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rjdaugh(at)rapidnet.com
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

You guys are right.  I had to dig out my records, but the cost was more like

$1400.



The kit was $797.  the skin - translucent fiberglass - was $329, a winch was

$97, and another $120 for wood.



My apologies to all and especially to the Ultimate door people.  It is a

great door.



Randy



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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

That's more like it . I'd like to bounce a few more questions off you if I may:



Would you say that the $800 for the kit is a good investment? Is there anything included in it that would be difficult to fabricate from scratch? 



What is the purpose of the pronounced dip at the end of the overhead track? Could the door be build with a flat track like they use for garage doors?



Does the door use a counterweight or some kind of spring to help lift it?



Thanks,

Luis R



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You guys are right. I had to dig out my records, but the cost was more like 

$1400. 



The kit was $797. the skin - translucent fiberglass - was $329, a winch was 

$97, and another $120 for wood. 



My apologies to all and especially to the Ultimate door people. It is a 

great door. 



Randy

DPREMGOOD(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:17 am Post subject: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

Randy,



Do you have an idea of how much the door weighs?



Doug Remoundos

rjdaugh(at)rapidnet.com
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

Luis,

I am happy to try to answer your questions.  See below.  Indented.



Randy



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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:32 am Post subject: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

Randy,



I like you hangar, your hangar door and especially your location.  Remind me 

where you are based.  I'm counting on you at the Cameron Park fly-in this 

year .



Lowell



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asq1(at)adelphia.net
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:55 am Post subject: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

FWIIW, I built an Ultimate Door about 15 yrs ago. I used their plans and 

fabricated my own metal.

  The top tracks are just standard garage door tracks with 10" cut off the 

curved end and welded back in near the middle of the track as per UD plans. 

A friend did the welding with a MIG. Didn't take long. I found an individual 

who installs doors in our area and bought all the door hardware used 

,track,pulleys brackets,etc.

  We have a local Mennonite friend who sells metal siding and such for a 

very reasonable price. I bought all translucent sheets to cover the door. 

They are very light.The door faces East. In the AM it heats up in a hurry 

and besides I don't have to have any lights on to work inside.

 I built mine such that I the outside slopes down just slightly When it is 

raised so the rain runs off when it is up so if I want more area to work in 

I open the door for an extra 6" of roof.

  They call for 1/8" cables to cross in each panel ,,as I remember. I live 

on a farm and use hi-tensile fence. I used this wire and nicropressed it 

onto the brackets and turnbuckles. It is at least as strong in this 

configuration and the wire is 2-3 cents per foot.

  I didn't use a winch. I found a (30" ? probably weighs 40-50# )flywheel 

off some old hand crank farm machine and made a small drum for a winch. (You 

need something for a bit of weight to smooth out the cranking)It takes 18 

turns to raise a 12" door( remember in reality you are only raising it 6', 

you are lifting from the center.)  My wife can crank it up with one hand. I 

think the door came out at about 400# and I used a 280#? counterweight. 

Counterweight works fine ,but I like the sound of the concrete weights 

better. I would do that next time.

  I have a fairly complicated pulley system above. Another time I would use 

a 2" pipe all the way across at the top of the door riding in lubricated oak 

blocks.

  Remember, This was 15 yrs ago,but I have less than $500 in the whole door 

and I use it a lot. It is an excellent unit. 

Larry Huntley

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rjdaugh(at)rapidnet.com
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

Doug,

I think my counter balance weight is 160 lbs and the door has 210 lbs with

the counter balance weight in place.  This makes the door 370 lbs.



I can't find any notes on this so I hope it is more accurate than my cost

data was.



Randy



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rjdaugh(at)rapidnet.com
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

Thanks Lowell.  I fly from a strip on my ranch.  We are about 4 - 5 miles

north of Mount Rushmore in the Black Hills of South Dakota.  With Crazy

Horse, Devils Tower and the Badlands all close by, this is a great place to

fly.



I am trying to break my tether, but so far have stayed in a 150 mile radius.

Hoping to visit Longmont, Colorado,   Sioux Center, Iowa,   and Bozeman,

Montana this summer.   I would sure like to make it to Cameron Park, but my

wife and I are still stretching our wings.....



Randy 



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jhartford(at)hartford-eng
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 4:00 am Post subject: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

Randy  Good to hear from someone in the Dakota's. I am building a Model

II In Dickinson ND. If you get up this way give me a call. 701-290-9051.

Jim Hartford



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rjdaugh(at)rapidnet.com
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

Jim,

Jared Schott is flying a fox from his ranch in north Central South Dakota

near Timber Lake.  I have been threatening to go visit him.  May make it

someday.



Randy



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jhartford(at)hartford-eng
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:41 am Post subject: Hanger door cost and brain-based inflation

Randy  When I finally get my Fox in the air I will try to make a trip to

SD. Work seems to slow progress. I will get a month or two at a time

then have to head back to work and it might be months before I get back

to the plane.



Jim



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