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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:11 pm    Post subject: Stits repair Reply with quote

I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm blowing a tarp around. I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented and shrunk a patch in place. I applied the Poly Brush, and when the first coat was dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square. Tried again, and the bare spot was still there. Cleaned with MEK, and tried again. Cleaned with thinner, and tried again. Still have a bare spot that seems to repel Poly Brush.  Anybody have a reason and a solution? The rest of the patch is fine. The whole thing is about 4" square.

        Bill Sullivan
        Windsor Locks, Ct.
        FS 447
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:08 pm    Post subject: Stits repair Reply with quote

Bill, try letting the Poly Brush "air out' some, letting some of the MEK vapors
escape.  Maybe a slightly richer solution of the P. Brush will keep the MEK from
'washing' the repair.  Or, as an alternative, if you have any Poly Tak available,
try a quick coat of that and see if it works.

Mike Welch

Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:09:16 -0700
From: williamtsullivan(at)att.net
Subject: Stits repair
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  I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm blowing a tarp around.  I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented and shrunk a patch in place.  I applied the Poly Brush, and when the first coat was dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square.  Tried again, and the bare spot was still there.  Cleaned with MEK, and tried again.  Cleaned with thinner, and tried again.  Still have a bare spot that seems to repel Poly Brush.  Anybody have a reason and a solution?  The rest of the patch is fine.  The whole thing is about 4" square.
 
                                                       Bill Sullivan
                                                       Windsor Locks, Ct.
                                                       FS 447
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:25 pm    Post subject: Stits repair Reply with quote

Mike- I let it air out (gas off) for 3 days, and still had the problem. I will try a coat of Poly Tak. Thanks. I'll let you know. I just checked it- the spot is the size of a nickle.

      Bill

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Subject: RE: Stits repair
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Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 7:05 PM

Bill, try letting the Poly Brush "air out' some, letting some of the MEK vapors
escape. Maybe a slightly richer solution of the P. Brush will keep the MEK from
'washing' the repair. Or, as an alternative, if you have any Poly Tak available,
try a quick coat of that and see if it works.

Mike Welch

Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:09:16 -0700
From: williamtsullivan(at)att.net
Subject: Stits repair
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com

I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm blowing a tarp around. I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented and shrunk a patch in place. I applied the Poly Brush, and when the first coat was dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square. Tried again, and the bare spot was still there. Cleaned with MEK, and tried again. Cleaned with thinner, and tried again. Still have a bare spot that seems to repel Poly Brush. Anybody have a reason and a solution? The rest of the patch is fine. The whole thing is about 4" square.

        Bill Sullivan
        Windsor Locks, Ct.
        FS 447
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject: Stits repair Reply with quote

Bill, Why not just take the patch off and put on another? No sense beating your brains out. You've gotten some kind of contamination on the cloth that prevents it from wicking up the chemicals. Fiberglass will do the same thing if you get a drop of sweat on it (or any water, for that matter) and the resin will not penetrate.

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  I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm blowing a tarp around.  I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented and shrunk a patch in place.  I applied the Poly Brush, and when the first coat was dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square.  Tried again, and the bare spot was still there.  Cleaned with MEK, and tried again.  Cleaned with thinner, and tried again.  Still have a bare spot that seems to repel Poly Brush.  Anybody have a reason and a solution?  The rest of the patch is fine.  The whole thing is about 4" square.
 
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                                                       Windsor Locks, Ct.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:25 pm    Post subject: Stits repair Reply with quote

that is from oil contamination. Car painters call them fish eyes. It has worked itself through the weave and would be hard to rinse away.Auto paint shops sell (or did) a surfactant that you drip with a measuring eyedropper into the paint you are applying that will overcome most problems.
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[quote]Mike- I let it air out (gas off) for 3 days, and still had the problem. I will try a coat of Poly Tak. Thanks. I'll let you know. I just checked it- the spot is the size of a nickle.

Bill

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From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com (mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com)>
Subject: RE: Stits repair
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 7:05 PM

Bill, try letting the Poly Brush "air out' some, letting some of the MEK vapors
escape. Maybe a slightly richer solution of the P. Brush will keep the MEK from
'washing' the repair. Or, as an alternative, if you have any Poly Tak available,
try a quick coat of that and see if it works.

Mike Welch

Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:09:16 -0700
From: williamtsullivan(at)att.net (williamtsullivan(at)att.net)
Subject: Stits repair
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)

I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm blowing a tarp around. I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented and shrunk a patch in place. I applied the Poly Brush, and when the first coat was dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square. Tried again, and the bare spot was still there. Cleaned with MEK, and tried again. Cleaned with thinner, and tried again. Still have a bare spot that seems to repel Poly Brush. Anybody have a reason and a solution? The rest of the patch is fine. The whole thing is about 4" square.

Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Ct.
FS 447
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: Stits repair Reply with quote

Rick- I had thought of contamination, maybe some kind of clear oil?- but the Poly Tak under that area seems to be holding normally. Maybe, like you said, sweat. I am going to try the "fill it with Poly Tak" method first. It is a 4" x 4" patch over a chafed spot about 2" long by 1/2" high. No big deal to take it off if I have to. Thanks.

      Bill Sullivan

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Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 7:28 PM

Bill, Why not just take the patch off and put on another? No sense beating your brains out. You've gotten some kind of contamination on the cloth that prevents it from wicking up the chemicals. Fiberglass will do the same thing if you get a drop of sweat on it (or any water, for that matter) and the resin will not penetrate.

Rick Girard

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I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm blowing a tarp around. I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented and shrunk a patch in place. I applied the Poly Brush, and when the first coat was dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square. Tried again, and the bare spot was still there. Cleaned with MEK, and tried again. Cleaned with thinner, and tried again. Still have a bare spot that seems to repel Poly Brush. Anybody have a reason and a solution? The rest of the patch is fine. The whole thing is about 4" square.

        Bill Sullivan
        Windsor Locks, Ct.
        FS 447
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