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Tim Olson



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:23 pm    Post subject: Aviation Humor - Garmin Style Reply with quote

It's just too much to take....and one of the biggest jokes
of the industry.

I just got a promo email of the "new low garmin prices"...
"Save $800 on the garmin 696".

You can buy it all right now for $2199.

With the way tablets and 3rd party software are priced
these days, this is just plain silly.
Ok, ok, want to hear another joke?

After years of me replying back to Avemco's mailings
that their rates are too high, and they have no clue
when it comes to pricing experimental aircraft, I got
yet another mailing today. When will they learn...
My dad called them during OSH to find out what an RV-12
would cost to insure. $3500!!!

I'm sorry, I'm sorry....these things just have me rolling
on the floor.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:50 pm    Post subject: Aviation Humor - Garmin Style Reply with quote

On 8/16/2011 6:20 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
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After years of me replying back to Avemco's mailings
that their rates are too high, and they have no clue
when it comes to pricing experimental aircraft,

They don't even know how to price certified aircraft. They quoted
me around $1800 to cover a 1975 Grumman AA1B for a $19,000 coverage
value. I bought a policy elsewhere with identical coverage for $588. I
took the time to write back to the Avemco agent telling him why I bought
the policy elsewhere (namely, price), and the response I got was a weak
attempt to justify the higher cost, describing quality of service, etc.
I explained that $1200 buys a lot of avgas which translates to quality
flight time...

Does anyone actually do business with Avemco?

-Dj

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:29 pm    Post subject: Aviation Humor - Garmin Style Reply with quote

Same experience here, I used them early on as no one wanted to insure a low time pilot. I thought they were doing me a favor until I got a little time and some other quotes. They were almost 35% higher than my current provider. Maybe all of the ten owners ought to get together with one provider to see if we can get a better rate. I am with Falcon [broker] on mine and I think I am paying around $2500



From: Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net>
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Aviation Humor - Garmin Style

--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net (deej(at)deej.net)>

On 8/16/2011 6:20 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
Quote:

After years of me replying back to Avemco's mailings
that their rates are too high, and they have no clue
when it comes to pricing experimental aircraft,

They don't even know how to price certified aircraft. They quoted me around $1800 to cover a 1975 Grumman AA1B for a $19,000 coverage value. I bought a policy elsewhere with identical coverage for $588. I took the time to write back to the Avemco agent telling him why I bought the policy elsewhere (namely, price), and the response I got was a weak attempt to justify the higher cost, describing quality of service, etc. I explained that $1200 buys a lot of avgas which translates to quality flight time...

Does anyone actually do business with Avemco?

-Dj

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:44 pm    Post subject: Aviation Humor - Garmin Style Reply with quote

what are you guys using as a hull value?




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Location: Sun Lakes AZ

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Aviation Humor - Garmin Style Reply with quote

They gave me a good rate in Alaska, and when I moved to Aridzona, and
the first 6 months changing to cover the Mooney I bought with maybe 30
hours of retract time. Their price on renewal jumped several hundred
dollars, I found a better rate, and they have never ever come close to
my current rate, even with their lesser coverage, as they in the past
would not write a million smooth policy.
On 8/16/2011 4:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
Quote:
Same experience here, I used them early on as no one wanted to insure
a low time pilot. I thought they were doing me a favor until I got a
little time and some other quotes. They were almost 35% higher than my
current provider. Maybe all of the ten owners ought to get together
with one provider to see if we can get a better rate. I am with Falcon
[broker] on mine and I think I am paying around $2500

*From:* Dj Merrill <deej(at)deej.net>
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2011 3:49 PM
*Subject:* Re: Aviation Humor - Garmin Style


<mailto:deej(at)deej.net>>

On 8/16/2011 6:20 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> After years of me replying back to Avemco's mailings
> that their rates are too high, and they have no clue
> when it comes to pricing experimental aircraft,

They don't even know how to price certified aircraft. They quoted
me around $1800 to cover a 1975 Grumman AA1B for a $19,000 coverage
value. I bought a policy elsewhere with identical coverage for $588.
I took the time to write back to the Avemco agent telling him why I
bought the policy elsewhere (namely, price), and the response I got
was a weak attempt to justify the higher cost, describing quality of
service, etc. I explained that $1200 buys a lot of avgas which
translates to quality flight time...

Does anyone actually do business with Avemco?

-Dj

-- Dj Merrill - N1JOV
Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/
Glastar Flyer N866RH - http://www.matronics.com/Na -
MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -bsp;
w.matronics.com/contribution"
target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/cont================

<http://deej.net/glastar/>
<http://deej.net/glastar/>
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:04 pm    Post subject: Aviation Humor - Garmin Style Reply with quote

$ 150,000.00 for mine, And I know its under valued, I just don't plan on using it. I have around that just in parts and pieces.



From: pilotdds <pilotdds(at)aol.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Aviation Humor - Garmin Style

what are you guys using as a hull value?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Aviation Humor - Garmin Style Reply with quote

I’m having this debate with my insurance agent at the moment too. If I insure to cover market value, which is about $50k more than my direct expense. If I insure for my direct expense, it’s about $1k/yr less. What’s is at risk then is my labor.

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what are you guys using as a hull value?

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