another wrap around the gear supports. I used this method for the last two wraps and it was very easy to do myself in about 10 minutes for each side.

From: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan(at)cox.net>

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:48 PM

Subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan(at)cox.net (gebuchanan(at)cox.net)>

On 6/23/2011 2:35 PM, Dave wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I'm sure many of you have done this! Please help out. Is there room for six

 loops at the bottom? My gear has a fence that keeps the cords from sliding

 toward the end. Can I pile the loops? Are there better instructions? What

 makes it easier? (besides a helper, perhaps mine will show for round 2)

Personnel: 1

Procedure:

1. Tie wheels together. (It doesn't take much as friction does most of the work. You'll want to put in a trucker's hitch to snug gear hard against the fuselage.)

2. CAREFULLY unwind the old bungee. Don't just cut it unless you like doing fabric work.

3. Put on new bungee getting as many wraps as you can without working hard. Attach loop to peg.

4. Tape the  leather to the vice grip jaws.

5. Take channel locks and CAREFULLY pull slack out of the bungee, starting at the "inboard" end and working out. When you get to the last loop, pull the slack then clamp the bungee where it goes over the upper tube. DO NOT TRY TO GET ALL THE SLACK OUT, JUST ENOUGH TO GET ANOTHER WRAP. The remaining bungee will go around the lower tube and back to the peg. This remainder will have a lot of slack in it.

6. Using the slack, take another wrap around the fuselage tubes.

7. Repeat 5 and 6 until you get six wraps. It turns out to be quite easy. Just be careful not to shred the bungee with the channel locks or vice grips. It doesn't take much pressure to get a grip and you don't have to pull hard.

Guy Buchanan

Ramona, CA

Kitfox IV-1200 / 592-C / Warp 3cs / =          - p;                 -Matt Dralle, Li

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Michel

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 966
Location: Norway

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:19 am Post subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

On my Kitfox 3 from 1992, I have about 57 inches of 3/8 shock cord that is turned on six wraps. I buy it from Aircraft Spruce.

I once tried the hook fasteners but it doesn't work for a Kitfox; it comes loose much too quickly! I tie down the ends with lashing lace I have from my sailing days.'

The only problem I meet is that the color code of the different shock cords I bought are different and the last batch from Aircraft Spruce is bloody hard, stretching hardly anything over 120 to 140 percent.



Cheers,

Michel

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Jack in Austin

Joined: 27 Dec 2008
Posts: 4
Location: Austin, TX USA

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:47 am Post subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

I just replaced the bungees in my plane, by myself.

The outcome was in doubt there for a bit, but,



1.  I used a tie-down strap (the kind with a ratchet) to tension between the two wheels, so the gear wouldn't collapse on removal. A thick piece of carpet over the strap came in handy when working below.



2. Figure the length, number of wraps, and divide- then mark the bungee where it will cross the top bar to make the wraps work out.



3. Get a big pair of visegrips, and make certain that anyone that might be offended by profanity is out of earshot.



 From the top, stretch PAST the mark that should cross the top. 1/2" is good- the first may have none at all.  The third should have a bit more, etc.  It's a goal, that will serve you well at the end.  Now that you're past, clamp the bungee to the top bar using the vise grips, and feed the cable back around.  Note that it's best to already have the bungee threaded back though the bottom when you pull.  I wore a thin pair of roper's gloves that I happened to have, but you will need gloves! Repeat.  After a few turns, you'll have to go below, and using some form of tool, forcibly slide the loops back to the end of the lower bar to make room for another loop or two. I used the handle of a screwdriver as a fulcrum, and another for the lever. DO NOT CUT THE BUNGEE when you're prying!



It wasn't fun, and I did have to start over when it came time to hang the loop, since I didn't have that extra slack to hang it, but my gear now stands the way it should!

poasttown(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: Bungees, really need help guys!

I purchased a tool years ago from an auto parts store that I use to grab and hold the bungees.  I can't rember exactly what this tool was origionally made for.  It looks like a pair of beefed-up kitchen tongs with special rubber coated concave tips about the same diameter as the buggee. I purchased this tool a the local NAPA auto parts store. Someone on this list suggested this years ago.  If anyone in this group can remember what this tool was made for it would be more helpful when asking for it at the store.   If not, and someone is interested I can research this and report back to the group.  I used the tool and it made the bungee change a bit easier.

  

 Mike Chaney

 1996 Kitfox IV

--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Jack in Austin <aviation(at)comconn.com> wrote:



  	  Quote: 	
		  

From: Jack in Austin <aviation(at)comconn.com>

Subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 8:47 AM



 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack in Austin" <aviation(at)comconn.com (aviation(at)comconn.com)>



I just replaced the bungees in my plane, by myself.

The outcome was in doubt there for a bit, but,



1.  I used a tie-down strap (the kind with a ratchet) to tension between the two wheels, so the gear wouldn't collapse on removal. A thick piece of carpet over the strap came in handy when working below.



2. Figure the length, number of wraps, and divide- then mark the bungee where it will cross the top bar to make the wraps work out.



