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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:06 am    Post subject: Phillips 25-60 Oil Reply with quote
Recently removed the banjo fitting from the air compressor on our M14P with 108 hrs SMOH. Discovered that valve and fitting were very congested with carbonized oil residue. Obviously, the oil had become overheated and broke down. M

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:49 am    Post subject: Phillips 25-60 Oil Reply with quote
Oops. Sent before I was done.

Engine oil temp. always in the normal range.

Has anyone experienced this event with Phillips 25-60?

Thanks, Blitz

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Recently removed the banjo fitting from the air compressor on our M14P with 108 hrs SMOH. Discovered that valve and fitting were very congested with carbonized oil residue. Obviously, the oil had become overheated and broke down. M

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject: Phillips 25-60 Oil Reply with quote
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Oops. Sent before I was done.

Engine oil temp. always in the normal range.

Has anyone experienced this event with Phillips 25-60?


No, or at least not any more than any other mineral-oil based lubricant. Synthetics can handle higher temperatures. 



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:59 am    Post subject: Phillips 25-60 Oil Reply with quote
Happens regardless of what type of oil you use. I wouldn't condemn the
oil unless you know positively that the output check valve on the
compressor was new or "overhauled" when you installed the engine? Just
for grins, clean it up making sure the little spring that presses the
little valve in place is also in good shape and the valve moves easily
with just the push of a pencil eraser; install new crush washers and
remove it again at the next 100 hours and see what it looks like.
Dennis

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On 7/26/2011 12:45 PM, Byron Fox wrote:
Quote:


Oops. Sent before I was done.

Engine oil temp. always in the normal range.

Has anyone experienced this event with Phillips 25-60?

Thanks, Blitz

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Byron Fox<byronmfox(at)gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Recently removed the banjo fitting from the air compressor on our M14P with 108 hrs SMOH. Discovered that valve and fitting were very congested with carbonized oil residue. Obviously, the oil had become overheated and broke down. M
>
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Phillips 25-60 Oil Reply with quote
Thanks, Dennis, I'll do as you suggest. When asked, Vladimir assured me that the compressor had been "overhauled" when the engine was. I did clean and check the valve and its spring, but reused the crush washers. Do you know a source for these?   ...Blitz

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:
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Happens regardless of what type of oil you use.  I wouldn't condemn the oil unless you know positively that the output check valve on the compressor was new or "overhauled" when you installed the engine?  Just for grins, clean it up making sure the little spring that presses the little valve in place is also in good shape and the valve moves easily with just the push of a pencil eraser; install new crush washers and remove it again at the next 100 hours and see what it looks like.
Dennis

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On 7/26/2011 12:45 PM, Byron Fox wrote:

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-->  Yak-List message posted by: Byron Fox<byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)>

Oops. Sent before I was done.

Engine oil temp. always in the normal range.

Has anyone experienced this event with Phillips 25-60?


Thanks, Blitz

Sent from my iPhone


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Recently removed the banjo fitting from the air compressor on our M14P with 108 hrs SMOH. Discovered that valve and fitting were very congested with carbonized oil residue. Obviously, the oil had become overheated and broke down. M

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Phillips 25-60 Oil Reply with quote
Blitz
We stock ky2 overhaul pts
  Call me.
Doug On Jul 26, 2011 12:23 PM, "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)> wrote:> Thanks, Dennis, I'll do as you suggest. When asked, Vladimir assured me that
> the compressor had been "overhauled" when the engine was. I did clean and
Quote:
check the valve and its spring, but reused the crush washers. Do you know a
source for these? ...Blitz

> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <

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dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)> wrote:

> --> Yak-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" <
>> dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net (dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net)>

Quote:
>
> Happens regardless of what type of oil you use. I wouldn't condemn the oil
> unless you know positively that the output check valve on the compressor was
>> new or "overhauled" when you installed the engine? Just for grins, clean it

Quote:
> up making sure the little spring that presses the little valve in place is
> also in good shape and the valve moves easily with just the push of a pencil
>> eraser; install new crush washers and remove it again at the next 100 hours

Quote:
> and see what it looks like.
> Dennis
>
> A. Dennis Savarese
> 334-285-6263
> 334-546-8182 (cell)
>> Skype: Yakguy1

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> On 7/26/2011 12:45 PM, Byron Fox wrote:
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>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Byron Fox<byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)>
>>>

Quote:
>> Oops. Sent before I was done.
>>
>> Engine oil temp. always in the normal range.
>>
>> Has anyone experienced this event with Phillips 25-60?
>>>

Quote:
>> Thanks, Blitz
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Byron Fox<byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
>>>

Quote:
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Byron Fox<byronmfox(at)gmail.com (byronmfox(at)gmail.com)>
>>>
>>> Recently removed the banjo fitting from the air compressor on our M14P
>>>> with 108 hrs SMOH. Discovered that valve and fitting were very congested

Quote:
>>> with carbonized oil residue. Obviously, the oil had become overheated and
>>> broke down. M
>>>>

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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Mill Valley, CA 94941
415-307-2405

