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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:07 am Post subject: Sweet camera deal |
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I own the Drift HD 170 that I got for a good deal at $199 delivered (was $299 at one point) so that BH deal looks pretty sweet. I settled on this unit after being disappointed with my HD Point & Shoot which do great for family video but not so good for action video. I chose this unit specifically because it has an audio input so I can easily input the comm audio with the video plus I thought the remote would be really beneficial for avoiding 80% video you don’t want to get the place where you want to film. Unfortunately the remote has a limited range and it is difficult to know if you are recording remotely unless you get this optional LED light attachment which then means you have this additional wire hanging out the back plus an additional cap etc…
The camera is larger than you may expect but it does give you a lot of options for mounting because it has a standard camera thread base. I added the RAM ball to that then use several different RAM mounting devices depending on where I want the camera positioned. Sorry I no longer have the photo of my wing mount.
Overall I am pleased especially for the price. I do plan on buying some version of the Contour at some point as that also seems like a really nice set up. I will use the Drift in the cockpit for the audio and the Contour mounted externally. I am not a fan of the GoPro form factor but they too seem to take nice images.
Here is my first attempt at flying with the camera mounted to the end of my wing. I will correct the constant wobble apparent from this first attempt. Also note the prop from this angle is distorted. But so is the pilot.
Oh, one last thing, this video is MUCH better with the music but YouTube removed the sound due to royalty restrictions so feel free to hum while the video is playing.…
http://youtu.be/Ku9ASFiNtYA?hd=1
Robin
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Martin Hone
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:53 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Sweet camera deal
Hey Matt,
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I reckon you cannot go past the Drift HD170 Stealth at $159.00
Similar specs and comes with remote control.....http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/751813-REG/Drift_SHD170_HD170_Stealth_Action_Camera.html
Merry Xmas
Martin
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:26 am Post subject: Sweet camera deal |
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Robin:
I want to use the HD camera to record instruments in the panel. I have 2 questions:
1) Did you try hanging the Drift from the canopy between the seats looking forward (I have a 6A)? If so, were the instruments readable in the video?
2) What is the field of view of the camera? Is it very wide, comparable to the GoPro's 130 deg. ? Or is it more typical of most cameras - that is - in the 40 - 50 deg. range?
I was looking at the Koday Zx3. Only 90$ and has image stabilization. The narrower field with makes it more likely to make instruments readable at HD resolution.Â
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Robin Marks <robin(at)painttheweb.com (robin(at)painttheweb.com)> wrote:
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I own the Drift HD 170 that I got for a good deal at $199 delivered (was $299 at one point) so that BH deal looks pretty sweet. I settled on this unit after being disappointed with my HD Point & Shoot which do great for family video but not so good for action video. I chose this unit specifically because it has an audio input so I can easily input the comm audio with the video plus I thought the remote would be really beneficial for avoiding 80% video you don’t want to get the place where you want to film. Unfortunately the remote has a limited range and it is difficult to know if you are recording remotely unless you get this optional LED light attachment which then means you have this additional wire hanging out the back plus an additional cap etc…
The camera is larger than you may expect but it does give you a lot of options for mounting because it has a standard camera thread base. I added the RAM ball to that then use several different RAM mounting devices depending on where I want the camera positioned. Sorry I no longer have the photo of my wing mount.
Overall I am pleased especially for the price. I do plan on buying some version of the Contour at some point as that also seems like a really nice set up. I will use the Drift in the cockpit for the audio and the Contour mounted externally. I am not a fan of the GoPro form factor but they too seem to take nice images.
Here is my first attempt at flying with the camera mounted to the end of my wing. I will correct the constant wobble apparent from this first attempt. Also note the prop from this angle is distorted. But so is the pilot.
Oh, one last thing, this video is MUCH better with the music but YouTube removed the sound due to royalty restrictions so feel free to hum while the video is playing.…
Â
http://youtu.be/Ku9ASFiNtYA?hd=1
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:15 am Post subject: Sweet camera deal |
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Robin,
Funny you should say that between the Drift and Contour...
After getting the Contour+, it does a great job but
my personal thought was I will buy a drift to go OUTSIDE
and leave the Contour+ inside. The Contour+ has audio
and GPS and everything, and does a good job inside, plus
it has the rotating lens and the ability to get rid of the
prop arc. The drift seems more aerodynamically suited for
outside, and seems to be a great one for mounting outside
with it's built in screw hole. So you're looking at it
the exact opposite as I am.
The wide field of view makes full-panel recording of
instruments almost useless. You'd have to get the
camera pretty close. Might work great to record one or
two instruments though.
