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kevino
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 Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:22 am Post subject: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
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Am about to order the navworx ads600b interfacing to my afs4500. Matt any surprises on your install? Question has come up on the my transponder sending a target to the navworx. I have an older KT76 analog transponder. Is there going to be an issue with having a target out there that I cannot eliminate. I have a call into Bill Moffit. Anybody else have this issue?
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rleffler
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:11 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
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I suspect that may be an issue. Everyone I know that has an ADS600-B also has a Garmin transponder, which can suppress yourself via a dedicated serial connection. Without this circuit, I suspect you'll always have a ghost target chasing you.
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On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:22 AM, "kevino" <kevino(at)worldwarehouse.com> wrote:
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Am about to order the navworx ads600b interfacing to my afs4500. Matt any surprises on your install? Question has come up on the my transponder sending a target to the navworx. I have an older KT76 analog transponder. Is there going to be an issue with having a target out there that I cannot eliminate. I have a call into Bill Moffit. Anybody else have this issue?
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:32 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
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There's a config option to get rid of ghosts and no show targets
that are in your position within x distance. It probably won't
be an issue for you. I don't think there is any supression
via the serial connection...it's based on the ICAO code
I believe. But that's all mode-s related. The ghost
containment is a separate thing.
This is just an example, not actual config values, but here
is an example for you. I'm sure that by tweaking this
a little, Bill can help you get rid of the issue if you have it.
Ghost Containment Altitude feet: 1000
Ghost Containment Distance nautical miles: 1.00
Ghost Containment Track Degrees: 60
Ghost Containment Ground Speed knots: 30
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 8/25/2011 10:08 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
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I suspect that may be an issue. Everyone I know that has an
ADS600-B also has a Garmin transponder, which can suppress yourself
via a dedicated serial connection. Without this circuit, I suspect
you'll always have a ghost target chasing you.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:22 AM, "kevino"<kevino(at)worldwarehouse.com>
wrote:
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> "kevino"<kevino(at)worldwarehouse.com>
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> Am about to order the navworx ads600b interfacing to my afs4500.
> Matt any surprises on your install? Question has come up on the my
> transponder sending a target to the navworx. I have an older KT76
> analog transponder. Is there going to be an issue with having a
> target out there that I cannot eliminate. I have a call into Bill
> Moffit. Anybody else have this issue?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350544#350544
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rleffler
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:05 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
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Pin 33 on the ads600-b connects to a serial port on a 330/327. For garmin transponders, this will eliminate yourself as a ghost.
Vic discovered this undocumented feature working with Bill.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:
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There's a config option to get rid of ghosts and no show targets
that are in your position within x distance. It probably won't
be an issue for you. I don't think there is any supression
via the serial connection...it's based on the ICAO code
I believe. But that's all mode-s related. The ghost
containment is a separate thing.
This is just an example, not actual config values, but here
is an example for you. I'm sure that by tweaking this
a little, Bill can help you get rid of the issue if you have it.
Ghost Containment Altitude feet: 1000
Ghost Containment Distance nautical miles: 1.00
Ghost Containment Track Degrees: 60
Ghost Containment Ground Speed knots: 30
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 8/25/2011 10:08 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
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> I suspect that may be an issue. Everyone I know that has an
> ADS600-B also has a Garmin transponder, which can suppress yourself
> via a dedicated serial connection. Without this circuit, I suspect
> you'll always have a ghost target chasing you.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:22 AM, "kevino"<kevino(at)worldwarehouse.com>
> wrote:
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>> "kevino"<kevino(at)worldwarehouse.com>
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>> Am about to order the navworx ads600b interfacing to my afs4500.
>> Matt any surprises on your install? Question has come up on the my
>> transponder sending a target to the navworx. I have an older KT76
>> analog transponder. Is there going to be an issue with having a
>> target out there that I cannot eliminate. I have a call into Bill
>> Moffit. Anybody else have this issue?
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350544#350544
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:25 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
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That's just the serial input that listens to the GTX330/327.
I don't think this has anything to do with the supression of
the target. This is the wire that the info into for
remote transponder tuning and such. It would work with
Garmin transponders. The ghosting is a separate thing.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 8/25/2011 11:02 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
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Pin 33 on the ads600-b connects to a serial port on a 330/327. For garmin transponders, this will eliminate yourself as a ghost.
Vic discovered this undocumented feature working with Bill.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Tim Olson<Tim(at)myrv10.com> wrote:
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> There's a config option to get rid of ghosts and no show targets
> that are in your position within x distance. It probably won't
> be an issue for you. I don't think there is any supression
> via the serial connection...it's based on the ICAO code
> I believe. But that's all mode-s related. The ghost
> containment is a separate thing.
>
> This is just an example, not actual config values, but here
> is an example for you. I'm sure that by tweaking this
> a little, Bill can help you get rid of the issue if you have it.
>
> Ghost Containment Altitude feet: 1000
> Ghost Containment Distance nautical miles: 1.00
> Ghost Containment Track Degrees: 60
> Ghost Containment Ground Speed knots: 30
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
> On 8/25/2011 10:08 AM, Bob Leffler wrote:
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>> I suspect that may be an issue. Everyone I know that has an
>> ADS600-B also has a Garmin transponder, which can suppress yourself
>> via a dedicated serial connection. Without this circuit, I suspect
>> you'll always have a ghost target chasing you.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:22 AM, "kevino"<kevino(at)worldwarehouse.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> "kevino"<kevino(at)worldwarehouse.com>
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>>> Am about to order the navworx ads600b interfacing to my afs4500.
>>> Matt any surprises on your install? Question has come up on the my
>>> transponder sending a target to the navworx. I have an older KT76
>>> analog transponder. Is there going to be an issue with having a
>>> target out there that I cannot eliminate. I have a call into Bill
>>> Moffit. Anybody else have this issue?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350544#350544
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Matt Dralle
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:49 am Post subject: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
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At 07:22 AM 8/25/2011 Thursday, you wrote:
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Am about to order the navworx ads600b interfacing to my afs4500. Matt any surprises on your install? Question has come up on the my transponder sending a target to the navworx. I have an older KT76 analog transponder. Is there going to be an issue with having a target out there that I cannot eliminate. I have a call into Bill Moffit. Anybody else have this issue?
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Hi Kevin,
Well, I've got it mounted in the new RV-8, but I haven't started wiring yet...
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nukeflyboy
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
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For what it is worth I had an interesting conversation with the Garmin rep at OSH. I am getting the G3X system and I mentioned that I was looking at the NavWorx ADS-B and he advised me not to. We already know that Garmin will not interface with the NavWorx. He said just wait a couple months to see what Garmin is releasing which will "blow the socks off the competition". If you don't mind feeding the 600 pound gorilla and you have a Garmin EFIS, then you may want to wait.
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Matt Dralle
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
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At 04:23 PM 8/26/2011 Friday, you wrote:
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Garmin is releasing which will "blow the socks off the competition".
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I think what the rep meant was the *price* will blow your socks off...
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Kelly McMullen
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| Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
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Not to mention nuking your overall project budget. ;-(
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:
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At 04:23 PM 8/26/2011 Friday, you wrote:
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>Garmin is releasing which will "blow the socks off the competition".
I think what the rep meant was the *price* will blow your socks off...
<smirk>
Matt
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http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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