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graeme bird
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:47 am Post subject: Garmin pilot III required |
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Has anyone an old European Pilot III kicking around or know where I can get mine repaired? I think they go for about 90-100GBP.
Dont worry its not on a Europa!
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Ivor Phillips
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:03 am Post subject: Garmin pilot III required |
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Why not on a Europa ?
My original Pilot lll is still doing Stirling work after 15 years on mine,
far better than a ADF/DME for a fraction of the cost with a three hour battery
backup,
In answer to your question i think there was one for sale on the LAA website
a while back, not sure if its still available
regards
Ivor
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On 12 September 2011 20:47, graeme bird <graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk (graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk)> wrote:
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Has anyone an old European Pilot III kicking around or know where I can get mine repaired? I think they go for about 90-100GBP.
Dont worry its not on a Europa!
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Graeme Bird
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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:21 am Post subject: Garmin pilot III required |
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Hi Ivor,
I still have a Pilot III: should I make it to be as a back-up GPS?
It has not been fired up since 2007.
Not so much mosquitos here any more – it is raining – you would be happy...
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
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Updated flight hours /landings: 252,2 /452
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to (toivio(at)fly.to)
www.rwm.fi
From: PHILLIPS I (ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com)
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:00 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Garmin pilot III required
Why not on a Europa ?
My original Pilot lll is still doing Stirling work after 15 years on mine,
far better than a ADF/DME for a fraction of the cost with a three hour battery
backup,
In answer to your question i think there was one for sale on the LAA website
a while back, not sure if its still available
regards
Ivor
G-IVER
On 12 September 2011 20:47, graeme bird <graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk (graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk)> wrote:
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Has anyone an old European Pilot III kicking around or know where I can get mine repaired? I think they go for about 90-100GBP.
Dont worry its not on a Europa!
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
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Build nearing completion
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Richard Lamprey
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: Garmin pilot III required |
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The Pilot III was a great GPS, but had its limitations. The most serious being the reliance on its internal lithium battery to retain waypoints, routes etc. When this tiny battery ran down (Garmin said it should last about 3-5 years), the GPS lost everything. So if you haednt backed it up to PC on Mapsource or PCX5, you were in trouble. The battery is readily available in shops (it is standard penny type battery, I forget the code) but changing this battery is very difficult, as it is soldered into the board by tiny wires. You have to open the GPS right up, and have a soldering iron handy. With mine, Garmin reommended I send it back to an authorized agent in UK for replacement, but I live in Africa so this is not possible in our postal service run by thieves. So I did a replacement myself with a soldering iron, it did OK for a couple of years, then on the next replacement the wires came out of the board, and it really was time to bin-it. The new Garmins dont need the internal battery any more. I would not get a Pilot III again, when you have the 96 available or 196, or 296 etc.
Richard, Kenya, Europa 5Y-LRY
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Ivor Phillips
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:29 am Post subject: Garmin pilot III required |
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That's Interesting Richard but my pilot lll is over 15 years old and i have never changed the internal battery,
I have always made sure the double AA battery's are fresh and run from the aircraft power for all my flying,
it still holds routes in its memory and works very well, for the little money i would get for it i will continue
to keep it as a backup,
Ivor
G-IVER
On 14 September 2011 08:36, Richard Lamprey <lamprey.richard(at)gmail.com (lamprey.richard(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
[quote]--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Lamprey" <lamprey.richard(at)gmail.com (lamprey.richard(at)gmail.com)>
The Pilot III was a great GPS, but had its limitations. The most serious being the reliance on its internal lithium battery to retain waypoints, routes etc. When this tiny battery ran down (Garmin said it should last about 3-5 years), the GPS lost everything. So if you haednt backed it up to PC on Mapsource or PCX5, you were in trouble. The battery is readily available in shops (it is standard penny type battery, I forget the code) but changing this battery is very difficult, as it is soldered into the board by tiny wires. You have to open the GPS right up, and have a soldering iron handy. With mine, Garmin reommended I send it back to an authorized agent in UK for replacement, but I live in Africa so this is not possible in our postal service run by thieves. So I did a replacement myself with a soldering iron, it did OK for a couple of years, then on the next replacement the wires came out of the board, and it really was time to bin-it. The new Garmins dont need the!
internal battery any more. I would not get a Pilot III again, when you have the 96 available or 196, or 296 etc.
Richard, Kenya, Europa 5Y-LRY
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Ivor Phillips
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:52 am Post subject: Garmin pilot III required |
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Hi Raimo
pleased to hear your Mosquito population is on the decline in Finland, They must have moved to Texel
last weekend, i still have the bumps to prove it, I still keep my old garmin and use it as a DME for final destination
and heading, As long as it still works it worth keeping in the aircraft, mine is fitted very close to the portside door upright
never in my way but easy to use, IMHO its a keeper,
best wishes
to you and your Family
Ivor
G-IVER
On 13 September 2011 18:19, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi (raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi)> wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Ivor,
I still have a Pilot III: should I make it to be as a back-up GPS?
It has not been fired up since 2007.
Not so much mosquitos here any more – it is raining – you would be happy...
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
[img]cid:F64F660400BA40A0BECE51F7E4976619(at)Asus[/img]
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 252,2 /452
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio(at)fly.to (toivio(at)fly.to)
www.rwm.fi
From: PHILLIPS I (ivor.phillips(at)ntlworld.com)
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:00 PM
To: europa-list(at)matronics.com (europa-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Garmin pilot III required
Why not on a Europa ?
My original Pilot lll is still doing Stirling work after 15 years on mine,
far better than a ADF/DME for a fraction of the cost with a three hour battery
backup,
In answer to your question i think there was one for sale on the LAA website
a while back, not sure if its still available
regards
Ivor
G-IVER
On 12 September 2011 20:47, graeme bird <graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk (graeme(at)gdbmk.co.uk)> wrote:
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Richard Lamprey
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Garmin pilot III required |
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That has to be a record Ivor! I got 10 years out of my old Garmin 90 (Aviation GPS), which had the same internal battery issue. It may depend on the complexity of tracks and waypoints stored - mine used to be jammed to capacity. These days the internal memory seems to be hardwired.
Best
Richard, Kenya
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