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Paul A. Franz, P.E.



Joined: 02 Dec 2008
Posts: 280
Location: Bellevue WA

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: new member welcome Reply with quote

On Thu, September 22, 2011 1:11 pm, rtmarshall wrote:
Quote:
Mr. Buchanan, Thanks for the reply, The email did contain the type of aircraft(
4/1200)(its Status was obvious its flying) and the location high desert and my name.
I guess in trying to conserve band width I committed
some sort of crime. The request was quite friendly. I did not know that Matt Dralle
appointed moderators for the kitfox-list email. All the years I was on the rocket
list and the RV and the Cessna 180 list I never saw a moderator on the Email List.
Forums yes. Blue Skies. Bob

Bob, the origins of this mail list precede Matronics by many years. In fact the list
started on a text only list server prior to the existence of HTML browsers and even
HTML. When the public began to join in on the Internet and not just computer science
types many problems arose in USENET and in mail lists. Spam being just one of them.
Most people had only very slow modem connections, 2400 baud being hi-speed. In order
for the system to work, messages had to be kept short and anything not directly
related to the topic at hand had to be restricted. Arguing (flame wars), offensive
language had to be squelched immediately. This required an active moderator or two,
sharing the job.

Since this group is by nature a skilled DIY people, interested in a common hobby, some
minimums of introduction and identification standards evolved. We like to know who
we're talking to, where they live and what their project is at the minimum. There have
been a number of mail servers in the past that were always donated. The moderator most
often was the owner of the mail server but sometimes not. The last move was to
Matronics and that choice was made because it looked like for quality of service it
would have to go commercial either being supported with advertising or voluntary
funding. Matt's Matronics was already set up for voluntary support and that was where
the group preferred to move. The group had two admins at the time of the move and they
moved along with the list to Matronics. Subsequently both retired from the job and Guy
Buchanon volunteered to continue the task. His intervention is almost never required
and no one that I can recall has ever been booted from the KF List since it has been
served by Matronics. The group has changed a bit over time and it no longer has any
childish flame wars so Guy only reminds people gently when we don't recognize someone,
he also might give help for people wanting to post pictures but overall it's really a
pretty good group.

That said, I welcome you to the group and I'm absolutely certain that many others do too.

--
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618


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Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT
Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP
Bellevue WA
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redrocketrider



Joined: 13 May 2011
Posts: 67
Location: Nervino airport

PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:42 pm    Post subject: new member welcome Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply's.....................but, you will be adding one
more..................Bob's wife, me who is part owner and pilot.

Toodie and Bob Marshall
Nervino Airport O02 Beckwourth CA 4/1200 Flying.... for the fun of it!

Nervino has an Aerobatic Box for the performers of the Reno Air Races, each
year they come here to practice which is very enjoyable to watch as we live
across the highway. We are southwest of Reno/Stead Airport in CA.

We both are glider pilots, me from the 1950's and Bob the 1960's. lots of
time in gliders............Bob is a CFI II and glider Instructor, A&P, built
a Harmon Rocket which he just sold.
We flew with Dan Denny in the late '80's for a demo ride never thinking we'd
actually own a Kitfox. I tend to say more than Bob................~ : )
Oh, Bob is learning how to soar the Fox.......did pretty well today, cu's
everywhere. I get to try next time.

Thanks too for the background info on this list..............we were
previously on the Aeronca list having owned a Sedan..............now there's
a group that likes to talk!!

Hope to meet some of you one day. Toodie and Bob

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From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul(at)eucleides.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:10 PM
To: <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: new member welcome


<paul(at)eucleides.com>


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:27 am    Post subject: new member welcome Reply with quote

Ah yes. Good old Majodomo. started at CU by a Kitfoxer. I was one of
the first to sign up. My memory cells have the dates long forgotten ,
but seems like 1995?
Then the Major spread all over for various subjects. Back in the AOL
days because we new nothing about what to do.
Now days the forum boards have almost taken over. Matt keeps his
lists working just fine with his custom mods. I tried to fix my
lists, but the SW was to much to learn another language. So my lists
just struggled untill someone finally created a Forum replacement. A
good thing and allowed build time.
PaulW
=======
At 10:10 PM 9/22/2011, Paul A. Franz, P.E. wrote:
Quote:


On Thu, September 22, 2011 1:11 pm, rtmarshall wrote:
> Mr. Buchanan, Thanks for the reply, The email did contain the
type of aircraft(
> 4/1200)(its Status was obvious its flying) and the location high
desert and my name.
> I guess in trying to conserve band width I committed
> some sort of crime. The request was quite friendly. I did not
know that Matt Dralle
> appointed moderators for the kitfox-list email. All the years I
was on the rocket
> list and the RV and the Cessna 180 list I never saw a moderator
on the Email List.
> Forums yes. Blue Skies. Bob