Tim
On 12/22/2011 12:02 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
| Quote: | I own the Drift HD 170 that I got for a good deal at $199 delivered (was
$299 at one point) so that BH deal looks pretty sweet. I settled on this
unit after being disappointed with my HD Point & Shoot which do great
for family video but not so good for action video. I chose this unit
specifically because it has an audio input so I can easily input the
comm audio with the video plus I thought the remote would be really
beneficial for avoiding 80% video you don’t want to get the place where
you want to film. Unfortunately the remote has a limited range and it is
difficult to know if you are recording remotely unless you get this
optional LED light attachment which then means you have this additional
wire hanging out the back plus an additional cap etc…
The camera is larger than you may expect but it does give you a lot of
options for mounting because it has a standard camera thread base. I
added the RAM ball to that then use several different RAM mounting
devices depending on where I want the camera positioned. Sorry I no
longer have the photo of my wing mount.
Overall I am pleased especially for the price. I do plan on buying some
version of the Contour at some point as that also seems like a really
nice set up. I will use the Drift in the cockpit for the audio and the
Contour mounted externally. I am not a fan of the GoPro form factor but
they too seem to take nice images.
Here is my first attempt at flying with the camera mounted to the end of
my wing. I will correct the constant wobble apparent from this first
attempt. Also note the prop from this angle is distorted. But so is the
pilot.
Oh, one last thing, this video is MUCH better with the music but YouTube
removed the sound due to royalty restrictions so feel free to hum while
the video is playing.…
http://youtu.be/Ku9ASFiNtYA?hd=1
Robin
*From:*owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Hone
*Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:53 AM
*To:* rv-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* Sweet camera deal
Hey Matt,
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I reckon you cannot go past the Drift
HD170 Stealth at $159.00
Similar specs and comes with remote
control.....http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/751813-REG/Drift_SHD170_HD170_Stealth_Action_Camera.html
Merry Xmas
Martin
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:25 pm Post subject: Sweet camera deal |
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Here is a video shot with the HD170 mounted to the canopy with a suction mount. Bump it up to HD to watch. The instruments are readable in some light conditions. http://youtu.be/zA_PqkgTALE
In a message dated 12/22/2011 1:16:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, Tim(at)MyRV10.com writes:
| Quote: | --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>
Robin,
Funny you should say that between the Drift and Contour...
After getting the Contour+, it does a great job but
my personal thought was I will buy a drift to go OUTSIDE
and leave the Contour+ inside. The Contour+ has audio
and GPS and everything, and does a good job inside, plus
it has the rotating lens and the ability to get rid of the
prop arc. The drift seems more aerodynamically suited for
outside, and seems to be a great one for mounting outside
with it's built in screw hole. So you're looking at it
the exact opposite as I am.
The wide field of view makes full-panel recording of
instruments almost useless. You'd have to get the
camera pretty close. Might work great to record one or
two instruments though.
Tim
On 12/22/2011 12:02 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
| Quote: | I own the Drift HD 170 that I got for a good deal at $199 delivered (was
$299 at one point) so that BH deal looks pretty sweet. I settled on this
unit after being disappointed with my HD Point & Shoot which do great
for family video but not so good for action video. I chose this unit
specifically because it has an audio input so I can easily input the
comm audio with the video plus I thought the remote would be really
beneficial for avoiding 80% video you don’t want to get the place where
you want to film. Unfortunately the remote has a limited range and it is
difficult to know if you are recording remotely unless you get this
optional LED light attachment which then means you have this additional
wire hanging out the back plus an additional cap etc…
The camera is larger than you may expect but it does give you a lot of
options for mounting because it has a standard camera thread base. I
added the RAM ball to that then use several different RAM mounting
devices depending on where I want the camera positioned. Sorry I no
longer have the photo of my wing mount.
Overall I am pleased especially for the price. I do plan on buying some
version of the Contour at some point as that also seems like a really
nice set up. I will use the Drift in the cockpit for the audio and the
Contour mounted externally. I am not a fan of the GoPro form factor but
they too seem to take nice images.
Here is my first attempt at flying with the camera mounted to the end of
my wing. I will correct the constant wobble apparent from this first
attempt. Also note the prop from this angle is distorted. But so is the
pilot.
Oh, one last thing, this video is MUCH better with the music but YouTube
removed the sound due to royalty restrictions so feel free to hum while
the video is playing.…
http://youtu.be/Ku9ASFiNtYA?hd=1
Robin
*From:*owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Hone
*Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:53 AM
*To:* rv-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* Sweet camera deal
Hey Matt,
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I reckon you cannot go past the Drift
HD170 Stealth at $159.00
Similar specs and comes with remote
control.....http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/751813-REG/Drift_SHD170_HD170_Stealth_Action_Camera.html
Merry Xmas
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject: Sweet camera deal |
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| Quote: | | The drift in nor aerodynamic when turned sideways. And I didn't know the contour had audio. My drift audio is ideal for my 8A set up so that was my thinking. If u want to use my drift for a month or so let me know and then u can use side by side.RobinSent from my Android Phone |
Tim Olson wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)myrv10.com>
Robin,
Funny you should say that between the Drift and Contour...
