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hotwheels

Joined: 01 Jun 2007
Posts: 240

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:33 am Post subject: insurance company homework

Time to start doing my homework... Is there some sort of listing that describes the various RV-10 insurance providers along with contact info?



Thanks,

Jay

rleffler

Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Posts: 680

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:39 am Post subject: Re: insurance company homework

 	  jayb wrote: 	
		  Time to start doing my homework... Is there some sort of listing that describes the various RV-10 insurance providers along with contact info? 	




Not really, you don't even need all the fingers on one hand to count the underwriters.   When I got my last renewal, there were basically three underwriters and Avemco.



Unlike other insurance, once an agent turns in your N# to the underwriter, they won't provide another quote to another agent.  They can, but the process is a PITA.



Find an agent the you trust and work with them to get the best deal from the various underwriters.  There are several that advertise and participate on VAF, and then there is Falcon (through EAA).  I've heard go comments on NationAir on VAF, but I don't have any experience with them.



I used to go through the EAA, but switched to a local agent for the RV-10.  I've found I got better service with somebody I could actually meet face to face.  The price was the same and I got better service.  I'd be more than happy to pass along my agent's contact info, if you want one that is located in the central Ohio area.



bob

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jennyrvlist(at)nationair.
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:50 pm Post subject: insurance company homework

Jay, 



My name is Jenny Estes and I run the Vans program here at NationAir. I would

be happy to help you. There are only 3 insurance companies that will insure

RV's during the test phase period and they will cover you from day one with

no restrictions. They will require that you get transition training in an

RV-10.   We have access to all the markets.  If you would like a quote

please give me a call at 877-648-8267. Regards, Jenny Estes NationAir

Aviation Insurance. 



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ricksked(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: insurance company homework

She has my endorsement. Great agent and same on the service. 



Rick



Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:46 PM, "Jenny" <jennyrvlist(at)nationair.com> wrote:



[quote] 

 

 Jay, 

 

 My name is Jenny Estes and I run the Vans program here at NationAir. I would

 be happy to help you. There are only 3 insurance companies that will insure

 RV's during the test phase period and they will cover you from day one with

 no restrictions. They will require that you get transition training in an

 RV-10.   We have access to all the markets.  If you would like a quote

 please give me a call at 877-648-8267. Regards, Jenny Estes NationAir

 Aviation Insurance. 

 

 --

jdriggs49(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:12 pm Post subject: insurance company homework

Lots of folks at Van's use Jenny. I'm well pleased with the service.

[quote] From: jennyrvlist(at)nationair.com

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: insurance company homework

 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:46:41 -0500

 --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jenny" <jennyrvlist(at)nationair.com>

 Jay, 

 My name is Jenny Estes and I run the Vans program here at NationAir. I would

 be happy to help you. There are only 3 insurance companies that will insure

 RV's during the test phase period and they will cover you from day one with

 no restrictions. They will require that you get transition training in an

 RV-10.   We have access to all the markets.  If you would like a quote

 please give me a call at 877-648-8267. Regards, Jenny Estes NationAir

 Aviation Insurance. 

 --

taildragon(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:37 pm Post subject: insurance company homework

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  What are some of the rates that she has quoted?

 [quote]   ---

jeff(at)westcottpress.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:39 pm Post subject: insurance company homework

count me as a fan (builders insurance)



Jeff Carpenter 40304

On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Jenny wrote:



[quote] 



 Jay,



 My name is Jenny Estes and I run the Vans program here at NationAir.  

 I would

 be happy to help you. There are only 3 insurance companies that will  

 insure

 RV's during the test phase period and they will cover you from day  

 one with

 no restrictions. They will require that you get transition training  

 in an

 RV-10.   We have access to all the markets.  If you would like a quote

 please give me a call at 877-648-8267. Regards, Jenny Estes NationAir

 Aviation Insurance.



 --

Bob Turner

Joined: 03 Jan 2009
Posts: 885
Location: Castro Valley, CA

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: insurance company homework

$2795 for $140K hull, $1M/$100K liability.



Pilot:  commercial/instrument/cfii

         2000+ TT/1000+ high performance/20 hr time in type (at the time).



This was end of July 2011.

_________________
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB

rene(at)felker.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:13 pm Post subject: insurance company homework

I am a fan….

 

Just from memory…

 

$2,800

 

$150,000 Hull

 

Discount for TAA

 

I had >700 hours last year with 150 in RV-10…..Commercial/Instrument ticket

 

I insure myself and my flight instructor..when I added him it did not affect my premium.

 

 

 

Rene' Felker

N423CF

801-721-6080



 

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Standley

Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:34 PM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: insurance company homework

 

What are some of the rates that she has quoted?

[quote]

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2872

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:16 pm Post subject: insurance company homework

And me....with Jenny since 2006.  Rates dropped most every year.

I pay less than Bob Turner quoted for more coverage now.  Time in type helps.