3. Get a big pair of visegrips, and make certain that anyone that might be offended by profanity is out of earshot.



From the top, stretch PAST the mark that should cross the top. 1/2" is good- the first may have none at all.  The third should have a bit more,  etc.  It's a goal, that will serve you well at the end.  Now that you're past, clamp the bungee to the top bar using the vise grips, and feed the cable back around.  Note that it's best to already have the bungee threaded back though the bottom when you pull.  I wore a thin pair of roper's gloves that I happened to have, but you will need gloves! Repeat.  After a few turns, you'll have to go below, and using some form of tool, forcibly slide the loops back to the end of the lower bar to make room for another loop or two. I used the handle of a screwdriver as a fulcrum, and another for the lever. DO NOT CUT THE BUNGEE when you're prying!



It wasn't fun, and I did have to start over when it came time to hang the loop, since I didn't have that extra slack to hang it, but my gear now stands the way it should!





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Tom Jones

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Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

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		  I purchased a tool years ago from an auto parts store that I use to grab and hold the bungees. I can't rember exactly what this tool was origionally made for. It looks like a pair of beefed-up kitchen tongs with special rubber coated concave tips about the same diameter as the buggee. 	




Did it look something like this?

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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: Bungees, really need help guys!

Sounds like a spark plug boot plier, for removing  stuck-on spark plug boots.  Just guessing.

  

 Bob Taylor

TigerCub N657RT

  



  From: Mike Chaney (poasttown(at)yahoo.com) 

 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:53 AM

 To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com) 

 Subject: Re: Re: Bungees, really need help  guys!

 



                   I purchased a tool years ago from an auto parts store that I use to        grab and hold the bungees.  I can't rember exactly what this tool was        origionally made for.  It looks like a pair of beefed-up kitchen        tongs with special rubber coated concave tips about the same diameter        as the buggee. I purchased this tool a the local NAPA auto parts        store. Someone on this list suggested this years ago.  If anyone in        this group can remember what this tool was made for it would be more        helpful when asking for it at the store.   If not, and someone        is interested I can research this and report back to the group.  I        used the tool and it made the bungee change a bit easier.

        

       Mike Chaney

       1996 Kitfox IV

--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Jack in Austin        <aviation(at)comconn.com> wrote:



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From:          Jack in Austin <aviation(at)comconn.com>

Subject: Re:          Bungees, really need help guys!

To:          kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 8:47  AM



         --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack in          Austin" <aviation(at)comconn.com (aviation(at)comconn.com)>



I          just replaced the bungees in my plane, by myself.

The outcome was in          doubt there for a bit, but,



1.  I used a tie-down strap (the          kind with a ratchet) to tension between the two wheels, so the gear          wouldn't collapse on removal. A thick piece of carpet over the strap          came in handy when working below.



2. Figure the length, number of          wraps, and divide- then mark the bungee where it will cross the top bar          to make the wraps work out.



3. Get a big pair of visegrips, and          make certain that anyone that might be offended by profanity is out of          earshot.



From the top, stretch PAST the mark that should cross          the top. 1/2" is good- the first may have none at all.  The third          should have a bit more, etc.  It's a goal, that will serve you well          at the end.  Now that you're past, clamp the bungee to the top bar          using the vise grips, and feed the cable back around.  Note that          it's best to already have the bungee threaded back though the bottom          when you pull.  I wore a thin pair of roper's gloves that I          happened to have, but you will need gloves! Repeat.  After a few          turns, you'll have to go below, and using some form of tool, forcibly          slide the loops back to the end of the lower bar to make room for          another loop or two. I used the handle of a screwdriver as a fulcrum,          and another for the lever. DO NOT CUT THE BUNGEE when you're          prying!



It wasn't fun, and I did have to start over when it came          time to hang the loop, since I didn't have that extra slack to hang it,          but my gear now stands the way it should!





Read this          topic online here:



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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject: Bungees, really need help guys!

I haven't replaced mine for awhile, so my knuckles have had time to heal. Can't remember how I did it last time but I'm sure it was different from the time before and equally unpleasant. If I had to do it again today I'd be mightly confused by the various written explanations that have been proffered this time around. Could someone who as developed an "easy, 10 minute per side, one-man" system possibly video the magical process and post on you-tube? If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth a million. We the bungee-maimed would be most appreciative as would our profanity scorched families and punted pets.

  

 Marco Menezes N99KX

 Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch

 Hersey, Michigan



--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Mike Chaney <poasttown(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



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From: Mike Chaney <poasttown(at)yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 10:53 AM



      I purchased a tool years ago from an auto parts store that I use to grab and hold the bungees.  I can't rember exactly what this tool was origionally made for.  It looks like a pair of beefed-up kitchen tongs with special rubber coated concave tips about the same diameter as the buggee. I purchased this tool a the local NAPA auto parts store. Someone on this list suggested this years ago.  If anyone in this group can remember what this tool was made for it would be more helpful when asking for it at the store.   If not, and someone is interested I can research this and report back to the group.  I used the tool and it made the bungee change a bit easier.

  

 Mike Chaney

 1996 Kitfox IV

--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Jack in Austin <aviation(at)comconn.com> wrote:



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From: Jack in Austin <aviation(at)comconn.com>

Subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 8:47 AM



 --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Jack in Austin" <aviation(at)comconn.com>



I just replaced the bungees in my plane, by myself.

