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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: stick grip

I'm trying to decide which stick grip to install ..... the choices are 

not insignificant.  I'd like to know what the flying RV-10s are using 

for their stick grip and their recommendations.

A few questions:



Which grip did you choose and why.



Did it meet your expectations?



Did you find that you needed more functions?  Which ones?



Would you list the buttons you have and their function?



Do you wish you'd installed another grip, and why?

If you want to reply directly, I'll post a summary in a week or two.

Linn

rene(at)felker.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:14 am Post subject: stick grip

See answers below



Rene' Felker

N423CF

801-721-6080



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dmaib(at)mac.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:26 am Post subject: stick grip

I have the Infinity grips. I chose them because I liked the feel and  

look, good reputation, and the number of possible functions. I have  

the coolie hat on top controlling elevator trim and aileron trim.  

Green button to the left flip-flops comm 1 frequencies, black button  

to the right is the Vertical Power "Acknowledge" button and checklist  

advance, red button halfway down on the right is autopilot disconnect/ 

CWS, the trigger switch is PTT for the comm radios, and I have a  

pinkie switch that is left-off-right for rudder trim. If I was doing  

it again, I would not put the rudder trim switch on the grip, but  

would have a starter button instead. Other than that, I am very happy  

with the grip and the functions.



David Maib

40559

Flying



On Jun 30, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Linn Walters wrote:



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 <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>



 I'm trying to decide which stick grip to install ..... the choices  

 are not insignificant.  I'd like to know what the flying RV-10s are  

 using for their stick grip and their recommendations.

 A few questions:



 Which grip did you choose and why.



 Did it meet your expectations?



 Did you find that you needed more functions?  Which ones?



 Would you list the buttons you have and their function?



 Do you wish you'd installed another grip, and why?

 If you want to reply directly, I'll post a summary in a week or two.

 Linn

daveleikam(at)wi.rr.com
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:59 am Post subject: stick grip

I really like my Tosten CS-8 grip very much.  Good price, made well.   I like having fewer buttons, and the grip is very comfortable.  Trigger is talk, small button under the trigger is CWS or AP disconnect, hat is trim, left button is com 1 freq swap and right button is ident.

David Leikam

RV10

Flying

On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:23 AM, David wrote:

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 I have the Infinity grips. I chose them because I liked the feel and look, good reputation, and the number of possible functions. I have the coolie hat on top controlling elevator trim and aileron trim. Green button to the left flip-flops comm 1 frequencies, black button to the right is the Vertical Power "Acknowledge" button and checklist advance, red button halfway down on the right is autopilot disconnect/CWS, the trigger switch is PTT for the comm radios, and I have a pinkie switch that is left-off-right for rudder trim. If I was doing it again, I would not put the rudder trim switch on the grip, but would have a starter button instead. Other than that, I am very happy with the grip and the functions.

 David Maib

 40559

 Flying

 On Jun 30, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Linn Walters wrote:

> 

> 

> I'm trying to decide which stick grip to install ..... the choices are not insignificant.  I'd like to know what the flying RV-10s are using for their stick grip and their recommendations.

> A few questions:

> 

> Which grip did you choose and why.

> 

> Did it meet your expectations?

> 

> Did you find that you needed more functions?  Which ones?

> 

> Would you list the buttons you have and their function?

> 

> Do you wish you'd installed another grip, and why?

> 

> 

> If you want to reply directly, I'll post a summary in a week or two.

> Linn

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

carl.froehlich(at)verizon
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: stick grip

I first did the starter button (pinky switch) on the Infinity grip on my 8A.

In addition to the need to add another relay (the switch does not have the

current rating to control the starter solenoid directly) I found it way too

easy bump with the switch with the engine running.  I disconnected it after

a few hours.



On the 10, the switches are:

Trim (coolie hat)

Flap 

AP engage/disengage

PTT

Comm flip/flop



I do have a locking toggle switch on the panel to select who has control of

trim and flaps (pilot or co-pilot).  I do this by controlling the common

ground wire.  My thought was to prevent a non-pilot in the seat from doing

something weird, and to have an installed spare switch if the pilot stick

controls fail. 



Carl 

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Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: stick grip

I have the Tosten on the left stick, and like the feel of it. I just use 3 functions:  top hat for trim, trigger for PTT, and right rear button for autopilot disconnect. The right stick has an inexpensive Allen (I think) grip with just PTT. I don't want passengers hitting the trim switch. I installed the Allen rocker trim switch in the right-center panel, easily reached by either pilot, as a second way of running trim from the left seat or the main way from the right. My Trio autopilot will also run the trim, automatically or manually.



I have the trim speeds set so the left stick runs full speed; the panel rocker runs a little slower; and the Trio auto-adjusts to run fast when airspeed is low, and runs trim slowly when airspeed is high.

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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB

n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: stick grip

I used the Teak wooden grips on my RV-4 and liked them so much that I am using them on my RV-10. I have the coolie hat for trim, a PTT and an autopilot disconnect.  I am very happy with them.

-Mike Kraus

40013, 19.8 hours



Sent from my iPhone



On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:57 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:



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 I have the Tosten on the left stick, and like the feel of it. I just use 3 functions:  top hat for trim, trigger for PTT, and right rear button for autopilot disconnect. The right stick has an inexpensive Allen (I think) grip with just PTT. I don't want passengers hitting the trim switch. I installed the Allen rocker trim switch in the right-center panel, easily reached by either pilot, as a second way of running trim from the left seat or the main way from the right. My Trio autopilot will also run the trim, automatically or manually.