After getting the Contour+, it does a great job but
my personal thought was I will buy a drift to go OUTSIDE
and leave the Contour+ inside. The Contour+ has audio
and GPS and everything, and does a good job inside, plus
it has the rotating lens and the ability to get rid of the
prop arc. The drift seems more aerodynamically suited for
outside, and seems to be a great one for mounting outside
with it's built in screw hole. So you're looking at it
the exact opposite as I am.
The wide field of view makes full-panel recording of
instruments almost useless. You'd have to get the
camera pretty close. Might work great to record one or
two instruments though.
Tim
On 12/22/2011 12:02 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> I own the Drift HD 170 that I got for a good deal at $199 delivered (was
> $299 at one point) so that BH deal looks pretty sweet. I settled on this
> unit after being disappointed with my HD Point & Shoot which do great
> for family video but not so good for action video. I chose this unit
> specifically because it has an audio input so I can easily input the
> comm audio with the video plus I thought the remote would be really
> beneficial for avoiding 80% video you don’t want to get the place where
> you want to film. Unfortunately the remote has a limited range and it is
> difficult to know if you are recording remotely unless you get this
> optional LED light attachment which then means you have this additional
> wire hanging out the back plus an additional cap etc…
>
> The camera is larger than you may expect but it does give you a lot of
> options for mounting because it has a standard camera thread base. I
> added the RAM ball to that then use several different RAM mounting
> devices depending on where I want the camera positioned. Sorry I no
> longer have the photo of my wing mount.
>
> Overall I am pleased especially for the price. I do plan on buying some
> version of the Contour at some point as that also seems like a really
> nice set up. I will use the Drift in the cockpit for the audio and the
> Contour mounted externally. I am not a fan of the GoPro form factor but
> they too seem to take nice images.
>
> Here is my first attempt at flying with the camera mounted to the end of
> my wing. I will correct the constant wobble apparent from this first
> attempt. Also note the prop from this angle is distorted. But so is the
> pilot.
>
> Oh, one last thing, this video is MUCH better with the music but YouTube
> removed the sound due to royalty restrictions so feel free to hum while
> the video is playing.…
>
> http://youtu.be/Ku9ASFiNtYA?hd=1
>
> Robin
>
> *From:*owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] *On Behalf Of *Martin Hone
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:53 AM
> *To:* rv-list(at)matronics.com
> *Subject:* Sweet camera deal
>
> Hey Matt,
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade, but I reckon you cannot go past the Drift
> HD170 Stealth at $159.00
>
> Similar specs and comes with remote
> control.....http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/751813-REG/Drift_SHD170_HD170_Stealth_Action_Camera.html
>
> Merry Xmas
>
> Martin
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Tim Olson
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:32 pm Post subject: Sweet camera deal |
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Sorry, I should have mentioned EFIS, not just instruments. If you're
that far back trying to view an EFIS screen with an HD camera, it just
isn't worth doing. In my use, I'd want to be able to video the screen
as I fly an approach, for instance...and show the approach on the
EFIS with the view out the window. It's just not practical with one
camera.
In your example, with round gauges, yes, you can make out your
altitude and airspeed a bit and see some of those things.
Tim
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On 12/22/2011 3:20 PM, RV4PatA(at)aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | Here is a video shot with the HD170 mounted to the canopy with a suction
mount. Bump it up to HD to watch. The instruments are readable in some
light conditions. http://youtu.be/zA_PqkgTALE
In a message dated 12/22/2011 1:16:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Tim(at)MyRV10.com writes:
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:23 pm Post subject: Sweet camera deal |
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Quoting thomas sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com>:
| Quote: | Robin:
I want to use the HD camera to record instruments in the panel. I have 2
questions:
1) Did you try hanging the Drift from the canopy between the seats looking
forward (I have a 6A)? If so, were the instruments readable in the video?
2) What is the field of view of the camera? Is it very wide, comparable to
the GoPro's 130 deg. ? Or is it more typical of most cameras - that is - in
the 40 - 50 deg. range?
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This isn't in an RV, but in a Starduster Too, with an Drift HD 170 mounted
about where the passenger's head would go. Can read the instruments better
than in the previously posted RV-4 video, and also they are much easier to
read in the video from the camera vs. the youtube compression.
http://youtu.be/lmTrlFAMcJs
Not an intersting video otherwise, but does show the instruments well.
