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pnicholson

Joined: 04 Jun 2011
Posts: 46

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject: PLAAF Insignia

Apologies for the repeat post (lost email).

      Does anyone have good quality GIF/JPG files of the chinese

airforce insignia they could forward off-list?

If anyone is interested, Transport Canada states that the decals are

"24" in height by 59" in length to be displayed on sides and top of

the right wing and bottom of the left wing with the same dimension."

I guess they did their homework....



Thanks,



Phil Nicholson

C-FEPN

wlannon(at)persona.ca
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: PLAAF Insignia

Phil;



Interesting.  TC certainly does specify minimum dimensions and other details 

for registration marks.



They assuredly do not specify PLAAF, or any other military or countries 

markings, dimensions, or any  other information.



Where are you located.  I have a "pounce" pattern for the insignia if you 

can't find anything else.  In Oliver, BC.



Walt

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Sonic1

Joined: 10 Feb 2009
Posts: 21
Location: Vancouver, BC

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: PLAAF Insignia

Maybe this can be scaled up?...



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Roundel_of_the_Peoples_Liberation_Army_Air_Force.svg/2000px-Roundel_of_the_Peoples_Liberation_Army_Air_Force.svg.png

Jeff.

Harv

Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Posts: 172

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: PLAAF Insignia

Guys



This is about the best graphic i've seen of the PLAA insignia. I think you could possibly scale it to suit the size requirement.



Rgs

Harv

PLA INSIGNIA.pdf

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pnicholson

Joined: 04 Jun 2011
Posts: 46

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:32 am Post subject: PLAAF Insignia

Hi Walter

TC “did to” specify the type and dimensions J

The details came back in a letter from Ottawa authorising 4”call

letters underneath the horizontal stabilizer.  It also “gave me

permission” to retain the dark green camouflage (their words) and the

country’s insignia.  I was then informed where the insignia was to be

located and at what size.  This included the number on the cowling and

registration number on the tail.  I was instructed to carry this

authorization letter with me in the aircraft.

I have no idea whether this is a new TC initiative or the product of

an over-zealous clerk.

Regards,



Phil Nicholson

(Kincardine, ON)



Phil;



Interesting.  TC certainly does specify minimum dimensions and other details

for registration marks.



They assuredly do not specify PLAAF, or any other military or countries

markings, dimensions, or any  other information.



Where are you located.  I have a "pounce" pattern for the insignia if you

can't find anything else.  In Oliver, BC.



Walt

cjpilot710(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:37 am Post subject: PLAAF Insignia

If you look close at the graphic of insignia, you'll see the space between  the bar and the star is wider on the left side than the right.  The drawing  needs to be balanced.  The left side is more accurate.  AAMOF the  space between the star and bar could be a tad wider.  The distance should  be about 3 x the width of the white band around the star.

  

 I found this out on a trip to China 1999 when I showed off my CJ-6's paint  job in a photo to the museum folks in Beijing.  They thought it was very  nice but pointed out that the bars were to close to the star.  It was a  long time before I could bring myself to tell all the DVT guys (whom I  copied it from) that it was slightly wrong.

  

 Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

  

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pnicholson

Joined: 04 Jun 2011
Posts: 46

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:38 am Post subject: Re: PLAAF Insignia

As a follow on,

I am beginning to wonder if Transport Canada is giving me poor information.

Could someone please confirm their 'official' PLAAF insignia is indeed 24"x59"?

Is this the same dimension on fuselage and wings?

Thanks for the help so far.

Phil

wlannon(at)persona.ca
Guest

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: PLAAF Insignia

Hi Phil;



My pattern was taken from my CJ prior to paint stripping.

I will check the dimensions and advise.  Appeared to be the same in all 

locations and too damn big!



Walt

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Harv

Joined: 01 Jul 2010
Posts: 172

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:59 am Post subject: Re: PLAAF Insignia

Guy's



I'd be very interested in an updated graphic if you manage to run one off.



Are you saying TC need to approve the markings and are giving a hard time about it?



I have a feeling we might have some 'issues' in the UK to get the markings approved.



Rgs

Harv

Pete Fowler

Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Posts: 76
Location: California

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:22 am Post subject: Re: PLAAF Insignia

I posted a pdf Illustrator file a while back that is clean and correct. I'm posting from my phone so it's hard to find the link but it's on the list. The wikipedia one is crap.

Mike Bell

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 51

Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: PLAAF Insignia

My insignia are 24" by 58.5" upper wings and fuselage. The wings are "as received" from China. The fuselage insignias were painted after importation but appear to have been placed over the originals so I think those dimensions are correct.

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Pete Fowler

Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Posts: 76
Location: California

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:24 am Post subject: Re: PLAAF Insignia

Here's the cleanly drawn insignia I did as a PDF.

CHINESE insignia.pdf

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cpayne(at)joimail.com
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:40 am Post subject: PLAAF Insignia

I did a lot of measuring and made up files for PLAAF decals some years ago. (lost files in computer crash). What I discovered was a lot of inconsistency in actual dimensions between "original" airplanes from China. Obvious to me that these insignia and paint are field applied, much like our military practices. As example I have a 80's era book of USAF colors and schemes, not real precise except for color numbers which I'll bet vary by batch.



Craig Payne

pnicholson

Joined: 04 Jun 2011
Posts: 46

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:42 am Post subject: Re: PLAAF Insignia

Yes, 24" x 58/59"

I have a vectored graphic file my printer made up to get them printed  full size.  It's about 12 megs so can't post it but will mail it to anyone who is looking to print their own.

I just picked up my plane last week and the graphics (semi-painted over) look like they were spray-can applied standing as far away as they could

k7wx

Joined: 24 May 2010
Posts: 117

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:27 pm Post subject: PLAAF Insignia

Pete,



Thanks for sharing this. 



For those looking to use this insignia for their CJ, a place like FASTSIGNS does a great job creating what you need. Form their web site you can upload the image, tell them the dimensions and arrange for a quote by a local shop. The quality is excellent. Pretty much if you can think of it, they can do it... things like N numbers, nose art, those large cowling numbers, Chinese lettering, etc. 



     http://www.fastsigns.com/



Great resource for the warbird community. 



Warren Hill

N464TW



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