 

 I have the trim speeds set so the left stick runs full speed; the panel rocker runs a little slower; and the Trio auto-adjusts to run fast when airspeed is low, and runs trim slowly when airspeed is high.

 

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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: stick grip

Vans or other source?



On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Michael Kraus

<n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> wrote:

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		   I used the Teak wooden grips on my RV-4 and liked them so much that I am using them on my RV-10. I have the coolie hat for trim, a PTT and an autopilot disconnect.  I am very happy with them.

 -Mike Kraus

 40013, 19.8 hours


	


 

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Kelly McMullen

Joined: 16 Apr 2008
Posts: 1188
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: stick grip

Disregard. Didn't see the image attached .



On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:

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		   Vans or other source?



 On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Michael Kraus

 <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> wrote:

> I used the Teak wooden grips on my RV-4 and liked them so much that I am using them on my RV-10. I have the coolie hat for trim, a PTT and an autopilot disconnect.  I am very happy with them.

> -Mike Kraus

> 40013, 19.8 hours



  

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A&P/IA, EAA Tech Counselor
KCHD

dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:46 pm Post subject: stick grip

I have the same setup as Mike.  I'm happy with it, but it took a few changes.



For one, I originally had the trim in the upper left corner, and the

AP disconnect in the lower right corner.  I'm describing the left

side.  The right side is a mirror image.  Each one kind of felt

natural under my thumb.  But I found that especially on take-off, if I

didn't have the trim quite right for the load, that it was pretty

difficult to push on the stick (which happens with your thumb) while

also reaching up with my thumb to trim the nose down.  Many times I

ended up pushing with one hand and trimming with the other.  Two

annuals ago I swapped the two buttons and now it's much easier to trim

and push at the same time.



The other change was to put a guard on the AP button.  It was pretty

easy to accidentally push it with a map, especially on the right side.

 It's just a simple dish that protects the button.



Dave Saylor

AirCrafters

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 95076

831-722-9141 Shop

831-750-0284 Cell



On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Michael Kraus

<n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I used the Teak wooden grips on my RV-4 and liked them so much that I am using them on my RV-10. I have the coolie hat for trim, a PTT and an autopilot disconnect. Â I am very happy with them.

 -Mike Kraus

 40013, 19.8 hours



 Sent from my iPhone



 On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:57 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:



> 

>

> I have the Tosten on the left stick, and like the feel of it. I just use 3 functions: Â top hat for trim, trigger for PTT, and right rear button for autopilot disconnect. The right stick has an inexpensive Allen (I think) grip with just PTT. I don't want passengers hitting the trim switch. I installed the Allen rocker trim switch in the right-center panel, easily reached by either pilot, as a second way of running trim from the left seat or the main way from the right. My Trio autopilot will also run the trim, automatically or manually.

>

> I have the trim speeds set so the left stick runs full speed; the panel rocker runs a little slower; and the Trio auto-adjusts to run fast when airspeed is low, and runs trim slowly when airspeed is high.

>

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> Bob Turner

> RV-10 QB

>

>

> Read this topic online here:

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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344639#344639

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dave.saylor.aircrafters(a
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:03 pm Post subject: stick grip

Oops, I didn't see the image either--my grips are from Vans.



Dave Saylor

AirCrafters

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA 95076

831-722-9141 Shop

831-750-0284 Cell



On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Dave Saylor

<dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I have the same setup as Mike. Â I'm happy with it, but it took a few changes.



 For one, I originally had the trim in the upper left corner, and the

 AP disconnect in the lower right corner. Â I'm describing the left

 side. Â The right side is a mirror image. Â Each one kind of felt

 natural under my thumb. Â But I found that especially on take-off, if I

 didn't have the trim quite right for the load, that it was pretty

 difficult to push on the stick (which happens with your thumb) while

 also reaching up with my thumb to trim the nose down. Â Many times I

 ended up pushing with one hand and trimming with the other. Â Two

 annuals ago I swapped the two buttons and now it's much easier to trim

 and push at the same time.



 The other change was to put a guard on the AP button. Â It was pretty

 easy to accidentally push it with a map, especially on the right side.

 Â It's just a simple dish that protects the button.



 Dave Saylor

 AirCrafters

 140 Aviation Way

 Watsonville, CA 95076

 831-722-9141Â Shop

 831-750-0284Â Cell



 On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Michael Kraus

 <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> wrote:

> I used the Teak wooden grips on my RV-4 and liked them so much that I am using them on my RV-10. I have the coolie hat for trim, a PTT and an autopilot disconnect. Â I am very happy with them.

> -Mike Kraus

> 40013, 19.8 hours

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

> On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:57 PM, "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> wrote:

>

>> 

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>> I have the Tosten on the left stick, and like the feel of it. I just use 3 functions: Â top hat for trim, trigger for PTT, and right rear button for autopilot disconnect. The right stick has an inexpensive Allen (I think) grip with just PTT. I don't want passengers hitting the trim switch. I installed the Allen rocker trim switch in the right-center panel, easily reached by either pilot, as a second way of running trim from the left seat or the main way from the right. My Trio autopilot will also run the trim, automatically or manually.

>>

>> I have the trim speeds set so the left stick runs full speed; the panel rocker runs a little slower; and the Trio auto-adjusts to run fast when airspeed is low, and runs trim slowly when airspeed is high.

>>

>> --------

>> Bob Turner

>> RV-10 QB

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>> Read this topic online here:

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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=344639#344639

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rv10flyer

Joined: 25 Aug 2009
Posts: 364

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: Re: stick grip

Fabricated my own out of African zebrawood. CWS/PTT on pilot side and PTT on copilot side.

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