The outcome was in doubt there for a bit, but,



1.  I used a tie-down strap (the kind with a ratchet) to tension between the two wheels, so the gear wouldn't collapse on removal. A thick piece of carpet over the strap came in handy when working below.



2. Figure the length, number of wraps, and divide- then mark the bungee where it will cross the top bar to make the wraps work out.



3. Get a big pair of visegrips, and make certain that anyone that might be offended by profanity is out of earshot.



From the top, stretch PAST the mark that should cross the top. 1/2" is good- the first may have none at all.  The third should have a bit more,  etc.  It's a goal, that will serve you well at the end.  Now that you're past, clamp the bungee to the top bar using the vise grips, and feed the cable back around.  Note that it's best to already have the bungee threaded back though the bottom when you pull.  I wore a thin pair of roper's gloves that I happened to have, but you will need gloves! Repeat.  After a few turns, you'll have to go below, and using some form of tool, forcibly slide the loops back to the end of the lower bar to make room for another loop or two. I used the handle of a screwdriver as a fulcrum, and another for the lever. DO NOT CUT THE BUNGEE when you're prying!



It wasn't fun, and I did have to start over when it came time to hang the loop, since I didn't have that extra slack to hang it, but my gear now stands the way it should!





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occom

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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject: Bungees, really need help guys!

Thanks for  that Marco, It's a good thing to laugh about as it's a bear of a job, at least  with the knowledge I have now. I got them in with help, but we never  achieved six wraps. I think now I might be able to next time, it appears to be  one of those tasks that gets easier each time. Hammer handles, padded pliers,  and the other tools suggested all helped, but didn't make six wraps possible, at  least for me. I stopped at five and was sad to give up that much progress toward  the sixth and watch that slack get sucked back. But the suspension is loads  harder than it was before, so five may do me fine. It is a 1050 machine not 1200  and I plan to fly alone almost always, nowhere near max weight. I'm going to go  with five at least for now and hope for the best.   

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         From: owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kitfox-list-server(at)matronics.com)]  On Behalf Of Marco Menezes

        Sent:  June-24-11 6:52 PM

        To:  kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

        Subject:  Re: Re: Bungees, really need help  guys!

       

       

                 I haven't replaced mine for awhile,  so my knuckles have had time to heal. Can't remember how I did it last time but  I'm sure it was different from the time before and equally unpleasant. If I had  to do it again today I'd be mightly confused by the various written explanations  that have been proffered this time around. Could someone who as developed an  "easy, 10 minute per side, one-man" system possibly video the magical process  and post on you-tube? If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth a  million. We the bungee-maimed would be most appreciative as would our profanity  scorched families and punted  pets.

        

         Marco Menezes N99KX

        Model 2 582-90  C-Box 3:1 w/clutch

        Hersey,  Michigan

       

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:35 am Post subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

Dave,



I know your frustration but looks good -- you might need a tie wrap to hold that bungee away from the flaperon control -looks like it close to rubbing.



5 wraps likely will not be enough - it will be too soft.   Just rock the wings on the ground hard up and down and watch the suspension moving. Bungees will loosed over time. Short time likely you willl notice.



I gonna be pulling off mine for floats install very soon--- Looks like I will have to do a video for you guys to show you how easy it really is. 



If you are a subscriber on my youtoube channel then you will get a notice when I put it up  http://www.youtube.com/user/kitfoxflyer?feature=mhee



7143 subscribes now   WOW !!

occom

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: Bungees, really need help guys!

A video would be good, I was think about it last night and replaying the

install in my mind. I think I know a way to get more out of it with less

hassle and tools. I'll wait to see if I feel it's too soft before changing

anything at this point. 



The cords are well clear of anything they could rub on, it's just the camera

lens. I have a couple of cheap digital cameras, can't find the one that

takes good pictures. 

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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:31 am Post subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

Dave I will out a long tie wrap around the bungees to keep  them clear of controls.



I just got another Kitfox in yesterday that need bungees, I hope to get at it this week.   It is a KF 2   -- I will make some bungee this week - clamp them with stiff wire and show how to install easy. 

Stay Tuned .

dave

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:09 am Post subject: VIDEO - Bungee 3 minute instal !! really need help guys!

Here you go as promised...............



Cannot be easier to put on Bungees 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_kEZnXDgYM



I just plain sick of hearing about all the whining about bungees



visegrips, clamps  bla bla blah !!!!



Simple Tube gear Bungee install .............

Tom Jones

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Location: Ellensburg, WA

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Bungees, really need help guys!

Dave that bungee video is the best kitfox maintenance tip ever posted! Thanks!

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Pat Reilly

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:13 am Post subject: Bungees, really need help guys!

Dave, Outstanding!!

 

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 Here you go as promised...............

 

 Cannot be easier to put on Bungees

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_kEZnXDgYM

 

 I just plain sick of hearing about all the whining about bungees

 

 visegrips, clamps  bla bla blah !!!!

 

 Simple Tube gear Bungee install .............

 

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