Tim



On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com> wrote:



[quote] 

 

 count me as a fan (builders insurance)

 

 Jeff Carpenter 40304

 On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Jenny wrote:

 

> 

> 

> Jay,

> 

> My name is Jenny Estes and I run the Vans program here at NationAir. I would

> be happy to help you. There are only 3 insurance companies that will insure

> RV's during the test phase period and they will cover you from day one with

> no restrictions. They will require that you get transition training in an

> RV-10.   We have access to all the markets.  If you would like a quote

> please give me a call at 877-648-8267. Regards, Jenny Estes NationAir

> Aviation Insurance.

> 

> --

bruce1hwjohnson(at)yahoo.
Guest

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:34 am Post subject: insurance company homework

I just renewed mine with AirPower Ins for A $175,000.00 hull and 1 Mil liability for $2295.00 their # is 602-628-2701 TJ is the Broker. I was with Falcon last time and paying over $3200. Nothing against Jenny, just don't know her

 



   

From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>

To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 3:13 PM

Subject: Re: insurance company homework



--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>



And me....with Jenny since 2006.  Rates dropped most every year.

I pay less than Bob  Turner quoted for more coverage now.  Time in type helps.

Tim



On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:



[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)>

 

 count me as a fan (builders insurance)

 

 Jeff Carpenter 40304

 On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Jenny wrote:

 

> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jenny" <jennyrvlist(at)nationair.com (jennyrvlist(at)nationair.com)>

> 

> Jay,

> 

> My name is Jenny Estes and I run the Vans program here at NationAir. I would

> be happy to help you. There are only 3 insurance companies that  will insure

> RV's during the test phase period and they will cover you from day one with

> no restrictions. They will require that you get transition training in an

> RV-10.  We have access to all the markets.  If you would like a quote

> please give me a call at 877-648-8267. Regards, Jenny Estes NationAir

> Aviation Insurance.

> 

> --

n223rv(at)wolflakeairport
Guest

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject: insurance company homework

I too went with Airpower insurance.  For me the rates were considerably cheaper...  I was with NationAir for many years (5+) with my RV-4, but their RV-10 rates were less competitive then what I got from Airpower.

Nothing against NationAir, they were great to work with and very responsive.

Your mileage may very

-Mike 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson(at)yahoo.com (bruce1hwjohnson(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:

[quote]I just renewed mine with AirPower Ins for A $175,000.00 hull and 1 Mil liability for $2295.00 their # is 602-628-2701 TJ is the Broker. I was with Falcon last time and paying over $3200. Nothing against Jenny, just don't know her

From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)>

To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)>

Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 3:13 PM

Subject: Re: insurance company homework

--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com (Tim(at)myrv10.com)>

And me....with Jenny since 2006.  Rates dropped most every year.

I pay less than Bob  Turner quoted for more coverage now.  Time in type helps.

Tim

On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)> wrote:

[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com (jeff(at)westcottpress.com)>

 count me as a fan (builders insurance)

 Jeff Carpenter 40304

 On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:46 PM, Jenny wrote:

> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jenny" <jennyrvlist(at)nationair.com (jennyrvlist(at)nationair.com)>

> 

> Jay,

> 

> My name is Jenny Estes and I run the Vans program here at NationAir. I would

> be happy to help you. There are only 3 insurance companies that  will insure

> RV's during the test phase period and they will cover you from day one with

> no restrictions. They will require that you get transition training in an

> RV-10.  We have access to all the markets.  If you would like a quote

> please give me a call at 877-648-8267. Regards, Jenny Estes NationAir

> Aviation Insurance.

> 

> --

tjyak50

Joined: 31 May 2007
Posts: 81
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: insurance company homework

Thanks for the referrals.  



I am Tom Johnson from Airpower Insurance based in Phoenix (KDVT).  I spend most of my time on the Yak-list of the Matronics forum since I own a Yak 50.



For new builders it is critical to cover the fly-off properly and there are a number of companies that do the fly-off well.  It is also important to have your AOPA & EAA numbers handy.  Also make sure you let me or your agent know if you have a moving-map GPS and altitude hold autopilot.   These things can help your insurance.



Lots of great choices for underwriters and brokers and several are here on this list.  Find a broker that you trust and can reach when you need to.



Glad to answer questions here or by phone / email.

Tom Johnson

tomjohnson(at)cox.net

tjyak50

Joined: 31 May 2007
Posts: 81
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: insurance company homework

By the way, lets address this issue of "Blocking" N-numbers.



For the vast majority this is a thing of the past.  Underwriters are computerized and can now handle the load of quoting the same airplane to multiple brokers.



Only one or 2 of the 6 or 7 markets that will write an RV on a daily basis still do the blocking.  I think they mostly do it to reduce the workload and keep us brokers from eating each other alive which we are prone to doing.



In the State of Arizona the State Law explicitly states the consumer has free choice of insurance producer.  Arizona does not allow "programs" which are exclusive to only one Broker or Agency.  So you really aren't ever locked in to anything.  



Get broker referrals from friends and fellow pilots.  Call that broker and just have an "off the record" conversation about airplanes and insurance.  Do that a few times and you will find the right person for you and your needs.



Tj

www.Airpowerinsurance.com

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