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tomblejwas(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:53 pm Post subject: Viking Engine

I have ordered a Viking Engine, which is a Honda Fit conversion.  Anyone using this engine?  I've watched the installation video and I'm impressed with the completeness of the conversion.  Jan Eggenfellner has included some installation hardware, like a machined holder for the dual fuel pumps, which I find an improvement over what I've seen for UL installations.  I'd really like to hear of any first-hand experience with the engine.  I'll be glad to share my experiences with individuals interested in a dialogue after my December delivery.

  

 Tom Blejwas

 12 Via Entrada

 Sandia Park, NM 87047-9686

 tomblejwas(at)yahoo.com (tomblejwas(at)yahoo.com)

  



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mhubel

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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject: Viking Engine

Tom,

         If this is a 601XL you are planning to put it in, I was going     back and forth with Viking on the engine mount and resulting     W&B. It sounded to me like the default engine mount would     position the engine too far aft and result in a CG that was a bit     too far aft.  Other than that, I am seriously considering swapping     my Jabiru 3300 sometime in the next year.

     

     On 07/08/2011 5:50 PM, Thomas Blejwas wrote:     [quote]                       I have ordered a Viking Engine, which is a Honda Fit           conversion.  Anyone using this engine?  I've watched the           installation video and I'm impressed with the completeness of           the conversion.  Jan Eggenfellner has included some           installation hardware, like a machined holder for the dual           fuel pumps, which I find an improvement over what I've seen           for UL installations.  I'd really like to hear of any           first-hand experience with the engine.  I'll be glad to share           my experiences with individuals interested in a dialogue after           my December delivery.

          

         Tom Blejwas

         12 Via Entrada

         Sandia Park, NM 87047-9686

         tomblejwas(at)yahoo.com (tomblejwas(at)yahoo.com)

          

       

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Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA

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Rotec TBI 40-3 carb
Sensenich ground adj prop.
240 hr TAF
Pictures at photo.hubbles.com

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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: Viking Engine

Hi Mark,



I was surprised to hear you want to trade your Jabiru aircraft engine 

for an auto conversion.  Have you been having problems with the Jabiru?



Paul



On 7/8/2011 4:00 PM, Mark Hubelbank wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   Tom,

     If this is a 601XL you are planning to put it in, I was going back 

 and forth with Viking on the engine mount and resulting W&B. It 

 sounded to me like the default engine mount would position the engine 

 too far aft and result in a CG that was a bit too far aft.  Other than 

 that, I am seriously considering swapping my Jabiru 3300 sometime in 

 the next year.

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mhubel

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Posts: 141

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: Viking Engine

Paul,

     I have a long list. There are many Jabiru engines that are happly 

flying but there seems to be a certain element of hit and miss. The 

engines are quite intollarent of being overheated. That is not good for 

any engine but the Jabiru heads are especially sensitive. In the same 

area, the Jabiru supplied oil cooler may not be sufficient. If your 

engine is quite new, it may not be affected by the through bolt service 

bulletin. Other things like noisy ignition and wimpy alternators, one 

can work around. Some are happy with the Bing carbs. I found it to be 

unacceptable but that can be replaced as well.

     It is the head design and through bolt issue that is getting to me 

to look at a design that a real professional team engineered. My thought 

is that an engine that can take the beating of outboard motor service is 

probably well designed. The fisherman I see go to near full throttle for 

an hour or so to get to their spot. stop, (no letting it cool off) and 

then do the same thing on the way back. I must say my use of an outboard 

was probably worse, I used one for ski towing so it was effectively at 

full throttle all the time. About the nastiest thing one can do to an 

engine, yet they expect their engines to last a long time and apparently 

they generally do.

     That said, you should look to 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabiruengines/ and look at all the history 

to get an ideal of how to best care for the Jabiru engine. It can be 

used quite well if you are careful with it.

On 07/08/2011 8:19 PM, Paul Mulwitz wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Hi Mark,

 I was surprised to hear you want to trade your Jabiru aircraft engine 

 for an auto conversion.  Have you been having problems with the Jabiru?

 Paul

 On 7/8/2011 4:00 PM, Mark Hubelbank wrote:

> Tom,

>     If this is a 601XL you are planning to put it in, I was going 

> back and forth with Viking on the engine mount and resulting W&B. It 

> sounded to me like the default engine mount would position the engine 

> too far aft and result in a CG that was a bit too far aft.  Other 

> than that, I am seriously considering swapping my Jabiru 3300 

> sometime in the next year.

-- 

Mark Hubelbank

NorthEast Monitoring

2 Clock Tower Place

Suite 555

Maynard, MA, 01754 - USA

mhubel(at)nemon.com

978-443-3955

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_________________
Mark Hubelbank
N708HU
CH601XL
Jabiru 3300
Rotec TBI 40-3 carb
Sensenich ground adj prop.
240 hr TAF
Pictures at photo.hubbles.com

psm(at)att.net
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: Viking Engine

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the information.  I guess I have been living in a dream 

world.  Up until very recently I had heard about nothing but satisfied 

owners of Jabiru engines.

I guess it makes sense that you shouldn't overheat an engine.  The 

outboard motors are probably water cooled, so overheating is not a real 

issue.  Air cooled engines are a different matter.  The Jabiru 3300 

generates a lot of power in a very small space.  I guess it is not a big 

surprise that heat and overheating are real issues.

Thanks for the link to the Yahoo group.  I just signed up.

Good luck,

Paul

On 7/8/2011 7:04 PM, Mark Hubelbank wrote:

 	  Quote: 	

 Paul,

     I have a long list. There are many Jabiru engines that are happly 

 flying but there seems to be a certain element of hit and miss. The 

 engines are quite intollarent of being overheated. That is not good 

 for any engine but the Jabiru heads are especially sensitive. In the 

 same area, the Jabiru supplied oil cooler may not be sufficient. If 

 your engine is quite new, it may not be affected by the through bolt 

 service bulletin. Other things like noisy ignition and wimpy 

 alternators, one can work around. Some are happy with the Bing carbs. 

 I found it to be unacceptable but that can be replaced as well.

     It is the head design and through bolt issue that is getting to me 

 to look at a design that a real professional team engineered. My 

 thought is that an engine that can take the beating of outboard motor 

 service is probably well designed. The fisherman I see go to near full 

 throttle for an hour or so to get to their spot. stop, (no letting it 

 cool off) and then do the same thing on the way back. I must say my 

 use of an outboard was probably worse, I used one for ski towing so it 

 was effectively at full throttle all the time. About the nastiest 

 thing one can do to an engine, yet they expect their engines to last a 

 long time and apparently they generally do.

     That said, you should look to 

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabiruengines/ and look at all the 

 history to get an ideal of how to best care for the Jabiru engine. It 

 can be used quite well if you are careful with it.

 On 07/08/2011 8:19 PM, Paul Mulwitz wrote:

> 

>

> Hi Mark,

>

> I was surprised to hear you want to trade your Jabiru aircraft engine 

> for an auto conversion.  Have you been having problems with the Jabiru?

>

> Paul

>

> On 7/8/2011 4:00 PM, Mark Hubelbank wrote:

>> Tom,

>>     If this is a 601XL you are planning to put it in, I was going 

>> back and forth with Viking on the engine mount and resulting W&B. It 

>> sounded to me like the default engine mount would position the 

>> engine too far aft and result in a CG that was a bit too far aft.  

>> Other than that, I am seriously considering swapping my Jabiru 3300 

>> sometime in the next year.

>

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