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Tom Stephens



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: FireFly - Someday, I'd like one like this one! Reply with quote

Phil,

"and because I wanted to taste bugs again" Ahhh, the most important reason Wink

How are you going to mount the MZ201?

Tom


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: FireFly - Someday, I'd like one like this one! Reply with quote

Absolutely. You aren't really flying unless you're eatin' bugs.

I plan to mount the mz201 upright with the belt reduc down. The bolt pattern is 102 sts (side-to-side) x 202 ftb (front-to-back). I don't have the Rotax 447 and 503 sts dimensions, but ftb looks to be 143 and 153, respectively.

201 102mm x 202mm
447 ???mm x 143mm
503 ???mm x 153mm

I also really hope I'm able to hang the muffler down in between the aileron pushpull rods, similar to the way this gentlemen did. I don't know where I got this pic, but I really like the idea!
http://phactor.com/Kolb/DownExhaust.jpg

I've yet to determine where to align the reduc, but I'm certainly going to attempt a left-of-center PTO. Jack Hart goes into a great discussion on P-factor, trimming, and offset thrust by moving the PTO left-of-center by rotating the reduc to the 305, 270 and 235 degree positions (roughly 10:30, 9:00 and 7:30 positions), here:
http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly56.html
http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly129.html
http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly101.html

Jack, if you're listening, please chime in!

Phil



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Phil,

"and because I wanted to taste bugs again" Ahhh, the most important reason Wink

How are you going to mount the MZ201?

Tom

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: FireFly - Someday, I'd like one like this one! Reply with quote

Phil,

I am used to the MZ-34 with the mount in back. Sorry about that. I see that the 201 is "normal": http://www.compactengines.com/MZ-201-lite1.jpg

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: FireFly - Someday, I'd like one like this one! Reply with quote

olendorf wrote:
There is a lot of confusing adverse yaw discussion


If any of you feel incipient confusion, git yersef a copy of "Stick and Rudder", unless you have one already. GOOD explanations of alla this, as I recall. Not that you need it... I came into the discussion a few days late, sounds settled already.


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