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Dennis Thate

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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:48 am Post subject: New Owner, Enlighten me please

My Kolb Firestar II / Rotax 503 Experimental with only 80 hours on the airframe & engine, now needs it's first annual inspection in August . I'm now the second owner, I didn't build it so I need an A&P to do the inspection.



What does this inspection consist of ? What forms do I need to provide the A&P with ? What forms does he need to sign. What is a typical cost of this condition inspection. What does the A&P inspect?



Any accurate info would for a legal inspection would be appreciated.



   Thanks

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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:09 am Post subject: New Owner, Enlighten me please

The same procedure as an annual but called a "condition inspection"

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On 2, Aug 2011, at 8:48 AM, Dennis Thate wrote:



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 My Kolb Firestar II / Rotax 503 Experimental with only 80 hours on the airframe & engine, now needs it's first annual inspection in August . I'm now the second owner, I didn't build it so I need an A&P to do the inspection.

 

 What does this inspection consist of ? What forms do I need to provide the A&P with ? What forms does he need to sign. What is a typical cost of this condition inspection. What does the A&P inspect?

 

 Any accurate info would for a legal inspection would be appreciated.

 

 [Question]  Thanks

 

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gotime242

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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:16 am Post subject: Re: New Owner, Enlighten me please

The cost really depends on who you get to do it. Most AP's will never touch and aircraft such as a kolb to do a condition inspections...or anything else for that matter. So you will have to find one that is comfortable with these experimental airplanes. What most people end up doing is having a freind who is an AP do it for a couple hundred bucks or less. If you took it to a shop that you dont know at all, and they agree to do it...i cant say what it might cost, could be quite a bit.



As far as forms go, once complete he will need to add an Annual Condition Inspection log entry to your airframe and engine logbooks, and he will check your a/c registration and airworthiness.  Thats really about it aside from whatever he has you fill out. 



The AP will inspect the condition of the entire aircraft. 



I attached a non-official inspection checklist that someone else on this forum had for a Kolbra and changed it a little bit, to give you an idea of what to look for. 



Hope this helps.



-Dylan

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Dennis Thate

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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: New Owner, Enlighten me please

Thanks so much !

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Dennis Thate

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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:18 am Post subject: Re: New Owner, Enlighten me please

 	  Dennis Thate wrote: 	
		  Thanks so much ! 	


The A&P a total stranger to me , was very impressed by my complete paper work history trail and documentation and the excellent condition of my Firestar II and my experience level and agreed to inspect and sign me off.



Thanks Again All !

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Dennis Thate

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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: New Owner, Enlighten me please

I did receive this e-mail and am wondering if this is the consensus here ?



" "I would like to recommend that you find a Rotax Expert to do a tear down, inspection, decarb and reseal.  The recommended useful life of the engine seals are 6 yrs.. you can lose an engine easily to a blown seal besides,,

useful life of the engine seals are 6 yrs.. ???

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