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:53 am    Post subject: Phillips 25-60 Oil Reply with quote
Sorry Doug. I didn't know you stocked them or I would certainly have
said to call you.
Dennis

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On 7/26/2011 2:29 PM, doug sapp wrote:
Quote:

Blitz
We stock ky2 overhaul pts
Call me.
Doug

On Jul 26, 2011 12:23 PM, "Byron Fox" <byronmfox(at)gmail.com
<mailto:byronmfox(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thanks, Dennis, I'll do as you suggest. When asked, Vladimir assured
me that
> the compressor had been "overhauled" when the engine was. I did
clean and
> check the valve and its spring, but reused the crush washers. Do you
know a
> source for these? ...Blitz
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, A. Dennis Savarese <
> dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>
>>
>> dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>
>>
>> Happens regardless of what type of oil you use. I wouldn't condemn
the oil
>> unless you know positively that the output check valve on the
compressor was
>> new or "overhauled" when you installed the engine? Just for grins,
clean it
>> up making sure the little spring that presses the little valve in
place is
>> also in good shape and the valve moves easily with just the push of
a pencil
>> eraser; install new crush washers and remove it again at the next
100 hours
>> and see what it looks like.
>> Dennis
>>
>> A. Dennis Savarese
>> 334-285-6263
>> 334-546-8182 (cell)
>> Skype: Yakguy1
>> www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/2011 12:45 PM, Byron Fox wrote:
>>
>>>
<mailto:byronmfox(at)gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> Oops. Sent before I was done.
>>>
>>> Engine oil temp. always in the normal range.
>>>
>>> Has anyone experienced this event with Phillips 25-60?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Blitz
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Byron Fox<byronmfox(at)gmail.com
<mailto:byronmfox(at)gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
<mailto:byronmfox(at)gmail.com>>
>>>>
>>>> Recently removed the banjo fitting from the air compressor on our
M14P
>>>> with 108 hrs SMOH. Discovered that valve and fitting were very
congested
>>>> with carbonized oil residue. Obviously, the oil had become
overheated and
>>>> broke down. M
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ... Blitz
>
> Byron M. Fox
> 80 Milland Drive
> Mill Valley, CA 94941
> 415-307-2405
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:53 am    Post subject: Phillips 25-60 Oil Reply with quote
Jill at M14P has crush washer sets for the output check valves.
Dennis

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On 7/26/2011 2:17 PM, Byron Fox wrote:
Quote:
Thanks, Dennis, I'll do as you suggest. When asked, Vladimir assured
me that the compressor had been "overhauled" when the engine was. I
did clean and check the valve and its spring, but reused the crush
washers. Do you know a source for these? ...Blitz

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, A. Dennis Savarese
<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>> wrote:


<dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net <mailto:dsavarese0812(at)bellsouth.net>>

Happens regardless of what type of oil you use. I wouldn't
condemn the oil unless you know positively that the output check
valve on the compressor was new or "overhauled" when you installed
the engine? Just for grins, clean it up making sure the little
spring that presses the little valve in place is also in good
shape and the valve moves easily with just the push of a pencil
eraser; install new crush washers and remove it again at the next
100 hours and see what it looks like.
Dennis

A. Dennis Savarese
334-285-6263 <tel:334-285-6263>
334-546-8182 <tel:334-546-8182> (cell)
Skype: Yakguy1
www.yak-52.com <http://www.yak-52.com>

On 7/26/2011 12:45 PM, Byron Fox wrote:


<mailto:byronmfox(at)gmail.com>>

Oops. Sent before I was done.

Engine oil temp. always in the normal range.

Has anyone experienced this event with Phillips 25-60?

Thanks, Blitz

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Byron Fox<byronmfox(at)gmail.com
<mailto:byronmfox(at)gmail.com>> wrote:


Fox<byronmfox(at)gmail.com <mailto:byronmfox(at)gmail.com>>

Recently removed the banjo fitting from the air compressor
on our M14P with 108 hrs SMOH. Discovered that valve and
fitting were very congested with carbonized oil residue.
Obviously, the oil had become overheated and broke down. M

Sent from my iPhone


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:25 pm    Post subject: Phillips 25-60 Oil Reply with quote
Blitz, I clean the check valve approx. every 25 hours. And have reused the
washers many time with out
Trouble. But it would not hurt to replace them. Also use anti-seize compound
on the threads that screw
Into the barrel.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
777 Quartz Ave
PMB 7004
Sandy Valley NV
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Cell 702-595-2680


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Good thought, Tom. Thanks.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Tom Elliott <N13472(at)aol.com (N13472(at)aol.com)> wrote:
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Blitz, I clean the check valve approx. every 25 hours. And have reused the
washers many time with out
Trouble. But it would not hurt to replace them. Also use anti-seize compound
on the threads that screw
Into the barrel.


Tom Elliott
CJ-6A NX63727
777 Quartz Ave
PMB 7004
Sandy Valley NV
89019
Cell [url=tel:702-595-2680]702-595-2680[/url]


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