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rawheels

Joined: 09 Jul 2008
Posts: 89
Location: Westfield, IN

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:05 am Post subject: Looking for a 4-stroke

Does anyone have (or know of) a good 4-stroke engine for sale that I could install on my Kitfox IV.  Iâ€™ve been looking for a used HKS for a while, but my 582 was recently removed to replace a $40 trigger and is now estimated at $3400 for repair.  So, my 4-stroke search has become a little more important.  There was a Jabiru 2200 on barnstormers that I put an offer on about 5 minutes too late.  Iâ€™d prefer to have something light-weight like a HKS or Jabiru 2200.



Ryan

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Kitfox IV-1200
Indianapolis, IN

Guy Buchanan

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 1204
Location: Ramona, CA

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:36 am Post subject: Looking for a 4-stroke

On 10/3/2011 8:05 AM, rawheels wrote:

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		   Iâ€™ve been looking for a used HKS for a while, but my 582 was recently removed to replace a $40 trigger and is now estimated at $3400 for repair.

Hi Ryan,
	


Just wondering how they got you to $3400, since a complete rebuild is 

about $2500 and a nice used motor can be had for $2-3k. (I just sold 

mine for $1900.)



Guy Buchanan

Ramona, CA

Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded

Now a glider pilot, too.

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Guy Buchanan
Deceased K-IV 1200
A glider pilot too.

brubakermal(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:40 am Post subject: Looking for a 4-stroke

red gold  or Ron Davis AKA  rotax rick  can rebuild a crank 'lower bearings ,rods" complete with pistons and waterpump machining for ceramic seals for under 2k shiped  

 

  

 Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker 

Michigan Sport Pilot Repair 

LSRM-A, PPC, WS

Great Sails - Sailmaker 

for Ultralight & Light Sport

(989)513-3022



   

From: rawheels <rawheels(at)yahoo.com>

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 11:05 AM

Subject: Looking for a 4-stroke



--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "rawheels" <rawheels(at)yahoo.com (rawheels(at)yahoo.com)>



Does anyone have (or know of) a good 4-stroke engine for sale that I could install on my Kitfox IV.  IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve been  looking for a used HKS for a while, but my 582 was recently removed to replace a $40 trigger and is now estimated at $3400 for repair.  So, my 4-stroke search has become a little more important.  There was a Jabiru 2200 on barnstormers that I put an offer on about 5 minutes too late.  IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d prefer to have something light-weight like a HKS or Jabiru 2200.



Ryan



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Ryan Wheeler

Kitfox IV-1200

Indianapolis, IN





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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353880#353880



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rawheels

Joined: 09 Jul 2008
Posts: 89
Location: Westfield, IN

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a 4-stroke

I already had $400 into the engine to finally diagnose the problem as the trigger.  When we had the engine apart for that fix we noticed that the rear crank seal was leaking.  Since my intent was to find a 4-stroke and sell the 582, I decided to pay for the 150 hr seal/gasket replacement (+$920).  When the engine was torn down we found that the rotary valve shaft was almost split in two (+$320), and the crank was so bad that the PTO bearing fell off and a new bearing wouldn't stay on (+$1500).  At that point you might as well just add the pistons (+$200) and get the sign off for a full overhaul.



Interestingly, the engine had no corrosion, which was supposed to be the big scare against using AMSOIL.



So, I can spend money on this 582, buy another 582 off of barnstormers, or just use the money toward an engine that I actually want to fly behind.

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Indianapolis, IN

brubakermal(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:33 pm Post subject: Looking for a 4-stroke

everyone knows jerry at green sky  I belive ther was a HKS on the corsario

 

  that got twisted up at sun fun  frank porter of florida ownes that (954) 675 8436 frank  is also a plane broker in the byz     mal

 Malcolm & Jeanne Brubaker 

Michigan Sport Pilot Repair 

LSRM-A, PPC, WS

Great Sails - Sailmaker 

for Ultralight & Light Sport

(989)513-3022



   

From: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan(at)cox.net>

To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 11:33 AM

Subject: Re: Looking for a 4-stroke



--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <gebuchanan(at)cox.net (gebuchanan(at)cox.net)>



On 10/3/2011 8:05 AM, rawheels wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve been looking for a used HKS for a while, but my 582 was  recently removed to replace a $40 trigger and is now estimated at $3400 for repair.

