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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: Engine order blues government bureaucracy causes price incr |
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Yah, I hear there are some good new lycomings for sale in Somalia and they are really cheap. I think it is because there is no government to stop the pirates who stole the engines off a freighter bound for Indonesia.
I can send an inquiry to these people if you are interested, but they only accept cash in person. I think it is a good deal and should be safe.
From: dlm34077(at)q.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine order blues
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:16:54 -0700
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Actually it is because of little or no competition resulting from a government that “certifies” (controls, specifies, approves) everything aviation except some experimental. The bureaucrats cost money and we have them in spades.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine order blues
.... and greed because there are a thousand RV-10's in early kit stages that will mostly be buying new D4A5's.
The dollars has been sideways almost on the nose for the past 12 months. Compare Nov 2010 to Nov 2011.
[url=http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/currency]http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/currency[/url]
We're really suffering from lack of competition and lycoming's greed. I did hear rumors at OSH last year that ECI was very close to having their clone D4A5 ready for market. They see the the same 1000+ kits out there for the D4A5. Having ECI in the game would be the best thing that could happen to those thousand-plus buyers.
Phil
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Tony Woods <[url=mailto:twoods(at)sesa.af]twoods(at)sesa.af[/url]> wrote:
The US dollar has dropped sharply in value in the last year guys. Anything imported into the USA to build engines now costs a lot more...
Tony Woods
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dlm34077(at)q.com Guest
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:04 am Post subject: Engine order blues government bureaucracy causes price incr |
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I would not be interested in the Somali engines as I already purchased mine back when the dollar was worth more. Perhaps the bureaucrats in the PRC could help builders with the alternative engine to be supplied by the Canadian company who collected funds and never delivered. Or perhaps the US company who sold an alternative with “special” parts that has left that business to supply another alternative. Pray for the orphans of OSH.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:42 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Engine order blues government bureaucracy causes price increase!
Yah, I hear there are some good new lycomings for sale in Somalia and they are really cheap. I think it is because there is no government to stop the pirates who stole the engines off a freighter bound for Indonesia.
I can send an inquiry to these people if you are interested, but they only accept cash in person. I think it is a good deal and should be safe.
From: dlm34077(at)q.com
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Engine order blues
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:16:54 -0700
Actually it is because of little or no competition resulting from a government that “certifies” (controls, specifies, approves) everything aviation except some experimental. The bureaucrats cost money and we have them in spades.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Engine order blues
.... and greed because there are a thousand RV-10's in early kit stages that will mostly be buying new D4A5's.
The dollars has been sideways almost on the nose for the past 12 months. Compare Nov 2010 to Nov 2011.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/currency
We're really suffering from lack of competition and lycoming's greed. I did hear rumors at OSH last year that ECI was very close to having their clone D4A5 ready for market. They see the the same 1000+ kits out there for the D4A5. Having ECI in the game would be the best thing that could happen to those thousand-plus buyers.
Phil
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Tony Woods <twoods(at)sesa.af (twoods(at)sesa.af)> wrote:
The US dollar has dropped sharply in value in the last year guys. Anything imported into the USA to build engines now costs a lot more...
Tony Woods
Sent from my phone
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:26 am Post subject: Engine order blues government bureaucracy causes price incr |
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Maybe this guy could build a good engine at a reasonable price?
http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/
David Leikam
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Flying
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I would not be interested in the Somali engines as I already purchased mine back when the dollar was worth more. Perhaps the bureaucrats in the PRC could help builders with the alternative engine to be supplied by the Canadian company who collected funds and never delivered. Or perhaps the US company who sold an alternative with “special” parts that has left that business to supply another alternative. Pray for the orphans of OSH.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:42 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Engine order blues government bureaucracy causes price increase!
Yah, I hear there are some good new lycomings for sale in Somalia and they are really cheap. I think it is because there is no government to stop the pirates who stole the engines off a freighter bound for Indonesia.
I can send an inquiry to these people if you are interested, but they only accept cash in person. I think it is a good deal and should be safe.
From: dlm34077(at)q.com (dlm34077(at)q.com)
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: RE: Engine order blues
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:16:54 -0700
Actually it is because of little or no competition resulting from a government that “certifies” (controls, specifies, approves) everything aviation except some experimental. The bureaucrats cost money and we have them in spades.
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip Perry
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:17 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com (rv10-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Engine order blues
.... and greed because there are a thousand RV-10's in early kit stages that will mostly be buying new D4A5's.
The dollars has been sideways almost on the nose for the past 12 months. Compare Nov 2010 to Nov 2011.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/currency
We're really suffering from lack of competition and lycoming's greed. I did hear rumors at OSH last year that ECI was very close to having their clone D4A5 ready for market. They see the the same 1000+ kits out there for the D4A5. Having ECI in the game would be the best thing that could happen to those thousand-plus buyers.
Phil
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:53 PM, Tony Woods <twoods(at)sesa.af (twoods(at)sesa.af)> wrote:
The US dollar has dropped sharply in value in the last year guys. Anything imported into the USA to build engines now costs a lot more...
Tony Woods
Sent from my phone
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