Audio is just engine noise, hadn't gotten the cables to hook it up to the
intercom when I took this, then one of the other partners had a prop strike,
so haven't had a chance to test that feature yet.
Field of view is 170 degrees. I too am hoping to use this to record
my test flights in the RV, using the intercom to take notes.
Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft(at)xmission.com)
RV-8A 80091 Mounting engine
1/4 Starduster Too N23UT Down for maintence.
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Doug Gray
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject: Sweet camera deal |
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Brian,
Nice video!
I do think you need to do some serious maintenance on the pitot/static system...
Doug Gray
On 23/12/2011, at 4:18 PM, bifft(at)xmission.com wrote:
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Quoting thomas sargent <sarg314(at)gmail.com>:
> Robin:
> I want to use the HD camera to record instruments in the panel. I have 2
> questions:
>
> 1) Did you try hanging the Drift from the canopy between the seats looking
> forward (I have a 6A)? If so, were the instruments readable in the video?
>
> 2) What is the field of view of the camera? Is it very wide, comparable to
> the GoPro's 130 deg. ? Or is it more typical of most cameras - that is - in
> the 40 - 50 deg. range?
This isn't in an RV, but in a Starduster Too, with an Drift HD 170 mounted
about where the passenger's head would go. Can read the instruments better
than in the previously posted RV-4 video, and also they are much easier to
read in the video from the camera vs. the youtube compression.
http://youtu.be/lmTrlFAMcJs
Not an intersting video otherwise, but does show the instruments well.
Audio is just engine noise, hadn't gotten the cables to hook it up to the
intercom when I took this, then one of the other partners had a prop strike,
so haven't had a chance to test that feature yet.
Field of view is 170 degrees. I too am hoping to use this to record
my test flights in the RV, using the intercom to take notes.
Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft(at)xmission.com)
RV-8A 80091 Mounting engine
1/4 Starduster Too N23UT Down for maintence.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: Sweet camera deal |
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Thomas,
Properly mounted even at an angle in HD mode it can do an excellent at tracking your instruments.
As far as the field of view it depends on what recording mode you are in. The website states:
Recording Angles: 127° in 1080p, 170° in 720p & WVGA
You can get pretty close to the instruments so when you are playing back in HD and you pause at any point to get a really sharp image to review the detail.
My $100 point & shoot films 1080P video and may also do a good job for your task. Where it falls short is things like the goofy looking prop and being too close to the display preventing a sharp image.
Here is a hand held video from my Sony Bloggie that shows you could use something like this but you will need to be about another 12 inches back for focusing. Also note this is a lower light situation which may have had an impact on the clarity.
http://youtu.be/4aJt4_Chswo?hd=1
Robin
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of thomas sargent
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:24 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Sweet camera deal
Robin:
I want to use the HD camera to record instruments in the panel. I have 2 questions:
1) Did you try hanging the Drift from the canopy between the seats looking forward (I have a 6A)? If so, were the instruments readable in the video?
2) What is the field of view of the camera? Is it very wide, comparable to the GoPro's 130 deg. ? Or is it more typical of most cameras - that is - in the 40 - 50 deg. range?
I was looking at the Koday Zx3. Only 90$ and has image stabilization. The narrower field with makes it more likely to make instruments readable at HD resolution.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Robin Marks <robin(at)painttheweb.com (robin(at)painttheweb.com)> wrote:
I own the Drift HD 170 that I got for a good deal at $199 delivered (was $299 at one point) so that BH deal looks pretty sweet. I settled on this unit after being disappointed with my HD Point & Shoot which do great for family video but not so good for action video. I chose this unit specifically because it has an audio input so I can easily input the comm audio with the video plus I thought the remote would be really beneficial for avoiding 80% video you don’t want to get the place where you want to film. Unfortunately the remote has a limited range and it is difficult to know if you are recording remotely unless you get this optional LED light attachment which then means you have this additional wire hanging out the back plus an additional cap etc…
The camera is larger than you may expect but it does give you a lot of options for mounting because it has a standard camera thread base. I added the RAM ball to that then use several different RAM mounting devices depending on where I want the camera positioned. Sorry I no longer have the photo of my wing mount.
Overall I am pleased especially for the price. I do plan on buying some version of the Contour at some point as that also seems like a really nice set up. I will use the Drift in the cockpit for the audio and the Contour mounted externally. I am not a fan of the GoPro form factor but they too seem to take nice images.
Here is my first attempt at flying with the camera mounted to the end of my wing. I will correct the constant wobble apparent from this first attempt. Also note the prop from this angle is distorted. But so is the pilot.
Oh, one last thing, this video is MUCH better with the music but YouTube removed the sound due to royalty restrictions so feel free to hum while the video is playing.…
http://youtu.be/Ku9ASFiNtYA?hd=1
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