Hi Ryan,
	


Just wondering how they got you to $3400, since a complete rebuild is about $2500 and a nice used motor can be had for $2-3k. (I just sold mine for $1900.)



Guy Buchanan

Ramona, CA

Kitfox IV-1200 / 912-S / Warp 3cs / 500 hrs. and grounded

Now a glider pilot, tnbsp;   - MATRONICS p;               -Matt Dralle, List Admi========

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dholly

Joined: 19 Dec 2006
Posts: 40
Location: Upstate NY

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for a 4-stroke

Ryan - 



I just rec'd some info from Aviation Products Inc regarding a new tail wheel. Included in the package rec'd was the 48pg. June 2011 issue of AVIATOR'S BULLETIN. There is a new-in-crate Jab 2200 listed in the classifieds. Contact info is Larry 541|:|258|:|5029 www.LebanAir.com. 



Note: I have no further knowledge or personal affiliation. Hope that helps, good luck!



-Doug

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-Kitfox III 582 Blue/C Grove Spring / Aerocet 1100 Amphibs
-Airdale Avid+ (project) TD / W.I.B. Gear

helili(at)chahtatushka.ne
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:01 pm Post subject: Looking for a 4-stroke

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		  From personal experience, be careful dealing with these folks!


	


John Hart

KF IV

Wilburton, OK



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helili(at)chahtatushka.ne
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject: Looking for a 4-stroke

I should have been clearer on my previous comment.  I WAS NOT referring to

Aviation Products Inc.



John Hart

KF IV

Wilburton, OK



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Mnflyer

Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 78

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for a 4-stroke

 	  helili(at)chahtatushka.ne wrote: 	
		  I should have been clearer on my previous comment.  I WAS NOT referring to

Aviation Products Inc.



John Hart

KF IV

Wilburton, OK



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So who are you refering to???

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GB
MNFlyer
Flying a HKS Kitfox III

helili(at)chahtatushka.ne
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: Looking for a 4-stroke

The other folks mentioned that are selling the "crated" engine



John Hart

KF IV

Wilburton OK



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Fox5flyer
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:41 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a 4-stroke

Am I the only one confused?

Deke

NE Michigan

S5 Soob



 	  helili(at)chahtatushka.ne wrote: 	
		  The other folks mentioned that are selling the "crated" engine



John Hart

KF IV

Wilburton OK



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helili(at)chahtatushka.ne
Guest

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:11 am Post subject: Looking for a 4-stroke

I guess.  I was trying to let folks know that they should be careful dealing

with Lebanaire, Lebanon, OR.  I've had some bad experiences dealing with

them in the past.



John Hart

KF IV

Wilburton, OK



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Mnflyer

Joined: 15 May 2006
Posts: 78

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for a 4-stroke

Hi Ryan, I converted my Model III to a HKS in 2006 and now have 460+ hrs flying it. Converting to the HKS was the best money I spent on the Kitfox to date, the engine starts instantly runs flawlessly burns only 3 gph of 91 Oct auto gas, has a 1000 hr TBO and the operating cost is 1/2 of what it cost to operate a Rotax 582.

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GB
MNFlyer
Flying a HKS Kitfox III

rawheels

Joined: 09 Jul 2008
Posts: 89
Location: Westfield, IN

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:50 am Post subject: Re: Looking for a 4-stroke

I've seen pics of your plane, and think it is the best HKS/Kitfox install out there. My grandfather had a HKS  on a flightstar and I'd really like to install one on my plane.  The problem is I can't afford new right now, and the only used ones that people want to sell are the s/n's 1-100 which were recalled and have no factory support.

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