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esteuber(at)rochester.rr.
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 4:00 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn

Pat and all,

        I have a little info about the possible reason for the US 

Pacific commander not giving supply aid to the Brits during WW2... My 

father-in -law was in a B-24 squadron flying from North Africa and later 

Fougia, Italy . Whenever they tried to get any US supplied materials 

from the Brit supply system -including gasoline- the Brits would charge 

Uncle Sam many times over what it was worth. According to him ,the lions 

share of supply used by the Brits was US supplied at the time ...May 

have had something to do with Lend -Lease...I know it really ticked -off 

my father in law because his squadron had given freely to the Brits up 

till the time they had tried to get something in return. After that ,no 

more sharing.....I do know the Lend-Lease agreements were later 

"forgiven"....Seems to be simmering emotions on both sides of the 

Atlantic ! ........

        The most disturbing outcome of the war for me ...was how our two 

leaders gave "big Joe" the Polish nation to appease him after the war. 

..That was a disgrace for both England and the US....As you said , we 

owe the Poles a huge debt....The stealing of the "enigma" machine by the 

Poles is another important feat that is overlooked by history....

         Don't read any animosity directed at the British from this 

source....After having visited England this spring I have a different 

perspective from my previous one....Planning another trip..... at least 

my wife is !



                                                                         

                     Ed in Western NY

                       do not archive

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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
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Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:23 am Post subject: Best thing next to popcorn

possible reason for the US  Pacific commander not giving supply aid to the 

Brits during WW2.>>



Sorry this is going to the whole list but you didnt include your address. 

Other lists which I am on respond to `Reply` by sending the reply to the 

sender NOT to the whole list. If you want to include the whole list then it 

must be c.c A better system I think.



Hi Edward,



thats interesting. Not heard it before. Perhaps it was because we didn`t 

have much to start with. The Lend Lease programme was an incredible gesture 

but in spite of that there were niggles, on both sides no doubt. The one 

which usually comes up is the trade you made by letting us have 13 

superannuated destroyers that would only just float and took in return all 

our holdings, bases etc   in the Carribean. This at a time when we were 

losing thousands of tons of shipping ( and crews) to the U boats every 

month. Tough business.



You seem to have quite a sprinkling of Brit hating Commanders. The guy who 

controlled your coastal shipping refused to adopt the convoy system for 

months because we suggested it. There was no way any Brit was going to tell 

him how to run things.! This of course cost many lives (yours) which is a 

high price to pay just from spite.



Another great gesture was the Marshall Plan. This was set up to get Europe 

back on its feet at the end of the war. Unfortunately England which had been 

knocked about by bombers in the early days and by doodlebugs and V2`s 

towards the end of the war was excluded. The upshot was that we, with our 

production entirely centred on war material and with old repaired machinery 

and buildings left over from 6 years of war found ouselves in competition 

with brand new factories and machinery in Europe all supplied by the US. 

Made our recovery from the war long and hard. We still had sweet rationing 6 

years after the war and food rationing went on for several years after the 

end of hostilities.



I have a friend who was in Germany during the Allies advance. In the area in 

which he worked there was a rebellion of the German workers because the 

Russians were taking all the machinery from their factories.  My friend 

contacted his HQ for instructions and was told `Let the Russians have it. 

There are ships in Antwerp full of new machinery which we will be sending up 

shortly.` All very well but Birmingham and Manchester and Coventry which had 

been bombed to bits and still had machinery held together with baling wire, 

got nothing.



Glad you enjoyed your trip to the UK. If you are coming West on your next 

trip, Bath, Salisbury, Stonehenge, the Cotswolds area get in touch perhaps 

we can have a beer together..



Cheers



Pat 



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