Bob, the origins of this mail list precede Matronics by many years.
In fact the list
started on a text only list server prior to the existence of HTML
browsers and even
HTML. When the public began to join in on the Internet and not just
computer science
types many problems arose in USENET and in mail lists. Spam being
just one of them.
Most people had only very slow modem connections, 2400 baud being
hi-speed. In order
for the system to work, messages had to be kept short and anything
not directly
related to the topic at hand had to be restricted. Arguing (flame
wars), offensive
language had to be squelched immediately. This required an active
moderator or two,
sharing the job.

Since this group is by nature a skilled DIY people, interested in a
common hobby, some
minimums of introduction and identification standards evolved. We
like to know who
we're talking to, where they live and what their project is at the
minimum. There have
been a number of mail servers in the past that were always donated.
The moderator most
often was the owner of the mail server but sometimes not. The last move was to
Matronics and that choice was made because it looked like for
quality of service it
would have to go commercial either being supported with advertising
or voluntary
funding. Matt's Matronics was already set up for voluntary support
and that was where
the group preferred to move. The group had two admins at the time of
the move and they
moved along with the list to Matronics. Subsequently both retired
from the job and Guy
Buchanon volunteered to continue the task. His intervention is
almost never required
and no one that I can recall has ever been booted from the KF List
since it has been
served by Matronics. The group has changed a bit over time and it no
longer has any
childish flame wars so Guy only reminds people gently when we don't
recognize someone,
he also might give help for people wanting to post pictures but
overall it's really a
pretty good group.

That said, I welcome you to the group and I'm absolutely certain
that many others do too.

--
Paul A. Franz, P.E.
PAF Consulting Engineers
Office 425.440.9505
Cell 425.241.1618


- The Matronics Kitfox-List Email Forum -
 

Use the List Feature Navigator to browse the many List utilities available such as the Email Subscriptions page, Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, Photoshare, and much more:

http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
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redrocketrider



Joined: 13 May 2011
Posts: 67
Location: Nervino airport

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:19 am    Post subject: new member welcome Reply with quote

Be happy to! Might be a while, we are getting ready for winter even though the temps are in the very high 80's this week............ we know it will change soon. Bob is changing the oil in our tractor today for plowing snow, just hope it doesn't start in October like last year. Was a very long winter!

Toodie and Bob Marshall
Beckwourth, CA O02
4/1200
[quote] From: Patrick Reilly (patreilly43(at)gmail.com)
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 8:28 AM
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Re: new member welcome



Toodie, How about keeping us cluded in on the particulars of you and Bob's Kitfox soaring ventures.

Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuilt
Rockford, IL
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:39 PM, rtmarshall <rtav8or2(at)psln.com (rtav8or2(at)psln.com)> wrote:
Quote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "rtmarshall" <rtav8or2(at)psln.com (rtav8or2(at)psln.com)>

Thanks for the reply's.....................but, you will be adding one
more..................Bob's wife, me who is part owner and pilot.

Toodie and Bob Marshall
Nervino Airport O02 Beckwourth CA 4/1200 Flying.... for the fun of it!

Nervino has an Aerobatic Box for the performers of the Reno Air Races, each
year they come here to practice which is very enjoyable to watch as we live
across the highway. We are southwest of Reno/Stead Airport in CA.

We both are glider pilots, me from the 1950's and Bob the 1960's. lots of
time in gliders............Bob is a CFI II and glider Instructor, A&P, built
a Harmon Rocket which he just sold.
We flew with Dan Denny in the late '80's for a demo ride never thinking we'd
actually own a Kitfox. I tend to say more than Bob................~ : )
Oh, Bob is learning how to soar the Fox.......did pretty well today, cu's
everywhere. I get to try next time.

Thanks too for the background info on this list..............we were
previously on the Aeronca list having owned a Sedan..............now there's
a group that likes to talk!!

Hope to meet some of you one day. Toodie and Bob

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Paul A. Franz, P.E." <paul(at)eucleides.com (paul(at)eucleides.com)>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:10 PM
To: <kitfox-list(at)matronics.com (kitfox-list(at)matronics.com)>
Subject: Re: new member welcome

--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Paul A. Franz, P.E."
<paul(at)eucleides.com (paul(at)eucleides.com)>


ubscription,
www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
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Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford,IL
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